Prison Mafia TOWN WIN !!

[pershy]

I propose we go around 1 by 1 and all just full reveal our roles and night activities. Most of the people at the top of my list have already given plenty of evidence and won't have much new info to share. We can line up everyone's stories with what's been shared thus far and see whose stories are bullish*t.

This may be the way to go.

[pershy]

I've already soft claimed so I may as well finish the claim.
Josh already correctly guessed it.

I'm a town hypnotiser - supposedly a powerful investigative role but I found my one successful investigation to be inconclusive though it points to Dukasaur being town cause it seemed like he sees himself that way.

ABILITIES:
Twice per game, may visit and hypnotize a player at night
The hypnotized player’s first message of the following day will be changed to "I am [the role they see themselves as]" once sent
If the hypnotized player does not speak within the first 25 messages of the day, a message will be generated for them

the latter is what seems to have happened for dukasaur.

N1 - visited Pixar - action unsucessful and was silenced
N2 - visited Dukasaur - had reason to believe he was scum
N3 - visited actorday - he was dead already
N4 - visited theJmac to find out more - for silent ones at least my power forces them to speak and y'all know I suspected him. Guess what, he was dead.

It's not all bad news though. I can only use my action twice per whole game so I still have one action left. It could be useful on a silent one or we could collectively choose someone.

As town we can never know- only suspect - Degaston and i-andrei were SURE that Duke was scum - at least he was 3rd party so it's not such a bad lynch.
But these shanks are really annoying and keep killing innocent townies. Also it's possible to give shanks to scum. An investigation reveals info without killing the subject so let's just cool our jets if there are any shank holders left (maybe it's a one shot thing).

OK So Josh's visit of Pixar seems to confirm that he is a ghost and ghost is normally a town aligned role. Pixar I asked you to claim before and you just said "yup I'm town" - claim means what I've just done - your role, alignement and actions - but especially your role. I'm still not convinced he's town.

My main suspects - actor, cdbridges, jmac are all dead now and I was wrong about them of course cause as I said as town you never really know - just suspect - now I don't know who to suspect but I would probably look at Darin, Ragian and the quiet ones - dunk? Also I can't let dukasaur off the hook completely in case he is godfather or conman.

I'm operating under the assumption that fusi, i-andrei, degaston and josh are all town - of course I could be fooled - but they are on my town list for the moment so it's interesting that fusi is fossing degaston. Ragian is at times too but that swings back and forth. The others I am not sure of.

I think the claiming thing has to happen at this point too.

In a way it's odd that we haven't got another scum yet - maybe there are not many scum and more 3rd party. I will have to do a lot of revising cause to be honest - I think scum is doing a very good job so hats off to them. But we will get you...oh yes!!!

[Ragian]

For crying out loud, guys. Could you now mass claim willy nilly? I, for one, do not suspect Fusi or pershy, so why are you volunteering your information first? Let's agree on a chronology. If not, scum will just sit back and make their information fit whatever is out there.

I think Dukasaur, Maxleod, or Dunk should go first. I would assume that some would also want me to go before pershy and Fusi.

Could we cool it until we have some sort of agreement on this?

[Dukasaur]

That is not good. Really had a good feeling about jmac. Lynch me away!

It's small consolation, but at least I'm vindicated in my instincts about JMac.

[Maxleod]

I can partially corroborate some of the things dega and fusi said:

PRISON MAFIA NIGHT 4 RESULTS

Sent: Fri May 12, 2023 6:25 pm
From: Razorvich
To: Maxleod
You enter the cell of PepeAtila and hide in the darkness.

You see fusibaseball, and Dunk90 enter and leave his cell one after the other

After they leave, on inspection, PepeAtila has been Shanked.... he is DEAD

[degaston]

As town we can never know- only suspect - Degaston and i-andrei were SURE that Duke was scum - at least he was 3rd party so it's not such a bad lynch.

If you read the thread, I think I was pretty clear that I did not know if Duke was scum, only that his lynch would be beneficial for town.

I don't understand what a 3rd party was doing with a role like that, or what his win condition was.
At least it's confirmed that he was telling the truth about Pepe. I suspect that he was also telling the truth about Pixar and i-andrei. (Just to make it clear, pershy, that does NOT mean I'm sure that they are town, just that they are probably not scum)

[pershy]

dude - it's fine to share stuff, but directly quoting a message from the mod is in direct violation of the game rules. Sharing is different.
Hopefully you won't get into too much trouble as it doesn't reveal anything about your alignment but still.

I can partially corroborate some of the things dega and fusi said:

PRISON MAFIA NIGHT 4 RESULTS

Sent: Fri May 12, 2023 6:25 pm
From: Razorvich
To: Maxleod
You enter the cell of PepeAtila and hide in the darkness.

You see fusibaseball, and Dunk90 enter and leave his cell one after the other

After they leave, on inspection, PepeAtila has been Shanked.... he is DEAD

[pershy]

some notes, mainly for myself to try and keep track. Feel free to add to them or amend them

DEAD -

actorday - Town crier (shivved by Ragian N4)
cdbridges - town defense attorney (modkilled for silence D3)
chanakram2020 town gossip - N killed N3 by?
cofari - town doc (modkilled D1)
General Bax. - town cop (lynched)
PepeAtila - town bodyguard (shivved by fusi)
TheJmac - town agent (shivved by Pixar)
The Jonah - town gossip (Nkilled N1 ???)
TrafalgarLaw01 - town detective (Nkilled by?)
dukehazzard - 3rd party questioner /lynched)
LooseCanon - 3rd party Psycho killed by fusi
traffic133 - mafia pyro (how killed?)
halrob64 - mafia informer (lynched D2 by Fusi, Darin, i-andei, Ragian, Pixar, Degaston, Dunk, Pepe, DukeH, Josh, Jmac) (thrown under bus by someone?) pershy & max were silenced that day

ALIVE

pixar (somehow still alive) - hasn't hard claimed - probably ghost (alignment???) killed Jmac
Darin44 - (suspicious of Pix and Degaston)
degaston - handed out 3 shanks
Dukasaur - was hypnotised, has fossed dunk
Dunk90 - has fossed degaston, wants to lynch pixar
fusibaseball - claimed Jack (protect, investigate, kill) has killed loose canon and pepe. Saved Josh
i-andrei - has fossed max
joshzam - tried to kill pixar
maxleod - "pixar is not town"
pershy - claims town hypnotiser
ragian - ???

[pershy]

I might have to look at i-andrei again too (as well as darin, duka, max, ragian etc.) just cause so far he has avoided my radar, I generally like his posts but maybe I'm not reading deep enough - my impression of i-andrei is that he seems to be investigative - follows degaston logic quite a lot...but voting history??? Seems to subtly follow the general trend possibly.

Just a thought.

[pershy]

basically I have no clue lol

My bad earlier - there are 2 scum down.

How many are left? I would think 2 no? 3 sounds like a lot at this point. But maybe there's only 1 and lots of 3rd party? Or 2 more scum and 2 more 3rd party? Something like that? Be curious to hear what y'all think.

Out of 24 we have
9 confirmed dead townies
2 confirmed dead 3rd party and
2 confirmed dead scum

leaving 11

[pershy]

Dunk - what were you doing in Pepe's cell?

[pershy]

vote Dunk90

My 1st choice of who to be pressured for a full claim etc.

[Dunk90]

I propose we go around 1 by 1 and all just full reveal our roles and night activities. Most of the people at the top of my list have already given plenty of evidence and won't have much new info to share. We can line up everyone's stories with what's been shared thus far and see whose stories are bullish*t.

This may be the way to go.

I'm an electrician. I got 15 years for Arson. My abilities suck. Or I just don't know how to use them properly. I have 3 tasers. I can Taser someone during the day to silence them. Or I can pass at night to another player. That is it and that is all. I can't tase anyone at night. So I was hoping Fusi would use it on someone to save me from the shank. That's what I was doing in his cell.

[Dunk90]

Dunk - what were you doing in Pepe's cell?

I was attempting to pass to a Taser. He was already dead when I got there

[Dunk90]

I propose we go around 1 by 1 and all just full reveal our roles and night activities. Most of the people at the top of my list have already given plenty of evidence and won't have much new info to share. We can line up everyone's stories with what's been shared thus far and see whose stories are bullish*t.

This may be the way to go.

I'm an electrician. I got 15 years for Arson. My abilities suck. Or I just don't know how to use them properly. I have 3 tasers. I can Taser someone during the day to silence them. Or I can pass at night to another player. That is it and that is all. I can't tase anyone at night. So I was hoping Fusi would use it on someone to save me from the shank. That's what I was doing in his cell.

Check that. Correction. I attempted to pass to Pepe. He was already dead. Apparently Fusi was there as well. I didn't know that at the time.

[Dunk90]

I've already soft claimed so I may as well finish the claim.
Josh already correctly guessed it.

I'm a town hypnotiser - supposedly a powerful investigative role but I found my one successful investigation to be inconclusive though it points to Dukasaur being town cause it seemed like he sees himself that way.

ABILITIES:
Twice per game, may visit and hypnotize a player at night
The hypnotized player’s first message of the following day will be changed to "I am [the role they see themselves as]" once sent
If the hypnotized player does not speak within the first 25 messages of the day, a message will be generated for them

the latter is what seems to have happened for dukasaur.

N1 - visited Pixar - action unsucessful and was silenced
N2 - visited Dukasaur - had reason to believe he was scum
N3 - visited actorday - he was dead already
N4 - visited theJmac to find out more - for silent ones at least my power forces them to speak and y'all know I suspected him. Guess what, he was dead.

It's not all bad news though. I can only use my action twice per whole game so I still have one action left. It could be useful on a silent one or we could collectively choose someone.

As town we can never know- only suspect - Degaston and i-andrei were SURE that Duke was scum - at least he was 3rd party so it's not such a bad lynch.
But these shanks are really annoying and keep killing innocent townies. Also it's possible to give shanks to scum. An investigation reveals info without killing the subject so let's just cool our jets if there are any shank holders left (maybe it's a one shot thing).

OK So Josh's visit of Pixar seems to confirm that he is a ghost and ghost is normally a town aligned role. Pixar I asked you to claim before and you just said "yup I'm town" - claim means what I've just done - your role, alignement and actions - but especially your role. I'm still not convinced he's town.

My main suspects - actor, cdbridges, jmac are all dead now and I was wrong about them of course cause as I said as town you never really know - just suspect - now I don't know who to suspect but I would probably look at Darin, Ragian and the quiet ones - dunk? Also I can't let dukasaur off the hook completely in case he is godfather or conman.

I'm operating under the assumption that fusi, i-andrei, degaston and josh are all town - of course I could be fooled - but they are on my town list for the moment so it's interesting that fusi is fossing degaston. Ragian is at times too but that swings back and forth. The others I am not sure of.

I think the claiming thing has to happen at this point too.

In a way it's odd that we haven't got another scum yet - maybe there are not many scum and more 3rd party. I will have to do a lot of revising cause to be honest - I think scum is doing a very good job so hats off to them. But we will get you...oh yes!!!

I'M NOT THAT QUIET!!!!!!!

[Darin44]

going camping so don't lynch me before i get back 28 hr be on my phone if i can

[i-andrei]

I don't understand. On one hand all the townies that died and said nothing.
Then Jmac was town, also said nothing when we were discussing to lynch him and also Mafia kills him by night.

Also i think i already revealed my role.

[Maxleod]

I think Dukasaur, Maxleod, or Dunk should go first. I would assume that some would also want me to go before pershy and Fusi.

I will have no problem to claim if I have to But.:

Why am I a priority to you? Granted, I was wrong about Jmac, but I was not the only one. Other than that, it seems to me that I've been nothing but helpful to Town (I haven't killed or lynched a townie, and Scum wasted a nightkill on me) doing my best to help us win. If that's because I said I suspected you before... fair enough I guess

You said you gave Pixar your shank. Why? He's been caught in multiple lies, who in his right mind would give him a shank?

[Maxleod]

Dunk, why did you want to give Pepe a taser? He's been mostly silent, so why him? Did you have some info that we don't? Though that was a good idea (alas for nothing). Did you give it to someone else?

[Maxleod]

Edit: @dunk

And what made you think Pepe would have protected you?

[degaston]

I think I'd like to see Ragian give some information. I think he's the one I know the least about.

[degaston]

Did you give it to someone else?

I got one. I didn't think it would help town, so I haven't used it.

[*Pixar*]

Night 1 : Sent message to Josh about dropping soap
Day 2: Sent message to halrob telling him he better claim or he's dead
Night 2: Sent message to Pepe about halrob and him being buddies, turns out he was town
Day 3: Sent message to Dukasaur which I didn't see him post it... “Are you ready to help me murder Toy Story Boy today? He’s hiding in his cell right now! I could use your help along with 7 others. This will help the bad boys for sure .” Tried acting like a Scum member to see if he would hop on the train.
Night 3: Sent another message to Pepe basically saying he's lucky to be alive again not seeing him as town
Day 4: Sent message to max threatening to kill him with the shank
Night 4: Didn't send a message and used shank to kill Jmac, bad guess as you can see.

Obviously responsible for all the hair turning white people around here...

[joshzam]

If we're going to prioritize a list of people to pressure for claims, here's my list of chummy-to-scummy:
joshzam
fusibaseball
degaston
i-andrei
Ragian
Dunk90
Darin44
*Pixar*
Maxleod
pershy
Dukasaur

I trust fusi and degaston 100%.

I would want a full claim from Dukasaur before anyone else. Generally quiet. We have zero idea of his night actions. Never voted D2. Never voted D3. And I don't believe that silly mind control claim of pershy's. I think they're scum buddies. But pershy has already claimed (when he was expressly told not to by Ragian), so I want Dukasaur to spill the beans. Who is he and what has he been up to for the entire game??

Vote Dukasaur

The Dukasaur/pershy alliance is my top suspicion at the moment, but I could also explore a Darin/Dunk/i-andrei triangle of collusion if anyone wants to go down that rabbit hole with me.