Godless European traffic lights

[Lootifer]

You are a disappointment to punk

[GoranZ]

Goranz, did Putin let you out of the pet box again?

I never was in any box... BTW was your brain washed by CIA?

Warmonger, oneyed, goranz -- the trifecta!

--Andy

Andy "working" his friend

Well, that was interesting.
warmonger flipping out at Andy for posting slightly trolling gifs that don't actually cause any harm.
mrs. wdk siding with the more open minded Western Europeans than the Eastern ones, again.

According to what you made that "open minded" comparison? Most people consider you as a retard unfit to make anything.

"Oneeyed" learning the "hard" way that in the West, "one eyed" is a euphemism for penis, and also showing his disdain for homosexuals that seems apparent to everyone but him.

How is Oneeyed naming him self is his job, not yours. You would have known that if you weren't an idiot.

Goranz piping in with more Russian propaganda than Russia's PBS (Putin Broadcasting System).

Where did you saw Putin or Russia in my post you retard?

And Andy posting various gifs simply making light of the conversation in general.

If you haven't noticed but andy is still "working" his friend

For everyone that are cheering for gay people... If you want them so bad take them in your houses, and dont tell others what to do.

[muy_thaiguy]

The sad part? I wasn't even trying.

According to what you made that "open minded" comparison? Most people consider you as a retard unfit to make anything.

If I have to spell it out for you, you should reconsider what you type before you post.

How is Oneeyed naming him self is his job, not yours. You would have known that if you weren't an idiot.

And irony is apparently not part of Russian indoctrination, otherwise you would have understood it.

Where did you saw Putin or Russia in my post you retard?

You're just towing the Russian line of homophobia. Quite simple to understand, all things considered.

If you haven't noticed but andy is still "working" his friend

You're just SO hostile, and for incredibly ludicrous reasons. Particularly to those that don't fall into lockstep with you.

For everyone that are cheering for gay people... If you want them so bad take them in your houses, and dont tell others what to do.

So, when you tell gay people to stop being gay and they shouldn't have the same rights as heterosexuals, isn't that telling them what to do? And you don't see the hypocrisy?

[betiko]

Lol muy thai, don't bother with this guy.

Hey goran, do you dare saying all this kind of shit you grant us with in OT in your clan forum? I have problems thinking your clanmates would have no problem with all the hate you are puking out on your keyboard each time your name shows up in a thread.
You have less class than Melissa McCarthy in an Oscar Mayer jumpsuit Goran.

[warmonger1981]

I was hoping I had the least amount of class.

[GoranZ]

How is Oneeyed naming him self is his job, not yours. You would have known that if you weren't an idiot.

And irony is apparently not part of Russian indoctrination, otherwise you would have understood it.

What can I say... I cant understand idiots like you, but I'm not really trying

Where did you saw Putin or Russia in my post you retard?

You're just towing the Russian line of homophobia. Quite simple to understand, all things considered.

So you want me to do what you want? No wonder I consider you as retard.

If you haven't noticed but andy is still "working" his friend

You're just SO hostile, and for incredibly ludicrous reasons. Particularly to those that don't fall into lockstep with you.

You are trying to tell me what I should do, and you are surprised that I'm hostile... What were you expecting, flowers?
I'm not a French(same reply to betiko's post)... we all know how they were cheering Hitler in Paris.

For everyone that are cheering for gay people... If you want them so bad take them in your houses, and dont tell others what to do.

So, when you tell gay people to stop being gay and they shouldn't have the same rights as heterosexuals, isn't that telling them what to do? And you don't see the hypocrisy?

What a moron... I'm not telling anyone what to do. But I dont like people to tell me what I should do also. So once again... My house my rules, you dont like it, get a f*ck out. If you like gay people take them in your house.

Hey goran, do you dare saying all this kind of shit you grant us with in OT in your clan forum? I have problems thinking your clanmates would have no problem with all the hate you are puking out on your keyboard each time your name shows up in a thread.
You have less class than Melissa McCarthy in an Oscar Mayer jumpsuit Goran.

You can think what ever you want... that's your right, I have no desire to take your rights.
But you are thinking with your French brain
*just so everyone can know how accurate you are

[muy_thaiguy]

What can I say... I cant understand idiots like you, but I'm not really trying

When one does not understand something as simple as "irony", it stands to reason that it is not the fault of the person pointing out the irony, but rather the one that doesn't understand it. Willingly at that.

So you want me to do what you want? No wonder I consider you as retard.

Never said that. Merely mocking you, with subtlety (too much it seems) for not thinking for yourself and merely repeating propaganda from your beloved Mother Russia.

You are trying to tell me what I should do, and you are surprised that I'm hostile... What were you expecting, flowers?

Where have I told you what to do? I'll give some advice; chill out. So much hostility does nothing to benefit anyone.

I'm not a French(same reply to betiko's post)... we all know how they were cheering Hitler in Paris.

No, never said you were, but many of your ancestors in ancient times (if you really are from Macedonia) were at least bisexual. Relevancy? About as much as your WWII comment.

What a moron... I'm not telling anyone what to do.

Though if anyone disagrees with you, you throw a tantrum, like calling other people names.

But I dont like people to tell me what I should do also.

Unless it your beloved Mother Russia?

So once again... My house my rules, you dont like it, get a f*ck out. If you like gay people take them in your house.

Who said anything about your house? Shouldn't homosexuals have the same rights as you within their own homes and in public like everyone else? Or are you going to continue that line of hypocrisy that only serves to dig you deeper into that hole of yours?

[AndyDufresne]

Luxembourg is next. Their Prime Minister man just married another man!?!?!


--Andy

[riskllama]

wow! how avant garde...

[JBlombier]

I'm afraid my earlier comment didn't have any effect. It's off-topics, of course it didn't, silly me.

It's just another thread that has turned very quickly into a debate between the homophobic crowd and the more tolerant lads. Come one, guys. Is it really that hard to believe that there is no way in hell you can convince the GoranZ's of this world to approve with our, supposedly, more civilized view on the world? You've all had your fair share of time on the internet. I admire the input you're giving, but it's useless. Completely.

GoranZ, I don't agree with you. I can tell you lots of true stories about great homosexual people that have done more to better the world than you and I have and ever will. But with your attitude, I know my (sometimes valid) points will be diminished by your view on the matter. So can we agree to disagree? Can you please leave this subject be and join other topics? I guess not, but it would be great if you did.

If I would write what I really think about someone with this kind of cultural inheretance, things might get ugly. But at the end of the day, we're all behind our computers. He can't harm me in any way possible. So I'll just go to my group of friends today (including 2 homos; which is how we call them here, with no insult at all included, because we think it's normal) and we're gonna have some beers and more than a few good laughs. And I won't think about this topic. Until I look at this tomorrow and realize that there are people in this world who don't want my 2 mates to have the same life I do. Who should be ashamed of what they are and aren't welcome in some houses (you know which) in Europe, because of their sexuality.

At that moment, I'm glad that those guys who I've known my entire life, live here and not in your country.

- JB

PS. Hurray for Luxembourg

[Oneyed]

Goran, there is no way to have normal debate with trolls. they have full mouth of tolerance, but when somebody says something against their opinion they attack him. this is "democracy".
I said that there is too much homo propaganda and that homosexuality is official part of politics. and that I am against adoption of children by homosexuals. and then become absurd attacks on me by liberals (and democrats)...

Andy Dufresne is not possible to write any relevant post, just stupid pictures.
Betiko, I am proud that I am not from "tolerant" western europe. so tolerant that support fascizm in Ukraine. bravo.
notyou2, I have no problem with my sexuality. but your signature shows that you have any mental problems.
muy_thaiguy, at the first take care about your avatar which you was not able to write correct. at the second you just show your little knowledge almost in everything (not just in history).
JBlombier, Hurray for Luxembourg? hurray for Macedonia where US with albanian UCK (KLA) try to start next war in Balkan.

so you democratic liberals be happy with homosexual rights (and there is close time when also pedophiles will want their rights), be happy with drugs, with corporations which destroy our earth and prey us, be happy with fascizm (in Ukraine, Bosnia and Baltics states), be happy with chaos and wars in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Jemen, Ukraine. this is your world.

Oneyed

[mrswdk]

there is close time when also pedophiles will want their rights

And all the children who want to have sex but are currently forbidden to by Big Brother.

be happy with drugs

Portugal decriminalized all drugs and both drug use and drug-related crime went down.

[betiko]

Goran, there is no way to have normal debate with trolls. they have full mouth of tolerance, but when somebody says something against their opinion they attack him. this is "democracy".
I said that there is too much homo propaganda and that homosexuality is official part of politics. and that I am against adoption of children by homosexuals. and then become absurd attacks on me by liberals (and democrats)...

Andy Dufresne is not possible to write any relevant post, just stupid pictures.
Betiko, I am proud that I am not from "tolerant" western europe. so tolerant that support fascizm in Ukraine. bravo.
notyou2, I have no problem with my sexuality. but your signature shows that you have any mental problems.
muy_thaiguy, at the first take care about your avatar which you was not able to write correct. at the second you just show your little knowledge almost in everything (not just in history).
JBlombier, Hurray for Luxembourg? hurray for Macedonia where US with albanian UCK (KLA) try to start next war in Balkan.

so you democratic liberals be happy with homosexual rights (and there is close time when also pedophiles will want their rights), be happy with drugs, with corporations which destroy our earth and prey us, be happy with fascizm (in Ukraine, Bosnia and Baltics states), be happy with chaos and wars in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Jemen, Ukraine. this is your world.

Oneyed

I'm sorry but you are the one who started the debate attacking our idea of tolerance, don't hide the stones you've been throwing behind your back now and start looking at us with an angelic smile.
had you started exposing your ideas the way you did in this post, I'm sure the debate wouldn't've heatened up that much.
Discussing how much gay propaganda there is and wether or not they should be allowed to adopt sounds like a legit debate.
Starting with your cornhole stories and calling gay anyone defending gay rights and such surely didn't "elevate" the debate the way you wanted if you truely wanted a debate.

[GoranZ]

So you want me to do what you want? No wonder I consider you as retard.

Never said that. Merely mocking you, with subtlety (too much it seems) for not thinking for yourself and merely repeating propaganda from your beloved Mother Russia.

You say that my opinion is Russian propaganda... You dont even respect my opinion you imbecile.

You are trying to tell me what I should do, and you are surprised that I'm hostile... What were you expecting, flowers?

Where have I told you what to do? I'll give some advice; chill out. So much hostility does nothing to benefit anyone.

You are afraid, you are pissing in your pants? You should, you are a chicken

I'm not a French(same reply to betiko's post)... we all know how they were cheering Hitler in Paris.

No, never said you were, but many of your ancestors in ancient times (if you really are from Macedonia) were at least bisexual. Relevancy? About as much as your WWII comment.

I think that you mixed Macedonia with Greece. What you said doesn't apply for Macedonia. So if you dont know history dont mix your fingers in it.

But I dont like people to tell me what I should do also.

Unless it your beloved Mother Russia?

Once again... CIA slut is preaching others about Russia. What an idiot

So once again... My house my rules, you dont like it, get a f*ck out. If you like gay people take them in your house.

Who said anything about your house? Shouldn't homosexuals have the same rights as you within their own homes and in public like everyone else? Or are you going to continue that line of hypocrisy that only serves to dig you deeper into that hole of yours?

My country my rules, you dont like it, get a f*ck out.
In my countries constitution it is clearly regulated what a person can be in public. What he does at his home is his job but in public is another matter. According to our constitution you can not be gay. SIMPLE.
If gay community wants recognition they can call for referendum and if the referendum has over 50% turnout and 50% of the voters say yes then they will enter in the constitution.
Until this happen they dont have rights, and its not your business to tell us what we should do. We do what we want to do, not what you want to do. You got that you gay loving imbecile?

Goran, there is no way to have normal debate with trolls.

Oneyed

There is a saying in my country "Dog that barks doesn't bite".
So they are all dogs that only bark, they wont do anything, they are too afraid, they are chickens.

[mrswdk]

In my countries constitution it is clearly regulated what a person can be in public. What he does at his home is his job but in public is another matter. According to our constitution you can not be gay. SIMPLE.

The Macedonian constitution specifically forbids public displays of homosexual behavior?

[Oneyed]

I'm sorry but you are the one who started the debate attacking our idea of tolerance, don't hide the stones you've been throwing behind your back now and start looking at us with an angelic smile.
had you started exposing your ideas the way you did in this post, I'm sure the debate wouldn't've heatened up that much.
Discussing how much gay propaganda there is and wether or not they should be allowed to adopt sounds like a legit debate.
Starting with your cornhole stories and calling gay anyone defending gay rights and such surely didn't "elevate" the debate the way you wanted if you truely wanted a debate.

you are wrong. I just said my opinion on adoption of children by homosexuals and about politics which support more homosexuals rights as normal family rights. and then become attacks (or irony) on me.

this are my early posts. could you tell me where is any attack on anybody in this topic?

lets give all our Earth to cornholers. and let them make Sodom of all the Earth.

Oneyed

do not be naive. this homosexual politics started years ago with "tolerance". now they have rights for wedding, for adopting children and now cornholes are in high politics and business.
some people care more about cornholes rights as about rights of children in Africa which die of hunger.

could you tell me what will be from boy who was adopted by two cornholes? next cornhole! or when this boy will come to school and will see how normal family looks like (father + mother) he will be confused.

I never saw that heterosexual people need any movement, need make hetero parade and so on. just fucking cornholes needs this.

Oneyed

realy? then why in some countries you can have problems with law when you say something against cornholes?
where is your live and let live? where is democracy? where is freedom to say your opinion?

btw, the homosexuality is supported by goverments and has more support as normal families.

there is realy less cornholes which are born as cornholes, but more of cornholes become cornholes.

Oneyed

and here is my post after several attacks against me, just becasue I have different opinion as "democrats" and liberals.

I am not from western europe. and I have no middle ages mind. I know several cornholes and we have no problem to speak. about life, about job, about sport... and nobody cares sex. if they could be together and they are happy let them. its their lives. but why they must make gayparades, everytime admonish that they are gays? do heterosexuals any parades? or if you meet any heterosexual his third sentence will be not "...and I am hetero...".
they want right for normal life, but normal life are not gayparades and outcry "I am gay!". and therefore I can speak with these gays wich I know, because they live normal life, they have job, they have firends (more heterosexual as homosexual), they have two dogs, they go on beer...

but they can not have any right to adopt any children.
it is against nature. (and it is against gods laws). it is not their life, but childs life and they take possibility of choose from this child.
is homosexuality way of life or about sex or about partnership? does not matter, something is wrong and this is not the best for children.

as you can see (but maybe you do not want see), there is no attacks. just my opinion on adoption and propaganda.

so Betiko, before you write anything try a little think. and do not just repeat "tolerant, liberal, democratic" bullshits. and have you anything relevant on your tolerance of fascizm?

Oneyed

[Oneyed]

There is a saying in my country "Dog that barks doesn't bite".

I know this saying . we also have it. but we have also one: if thousand monkeys will write thousand years they could write novel.

Oneyed

PS: I hope that Macedonia will be enough strong to stop US and albanian terorist before they make war in Balkan. because in Ukraine US failed, so they try make war in your country now.

[Oneyed]

there is close time when also pedophiles will want their rights

And all the children who want to have sex but are currently forbidden to by Big Brother.

if this is not irony you are idiot. and if this is irony, it is very, very bad joke.

be happy with drugs

Portugal decriminalized all drugs and both drug use and drug-related crime went down.

at the first I did not mean drug-related crime, but what drugs made with health and mind.
at the second what do you know about situation in Portugal? do yoi live there, or you just read any goverment propaganda?

Oneyed

[mrswdk]

there is close time when also pedophiles will want their rights

And all the children who want to have sex but are currently forbidden to by Big Brother.

if this is not irony you are idiot

inb4 Bible quotes

be happy with drugs

Portugal decriminalized all drugs and both drug use and drug-related crime went down.

at the first I did not mean drug-related crime, but what drugs made with health and mind.
at the second what do you know about situation in Portugal? do yoi live there, or you just read any goverment propaganda?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/eur ... 91060.html
http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... alization/
http://content.time.com/time/health/art ... 46,00.html

Since Portugal decriminalized all drugs, drug use, drug-related crime and drug-related deaths and diseases have all dropped.

[GoranZ]

In my countries constitution it is clearly regulated what a person can be in public. What he does at his home is his job but in public is another matter. According to our constitution you can not be gay. SIMPLE.

The Macedonian constitution specifically forbids public displays of homosexual behavior?

You can not marry with someone from the same gender, no way to adopt children, etc. Constitution doesn't say what is forbidden, but its precise when it comes to marriage(Marriage is an union of two people from opposite gender, or something close to this). With this any law about gay 'rights' wont pass within constitutional court. Everything within democratic principles.

There is a saying in my country "Dog that barks doesn't bite".

I know this saying . we also have it. but we have also one: if thousand monkeys will write thousand years they could write novel.

Oneyed

PS: I hope that Macedonia will be enough strong to stop US and albanian terorist before they make war in Balkan. because in Ukraine US failed, so they try make war in your country now.

Projected Russian pipelines will yield ~10% in Macedonian Budget from transit taxes alone... Russians will probably reduce the gas price also, and a lot of jobs will be created for the building of the gas pipes but last two are side effect from having those pipes in my country. Around 45% of the trace already is seeing building of smaller gas pipes atm, so expansion will go much smoother.
All that is a lot of money, so I'm not sure how much will we be able to keep into our favor. For that money US and EU will blackmail our government, for that I'm 100% sure.

I'm sorry but you are the one who started the debate attacking our idea of tolerance, don't hide the stones you've been throwing behind your back now and start looking at us with an angelic smile.
had you started exposing your ideas the way you did in this post, I'm sure the debate wouldn't've heatened up that much.
Discussing how much gay propaganda there is and wether or not they should be allowed to adopt sounds like a legit debate.
Starting with your cornhole stories and calling gay anyone defending gay rights and such surely didn't "elevate" the debate the way you wanted if you truely wanted a debate.

What tolerance? You call having gay parade a tolerance? Can you imagine non gay people to make anti-gay parade in the similar population percentage, or you will classify that as crime?
Gay people have rights to call for referendum about their rights, if the referendum is successful they will have it, otherwise no.
Tolerance also means that you should respect other countries choices. You dont respect them, and you are expecting that your choices should affect other countries. Classical Western Undemocratic behavior.

[betiko]

I'm sorry but you are the one who started the debate attacking our idea of tolerance, don't hide the stones you've been throwing behind your back now and start looking at us with an angelic smile.
had you started exposing your ideas the way you did in this post, I'm sure the debate wouldn't've heatened up that much.
Discussing how much gay propaganda there is and wether or not they should be allowed to adopt sounds like a legit debate.
Starting with your cornhole stories and calling gay anyone defending gay rights and such surely didn't "elevate" the debate the way you wanted if you truely wanted a debate.

What tolerance? You call having gay parade a tolerance? Can you imagine non gay people to make anti-gay parade in the similar population percentage, or you will classify that as crime?
Gay people have rights to call for referendum about their rights, if the referendum is successful they will have it, otherwise no.
Tolerance also means that you should respect other countries choices. You dont respect them, and you are expecting that your choices should affect other countries. Classical Western Undemocratic behavior.

Well we've been having a lot of "anti gay parades" here in france lately with the creation of the gay wedding these pas 2 years. And that was in huge proportions, nothing compared to the gay parade, probably 100 times bigger.

I have no problem with other countries not going for the gay marriage. I do have a problem with gay people getting beaten up in other countries if they start a manifestation on gay rights.
Was I in favour of gay marriage 10 years ago? No. But I then realized that these people have the right to love each other; and to be considered as a legit couple. Like if two guys have been living together for 40 years and one of them dies, well it's normal that the other guy keeps the house and his stuff, not that it goes to the dead guy's family who hasn't been talking to him for 40 years because he turned out gay.

[betiko]

I'm sorry but you are the one who started the debate attacking our idea of tolerance, don't hide the stones you've been throwing behind your back now and start looking at us with an angelic smile.
had you started exposing your ideas the way you did in this post, I'm sure the debate wouldn't've heatened up that much.
Discussing how much gay propaganda there is and wether or not they should be allowed to adopt sounds like a legit debate.
Starting with your cornhole stories and calling gay anyone defending gay rights and such surely didn't "elevate" the debate the way you wanted if you truely wanted a debate.

you are wrong. I just said my opinion on adoption of children by homosexuals and about politics which support more homosexuals rights as normal family rights. and then become attacks (or irony) on me.

this are my early posts. could you tell me where is any attack on anybody in this topic?

lets give all our Earth to cornholers. and let them make Sodom of all the Earth.

Oneyed

do not be naive. this homosexual politics started years ago with "tolerance". now they have rights for wedding, for adopting children and now cornholes are in high politics and business.
some people care more about cornholes rights as about rights of children in Africa which die of hunger.

could you tell me what will be from boy who was adopted by two cornholes? next cornhole! or when this boy will come to school and will see how normal family looks like (father + mother) he will be confused.

I never saw that heterosexual people need any movement, need make hetero parade and so on. just fucking cornholes needs this.

Oneyed

realy? then why in some countries you can have problems with law when you say something against cornholes?
where is your live and let live? where is democracy? where is freedom to say your opinion?

btw, the homosexuality is supported by goverments and has more support as normal families.

there is realy less cornholes which are born as cornholes, but more of cornholes become cornholes.

Oneyed

and here is my post after several attacks against me, just becasue I have different opinion as "democrats" and liberals.

I am not from western europe. and I have no middle ages mind. I know several cornholes and we have no problem to speak. about life, about job, about sport... and nobody cares sex. if they could be together and they are happy let them. its their lives. but why they must make gayparades, everytime admonish that they are gays? do heterosexuals any parades? or if you meet any heterosexual his third sentence will be not "...and I am hetero...".
they want right for normal life, but normal life are not gayparades and outcry "I am gay!". and therefore I can speak with these gays wich I know, because they live normal life, they have job, they have firends (more heterosexual as homosexual), they have two dogs, they go on beer...

but they can not have any right to adopt any children.
it is against nature. (and it is against gods laws). it is not their life, but childs life and they take possibility of choose from this child.
is homosexuality way of life or about sex or about partnership? does not matter, something is wrong and this is not the best for children.

as you can see (but maybe you do not want see), there is no attacks. just my opinion on adoption and propaganda.

so Betiko, before you write anything try a little think. and do not just repeat "tolerant, liberal, democratic" bullshits. and have you anything relevant on your tolerance of fascizm?

Oneyed

I do think Oneyed. Like I think your term is highly offensive and despreciative. I think I have the right to do so. I also think you've been intentionally provocative using it once in every sentence.

I have to say, this term reminds me a lot of the origins of the name of the band Korn. It was after one of them took a shit after eating corn and the shit he made was full of corn. So a corn hole reminds me of that.

[khazalid]

I AM CORNHOLIO. T-P FOR MY BUNGHOLE!

[mrswdk]

In my countries constitution it is clearly regulated what a person can be in public. What he does at his home is his job but in public is another matter. According to our constitution you can not be gay. SIMPLE.

The Macedonian constitution specifically forbids public displays of homosexual behavior?

You can not marry with someone from the same gender, no way to adopt children, etc. Constitution doesn't say what is forbidden, but its precise when it comes to marriage(Marriage is an union of two people from opposite gender, or something close to this). With this any law about gay 'rights' wont pass within constitutional court. Everything within democratic principles.

Not that I care whether or not Macedonia's government embraces 'democratic principles'', but wasn't the 'no gay marriage' amendment to the constitution voted on by a total of 76 politicians?

[AndyDufresne]

From the Macedonian Constitution:

Article 11
The human right to physical and moral dignity is irrevocable.


From the sounds of this, and some other articles and clauses that protect against discrimination, Macedonia seems like a nice place. And it probably is, and most of its people are probably as well. Goranz on the other hand,

Andy Dufresne is not possible to write any relevant post, just stupid pictures.

--Andy