Shadowstar wrote:Anyway, this whole ordeal is sounding rather complicated. How would the mafia even know who the doctor was to role-block him/her? Why didn't they just kill the doc if they knew? It doesn't add up... Besides, it might be that aimless is the one behind the killing, trying to disguise it behind the fact that he would have to be an idiot to have done it. And he is being more defensive than necessary.
FOS Aimless.
If the doc was roleblocked, I think it was entirely by accident. The Doc might have been one of the more suspicious players on Day 1, or one of the more experienced players, or just hit by dumb luck.
As for being more defensive than necessary... hmmm. Yeah, when I step back and look at it, I probably am. Well, I brought the point up to begin with because I thought it would be better for the town to hash out this argument now, rather than leave it for some intrepid thread miner later in the game.
The fact that Aimless immediately brought up the issue of being framed, tends to make me think he planned this.
Though I find it hard to actually credit this as evidence and worthy of a vote. FOS
Okay I missed quite a bit (most turned out to be useless)!
Things I realized:
1. There was one nightkill, I know fircoal well enough to know that he would include three killing roles (and there definitly aren't two docs).
2. The one kill (mandy) was done by a mafia janitor, so that leaves a vig and an SK who did not post their night action.
3. Anybody who logs on regularly would remember to turn in their night actions. There is a list a few pages back done by AD that shows five or six people who do not participate regularly, they might not have logges on in time to send their night actions.
My conclusion - one, maybe even two of these five has a killing role. I'm probably wrong though.
unriggable wrote:Okay I missed quite a bit (most turned out to be useless)!
Things I realized:
1. There was one nightkill, I know fircoal well enough to know that he would include three killing roles (and there definitly aren't two docs).
2. The one kill (mandy) was done by a mafia janitor, so that leaves a vig and an SK who did not post their night action.
3. Anybody who logs on regularly would remember to turn in their night actions. There is a list a few pages back done by AD that shows five or six people who do not participate regularly, they might not have logges on in time to send their night actions.
My conclusion - one, maybe even two of these five has a killing role. I'm probably wrong though.
No, no,I agree with you.
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
unriggable wrote:Okay I missed quite a bit (most turned out to be useless)!
Things I realized:
1. There was one nightkill, I know fircoal well enough to know that he would include three killing roles (and there definitly aren't two docs).
2. The one kill (mandy) was done by a mafia janitor, so that leaves a vig and an SK who did not post their night action.
3. Anybody who logs on regularly would remember to turn in their night actions. There is a list a few pages back done by AD that shows five or six people who do not participate regularly, they might not have logges on in time to send their night actions.
My conclusion - one, maybe even two of these five has a killing role. I'm probably wrong though.
They could be hiding in the pile of quiet people. O.o
It makes sense. Guess we will have to go through them one by one just to make sure.
unriggable wrote:Okay I missed quite a bit (most turned out to be useless)!
Things I realized:
1. There was one nightkill, I know fircoal well enough to know that he would include three killing roles (and there definitly aren't two docs).
2. The one kill (mandy) was done by a mafia janitor, so that leaves a vig and an SK who did not post their night action.
3. Anybody who logs on regularly would remember to turn in their night actions. There is a list a few pages back done by AD that shows five or six people who do not participate regularly, they might not have logges on in time to send their night actions.
My conclusion - one, maybe even two of these five has a killing role. I'm probably wrong though.
This is good. And, I think it is definitely strange that there was only one kill last night.
Of that list... hmmm. Primate or Puff seem to be the most likely suspects. Unit_2 never participates, so I don't think that counts as a tell. Hitman and Shadowstar seem to be the same way.
Puff is usually active though. And Primate is experienced, although he hasn't done anything yet. Could be a sign he just wants to slip in under the radar.
The main problem is that we come across this possibility:
One person, the SK, sent their night action, which was protected by the doc. Therefore one of those five (four under my idea) who did not send their night action is the VIG. If we lynch him were at a disadvantage.
unriggable wrote:The main problem is that we come across this possibility:
One person, the SK, sent their night action, which was protected by the doc. Therefore one of those five (four under my idea) who did not send their night action is the VIG. If we lynch him were at a disadvantage.
But what about the mafia? You didn't even mention them...
Sounds to me like you keep implying something...
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
unriggable wrote:The main problem is that we come across this possibility:
One person, the SK, sent their night action, which was protected by the doc. Therefore one of those five (four under my idea) who did not send their night action is the VIG. If we lynch him were at a disadvantage.
But what about the mafia? You didn't even mention them...
Sounds to me like you keep implying something...
Mafia definitly did their kill since there is a janitor who wiped the spot clean.
unriggable wrote:The main problem is that we come across this possibility:
One person, the SK, sent their night action, which was protected by the doc. Therefore one of those five (four under my idea) who did not send their night action is the VIG. If we lynch him were at a disadvantage.
But what about the mafia? You didn't even mention them...
Sounds to me like you keep implying something...
Mafia definitly did their kill since there is a janitor who wiped the spot clean.
AHHHHH! I see... Okay...
We can't assume that just because the role is unknown that it is a mafia cleaner, though.
virus90 wrote: I think Anarkist is a valuable asset to any game.
Aimless, you are acting very out of character. It is not like you to vote without hearing from someone. FOS Aimless
Also, as for Unriggable's conclusion, that is possible, and the reason why I voted to replace. It is stupid to randomly kill people who submarine, and yesterday provides an excellent example.
im not positive yet, but i cant tell if a mafia killed mando or another killer. Im thinkin mafia just cuz if there it was another killer, we would ahve know mando's role