NIGHT 2 Viva Loose Vegas - Mafia Game

[Loose Canon]

Current Vote count;

Charle 6 - Son!c, Strike, Pixar, Maxleod, Homer_jay, Kingm

[homer_jay]

@sonic, what were the boxes that Charle ticked? I'm losing patience here.

@homer, why are you also ignoring my questions?

which questions? i saw you ask me what i meant by protecting myself and i answered that - i put a no lynch vote on just in case the day came to an end before i could get back online, so i wouldn't have an auto-vote against me on day 3.

if you asked anything else, sorry i missed it and didn't catch it scrolling back. ask again?

[Ragian]

No, I must've missed your answer. Inexplicably. I apologise.

Now, voters of Charle, why are we keen to end the day without chasing anything else? Why are half the community quiet? Why are you guys in a rush? I'd love to hear from traf, ew, and the others who are coasting.

[Kingm]

No, I must've missed your answer. Inexplicably. I apologise.

Now, voters of Charle, why are we keen to end the day without chasing anything else? Why are half the community quiet? Why are you guys in a rush? I'd love to hear from traf, ew, and the others who are coasting.

Multiple reasons mate, I did not want to get a vote placed on me next day, if Charle all of a sudden was lynched, thats one reason, not a really good one since I always can vote NL.
So my biggest reason for voting so "early", since I saw I would put Charle L-1, I wanted to see who if any would swing the hammer.

But since nobody did hammer I will first do this:

Unvote
No Lynch

And then try to use logic to see what we can get from nobody swinging the tool.

I think I see a couple different scenarios:

1.Charle is scum, and does not want to kill one of their own.
2.Charle is telling the truth, and scum has already voted on him, but maybe also one if not multiple players are some of the AFK players, so thats all of a sudden makes logic not so reliable anymore.

But anyhow, I do agree with you Ragian, lets see if we can find out anything else, but really not sure what we will find.
Like myself has nothing to come with, I want to see Charle lynched, so we can see if Sonic talks a lot of BS or the truth and the same with Charle, it will be a lot easier D3, when we have those answers.

[homer_jay]

it would definitely be nice if the MIA players showed up. but, this is just a game and sometimes it isn't the priority. just too bad it seems to have happen to so many at the same time.

one reason for the quick kill might be what happen last game. we were certain traf was scum, we were right... and he managed to make it to the final 3 before getting killed. but i see your logic for holding off too. if nothing else, it can buy time for the others to return and chime in.

i'll follow king's lead

Unvote
No Lynch

[*Pixar*]

No, I must've missed your answer. Inexplicably. I apologise.

Now, voters of Charle, why are we keen to end the day without chasing anything else? Why are half the community quiet? Why are you guys in a rush? I'd love to hear from traf, ew, and the others who are coasting.

What else could we possibly find out today? Not being a smartass just curious

[SoN!c]

We could make a list? Always good to make lists.. And if your scum that's always hard to do. You have to think too much like "will i place my scumbuddy nicely on the middle of the list or not?"

Town:

1)Pixar
2)Strike
3)Max
4)JFM10

Townish OR 3P:

5) Ragian:I liked his search activity but he is also trying to get Charle of the hook, well that is the impression anyways. Without Ragian Charle was lynched already. And Ragian is sowing doubts in town's heads, and he did that before when he was the 3P arsonist..; introducing uncertainty, all resulting in a lesser conviction into town's mind.

I hope his "sowing doubts" policy is just because he wants to make the max out of every day..i think he does so i have him as town for now.

Unsure:
6) Kingm:
A slippery eal. Perhaps a slippery norwegian salmon. But slippery like you have no clue.

7) Homer:
I saw him browsing this thread more then once after i posted the bomb that i am town sheriff and have a GUILTY report on Charle. That was on a friday so he just could have been busy, but he was certainly not busy enough because he checked in a couple of times.. More then enough time to post something like Strike, Pix and Max did. But he did not. Makes me think. Is he scum and was he mulling over that fact that his scumbuddy Charle got exposed? Thinking on a good explanation to save Charle? It's probably nothing, but 1 red flag raised in the back on my mind for sure.

Traf:
why is Traf not posting? Perhaps because he does not want to make the same mistake like in the last game? A town Traf should post. Is he missing games too like JFM?

9) Devante:
Devante looked a few times like "acting Devante" if you know what i mean.. Im sure Devante will say "what?" but Devante acting like he does not know what L-2 is?? Come'on. That's acting. Seems he wants to mimic his town play. Then again, it could be just town play.

10) EW:
N°1 scum suspect because of his D1 play. And because Charle said he had no idea who the king in the land of the blind is.. Was Charle protecting his scumbuddy EW there?

SCUM:

11)Charle: GUILTY night investigation report, and very farfetched claim

[Extreme Ways]

Feel free to check me Sonic. Also you got me guys, I am in fact on the table.

At the table: Charle, Kingm, Devante, Ragian, Maxleod (i hoep this wasnt guessed yet i just changed 1 name from another guess)

extra auto vote is a be active incentive/be inactive disincentive and I don't see how it favours one faction over another but if I'm wrong on that i'm wrong.
I've pmd jfm but I don't like auto kills or subs per se.

yes anyone who hasn't made a vote at the end of D2 will get 1vote added to the vote on them D3

I like this tbh

I believe Sonic. He (and others) are right that the game isn't the most active and he has nothing to win claiming a guilty on someone else as scum. He could just as easily claim nothing and wait till town implodes.

Even if Sonic is in fact lying then a one for one isn't bad.

vote charle
im also not that afraid to hammer early because im barely active and almost deadbeat a clan game by accident oops

It matters. If you're a lyncher, you might win the game if we get rid of Charle. You've typed it out, several times, as if you have a Charle spreadsheet that you're referring to.

If Rag is scum together with Charle I dont see this defence happening. I dont see a world in which town can lose after 1 mislynch and 1 no lynch. At least not with my role.

[strike wolf]

Table Sonic, EW, Charle, JFM, Max

[strike wolf]

Also I thought I had posted yesterday and now I cant find it. Maybe I never sent it. Gist was that bomb is unprovable unless mafia sets him off and Son!c is right that that's very unlikely to happen now that hes claimed. Were basically looking at a high likelihood of hitting scum with a fairly low risk.

[Extreme Ways]

To elaborate on my Rag point: I regard Rag as scum to be good enough not to try to defend Charle like that if Charle is scum.

Wrt Sonic:
My only point against Sonic is that... his emotion doesn't match the day opener? If I have a guilty result, you bet your ass I'm gloating or at least softing the result. Most likely I attack Charle in thread directly, backing up my result no less than a day later. Sonic focuses on the nightkill instead of his night result and potential partners.

I still think that even if Sonic is scum this is a good result but Sonic as a whacky third-party role I can definitely see. And Charle's claim is unverifiable except by death, so...

[Ragian]

Thank you.

[homer_jay]

i didn't see what Ragian was doing as trying to get charle off. unless someone pops up with a role that can end a day early, charle is going to be lynched. he was just saying that lynching him right away just saves the other scum from having to react to him being caught out and deprives them of a chance to slip up

[Devante]

@ Sonic.....What???? acting Devante.... I mean WHATTTTTTTT???

anyways;

at table Sonic, Kingm, Kong, Ragian, Maxleod


And as this went on I don't see anything that would change my mind so VOTE CHARLE and worse case here if this doesn't pan out then Conics got my vote tomorrow

[SoN!c]

i didn't see what Ragian was doing as trying to get charle off. unless someone pops up with a role that can end a day early, charle is going to be lynched. he was just saying that lynching him right away just saves the other scum from having to react to him being caught out and deprives them of a chance to slip up

He did not say that but one scum to another would certainly understand it like that yes. Good comment.

Could you make a list Homer? And propose who should i investigate tonight because investigating the obvious ( EW) is just dumb.

[Loose Canon]

Current Vote Count;

Charle 6 - Son!c, Strike, Pixar, Maxleod, Extreme, Devante

No Lynch 2 - Kingm, Homer_jay

[SoN!c]

Also making a note here:

Let's say EW is scum for sake of argument (no surprise), but he plays it very well hinting he has a very big town PR then the note is that Devante followed EW fast bussing Charle..

PS: Traf has 20 active games and is not missing any turns. So he either posts something here or im gonna investigate Traf tonight if no better target is proposed (not EW).

[homer_jay]

5) Ragian:I liked his search activity but he is also trying to get Charle of the hook, well that is the impression anyways. Without Ragian Charle was lynched already. And Ragian is sowing doubts in town's heads, and he did that before when he was the 3P arsonist..; introducing uncertainty, all resulting in a lesser conviction into town's mind.

I hope his "sowing doubts" policy is just because he wants to make the max out of every day..i think he does so i have him as town for now.

Ragian didn't explicitly say that he wants to give scum a chance to talk, but seems like you agree with my assessment of what he meant.

i think any of the inexplicably absent are worth an investigation. JFM is missing games, so maybe not him as he is fully MIA. but anybody who's too quiet is at least a little suspicious.

[Kingm]

I will try this, never swung the hammer before, but its a first for everything I guess.
I pray that Sonic is not fucking with all of us, but I really do think that there is no way that Charle is not scum.
And like EW said, if Charle turns town, then we know Sonic is scum, so its a 1 for 1.

So here I go:

Unvote No Lynch
Vote Charle

[Ragian]

Don't swing the hammer, man. We're in the middle of important discussions. Jesus! @son!c, you shouldn't announce who you're investigating in case scum have the ability to tamper with it.

[SoN!c]

The smart way would be that Charle voted himself, instead Kingm hammering him in the middle of important discussions to shut those down before more harm could be done.. The slippery eal came to land to hammer.. Interesting.

[Kingm]

Damn, I thought there was nothing more to discuss, and then I thought about all the AFK players that still are alive, and my head said that for sure at least 1 of the last 2 - 3 scum/3p players has not voted, so it would be great to give them a vote when we start D3.

But can I unvote again now, I guess not since I already hammered.

And Sonic, what make me slipperly?
I don't like eel's either, I find them a bit creepy

[Loose Canon]

Its a Lynch on Charle

it was a few weeks ago when I was sourcing drinks for the grand opening I was chatting to Vinnie of Vinnies Vegas Vinters to see what he could do me at a good price.
Vinnie supplied me with some excellent Italian Wines that came from a family vineyard in the foothills of Mount Etna.
We got chatting and while I wasn't interested in his offer of investment, he did alert me that there was a lot of crime in Vegas, there was even a rumour going around of a bomb plot!
Guest security being of paramount importance to me, I enquired if he knew anyone who might be able to provide me with some undercover security/PI work.
Luckily he knew just the chap and put me in touch with Charle.

But as you have seen fit to lynch Charle we no longer have our undercover security guy.
I hope you don't feel less safe now, I felt it only best to let my guests know.

Charle - MAFIA Cop (could investigate a player each night and learn everything about them) has been lynched.

It is now Night 2 - 72 hours to send me any requests

[SoN!c]

Charle - MAFIA COP