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Woltato wrote:I like the look of this map although I think the Islamic Caliphates bonus would be too difficult to acquire as its so large and spread out.
TX AG 90 wrote:I'm going to advocate changing Hindu Indians back to 2.
Sure, you can defend it with 1 territory, but you have to take 7 territories just to get to that point. Or, you may be stuck in a position defending 6 with 3 borders. ONE is just not enough of a bonus.
DoomYoshi wrote:This map makes Ethiopia look like a push-over. It was several hundred years until Ethiopia was conquered (and even then they fought the Muslims out, although it ended up destroying all their infrastructure which is why Ethiopia and Eritrea are poor to this day).
HitRed wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:This map makes Ethiopia look like a push-over. It was several hundred years until Ethiopia was conquered (and even then they fought the Muslims out, although it ended up destroying all their infrastructure which is why Ethiopia and Eritrea are poor to this day).
India would be defended by 18 troops (6 terr X 3 troops on each). You might own some. Ethiopia has 3 terr X 3 troops on each which is 9. Both are worth +1 but India is twice has hard to take. So India +2 AND Iran touches Gujarat so India isn't a one territory defense.
My gut feeling on Jerusalem would be starting 4 or 5 Neutal troops.
Respectfully,
HitRed
gorehound wrote:Speaking as an Irishman and for the sake of historical accuracy, by 1250, the Norman invasion had still not conquered Ireland fully , with basically most of the west and north still under Family Kingships. To label the entire area as the Kingdom of England is incorrect.
Perhaps Kingdom of England and a separate Ireland would be better? Just sayin'
Looking forward to trying this map out
Woltato wrote:I like the look of this map although I think the Islamic Caliphates bonus would be too difficult to acquire as its so large and spread out.
DrPsyPhi wrote:I also like it. It looks playable and distinct. Nice visuals.
I think the addition of the sea-connectors enhances the historical accuracy.
Shetland Islands (North of Scotland) were ruled by Norway until 1266, for example. (I also thought giving Ireland to England this early was a bit much--Erin go bragh!)
But none of this is a deal breaker to me. I think it should move forward in production.
(One more thought--if Jerusalem starts neutral, I'd favor the nicely factor-able 42 other starting territories (43 total) since that makes games so nicely divided for 2, 3, 6, 7, and 14 players without any remainders and 4, 5, and 8 with only 2 extra neutrals)
Donelladan wrote:I tihnk the bonus are really bad.
three +8 and four+1 ?
No one ever gonna take the +8, they are just impossible.
I don't see a setting that will make the bonus structure interesting.
As soon as we have more than 3 players the +8 are for sure impossible to take.
So everyone going to fight over some +1.
And as someone said, islamic calphiphate is way way too difficult to hold.
Even compared to the other +8.
It has two +1 inside it ( oriental and indian) and jerusalem bordering him, since +1 are going to be taken first, except if you hold three +1 over 4 it's impossible hold caliphate.
Split the +8 bonus into smaller bonus.
Create some +3 +4 +5 etc
I find territory name too small and difficult to read.
Don't really like the graphic in general. I like way more smthg like Europe 1914, or Baltic State, Eurasia, France.2.1, Mongolia... etc... basically every other map based on the Earth we have on CC except classic.
Color the full area of the bonus with one color, make bonus much easier to read. Map is way more agreeable to look at.
EBConquer wrote:Maps coming along nicely! I too agree that something's not jiving w/ the graphics. The topographical view like that is somewhat hard to read the colored text. Maybe something a little more stylized w/ all the text having the same color?
here's a quick little dirty thing i did in less than 5 minutes to give you an idea. basically just put an inner shadow on Lithuania and Novgorod to represent the bonus but Donelladan's right, making something similar to Eurasia or France 2.1 would be great and would also take a ton more work but the payoff would be huge.
EBConquer wrote:here's a quick little dirty thing i did in less than 5 minutes to give you an idea. basically just put an inner shadow on Lithuania and Novgorod
Symmetry wrote:I'm a bit sceptical of the idea that this was a series of religions fighting against one another, as opposed to empires and kingdoms. I've asked the community to weigh in though.
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=228386
Hopefully, you'll get some decent feedback on this. For what it's worth, the way you use "Hindu" seems wrong to me.
Symmetry wrote:I'm a bit sceptical of the idea that this was a series of religions fighting against one another, as opposed to empires and kingdoms. I've asked the community to weigh in though.
https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=228386
Hopefully, you'll get some decent feedback on this. For what it's worth, the way you use "Hindu" seems wrong to me.
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