Prison Mafia TOWN WIN !!

[PepeAtila]

Why on earth would Josh want to mute himself? To keep attention away from him?Also Pepe you may not have got my message because you were speaking gibberish after visiting me. And yes I can claim that I sent you a message again Pepe to see how you would respond. I’m getting town vibes from you now. Still only getting one kill a night… thought you may have tried to kill me two nights ago… Did you kill actorday Ragian???

Perhaps you are right about this, but as far as I know I was speaking gibberish, doesn't mean I cannot hear or read (perhaps Raz can tell if not talking means also not receiving messages?) ....
So you really think I can have tried to kill you and didn't success ? why? because you are immortal?

[*Pixar*]

Yes I’ve stated I can’t be night killed. Im curious what Ragian has to get off his chest because I have something as well that may go along with that

[Ragian]

Yes, I killed actorday with a shank that I believe was given to me by josh (he said, "shank you very much," which I took to be a clue). This also means that there was no mafia kill (well, it means that to me, not to anyone who thinks I'm mafia).

I went for actorday because he wasn't sitting right with me. In their defence, they've said multiple times that they are new to the game, but other than that was just a blood lust (and limping in on halrob's vote) that screamed newbie scum to me. There was no giving opinions on anyone despite loads of other people doing just that, and I feel a townie newbie would try to copy what others do.

I'm eager to hear what Pixar has to say to this. Especially because I can't see a brain as logical and calm as Josh's visit Pixar after being told that it will mute him.

[Ragian]

I forgot my point on the no mafia kill...

DON'T mention it in order to get town cred, but if you protected someone tonight, there's a chance that that someone was targeted by mafia. That means that you can safely assume that the person you protected is non-mafia (can't rule out third party). Anyway, you can lean towards that person (but do it secretly).

[fusibaseball]

14 left, 13 eligible to vote, 7 for majority

If we started at 50%/25%/25% Town/Mafia/3rd Party, we're down to 5 Town/4 Mafia/5 3rd Party (plus or minus 1 to each group...I estimate it's actually 6/4/4). My point is getting a majority vote together on a correct Mafia player will require pretty much 100% participation from both Town and 3rd party.

Pixar has been caught in a shit-ton of lies by this point, so I'm willing to vote him if that's where it goes, but I'm concerned we literally won't have enough votes if Dukasaur and JMac continue not voting. I don't find either of them particularly suspicious but it may actually be a necessity to go for 1 of them.

Mafia is not aware of Town vs 3rd party allegiance, correct? Seems like a whole lot of Town has been killed and not 3rd party.

[Ragian]

All that hinges on us starting 50%-25%-25%. It's usually 1-3 in ratio.

[fusibaseball]

How do you mean? Or I guess a better question is what's your best guess at the ratio for the remaining 14 between the 3 factions?

[i-andrei]

I am curios also who visited me.

[i-andrei]

So i see some possible scenarios/questions here:
1. N1 - 3 people get muted so mafia kills one of them thinking they can reveal something. Is Pixar mafia based on this? Did he kill chanakram and then realised muted people don't see thw kills so he left the other ones alone?
2. Was Bax really cop?
3. Is Ragian lying? If someone protected another player or blocked a kill they should speak now. If none speaks i would think Ragian is Mafia. I had him in my trustworthy town people but now i am not sure.
4. The person that visited me last night i believe it's 100% town alligned. Would this person come forward?

[Maxleod]

Ragian, how do you know there was a failed mafia kill attempt? I know that because I was the target, but how do YOU know?

And whoever protected me DO NOT REVEAL YOURSELF, or even give a hint. Under no circumstances.

[Ragian]

Look guys, you need to read the thread

I've admitted to killing off actorday with a shank. That was the only death. I.e. there was no mafia kill.

So i see some possible scenarios/questions here:
1. N1 - 3 people get muted so mafia kills one of them thinking they can reveal something. Is Pixar mafia based on this? Did he kill chanakram and then realised muted people don't see thw kills so he left the other ones alone?
2. Was Bax really cop?
3. Is Ragian lying? If someone protected another player or blocked a kill they should speak now. If none speaks i would think Ragian is Mafia. I had him in my trustworthy town people but now i am not sure.
4. The person that visited me last night i believe it's 100% town alligned. Would this person come forward?

Have you thought all of these through? I mean, we KNOW that Bax was really a cop.

@Max, why do you come out saying that you were targeted? I specifically said that you (if it is indeed true that you were targeted) should keep mum about it

[Ragian]

How do you mean? Or I guess a better question is what's your best guess at the ratio for the remaining 14 between the 3 factions?

As stated earlier, I don't think guesswork will get us anywhere good, but from experience (and what is stated on various websites), the town usually outnumbers non-town on a 1-3 ratio.

[i-andrei]

Look guys, you need to read the thread

I've admitted to killing off actorday with a shank. That was the only death. I.e. there was no mafia kill.

So i see some possible scenarios/questions here:
1. N1 - 3 people get muted so mafia kills one of them thinking they can reveal something. Is Pixar mafia based on this? Did he kill chanakram and then realised muted people don't see thw kills so he left the other ones alone?
2. Was Bax really cop?
3. Is Ragian lying? If someone protected another player or blocked a kill they should speak now. If none speaks i would think Ragian is Mafia. I had him in my trustworthy town people but now i am not sure.
4. The person that visited me last night i believe it's 100% town alligned. Would this person come forward?

Have you thought all of these through? I mean, we KNOW that Bax was really a cop.

@Max, why do you come out saying that you were targeted? I specifically said that you (if it is indeed true that you were targeted) should keep mum about it

Why would Bax not give out any info before getting lynched?
Also, why would people trust you without evidence there was indeed a Mafia failed kill?

[*Pixar*]

Yes, I killed actorday with a shank that I believe was given to me by josh (he said, "shank you very much," which I took to be a clue). This also means that there was no mafia kill (well, it means that to me, not to anyone who thinks I'm mafia).

I went for actorday because he wasn't sitting right with me. In their defence, they've said multiple times that they are new to the game, but other than that was just a blood lust (and limping in on halrob's vote) that screamed newbie scum to me. There was no giving opinions on anyone despite loads of other people doing just that, and I feel a townie newbie would try to copy what others do.

I'm eager to hear what Pixar has to say to this. Especially because I can't see a brain as logical and calm as Josh's visit Pixar after being told that it will mute him.

Well when I awoke this day I found a shank next to my doorway. Figured you were the one who killed actorday. I'm able to kill someone next night. So if you guys decide to lynch me (Which is probably not the smartest considering I'm the only one who has fully claimed here), what happens to the shank? Goes to a random person?

[fusibaseball]

There must be separate silencing abilities in play. No way would Josh visit Pixar on Night 3 knowing he would be silenced today. Why is Josh silenced?

[Ragian]

Look guys, you need to read the thread

I've admitted to killing off actorday with a shank. That was the only death. I.e. there was no mafia kill.

So i see some possible scenarios/questions here:
1. N1 - 3 people get muted so mafia kills one of them thinking they can reveal something. Is Pixar mafia based on this? Did he kill chanakram and then realised muted people don't see thw kills so he left the other ones alone?
2. Was Bax really cop?
3. Is Ragian lying? If someone protected another player or blocked a kill they should speak now. If none speaks i would think Ragian is Mafia. I had him in my trustworthy town people but now i am not sure.
4. The person that visited me last night i believe it's 100% town alligned. Would this person come forward?

Have you thought all of these through? I mean, we KNOW that Bax was really a cop.

@Max, why do you come out saying that you were targeted? I specifically said that you (if it is indeed true that you were targeted) should keep mum about it

Why would Bax not give out any info before getting lynched?
Also, why would people trust you without evidence there was indeed a Mafia failed kill?

You have to ask Bax that. The mod has provided us with that info. The rest is a simple logical thought. Do you think mafia would stop killing in order to make the game harder on themselves?

@Pix, why did you find it near you? I left it in actorday... That might just be flavour, though.

FP'ed by Fusi - this is exactly what I'm befuddled about, too.

[i-andrei]

Yes, I killed actorday with a shank that I believe was given to me by josh (he said, "shank you very much," which I took to be a clue). This also means that there was no mafia kill (well, it means that to me, not to anyone who thinks I'm mafia).

I went for actorday because he wasn't sitting right with me. In their defence, they've said multiple times that they are new to the game, but other than that was just a blood lust (and limping in on halrob's vote) that screamed newbie scum to me. There was no giving opinions on anyone despite loads of other people doing just that, and I feel a townie newbie would try to copy what others do.

I'm eager to hear what Pixar has to say to this. Especially because I can't see a brain as logical and calm as Josh's visit Pixar after being told that it will mute him.

Well when I awoke this day I found a shank next to my doorway. Figured you were the one who killed actorday. I'm able to kill someone next night. So if you guys decide to lynch me (Which is probably not the smartest considering I'm the only one who has fully claimed here), what happens to the shank? Goes to a random person?

Can a ghost use a shank?
#fakeclaim

[Ragian]

Well, the ghost can talk to us :shrug:

[*Pixar*]

Look guys, you need to read the thread

I've admitted to killing off actorday with a shank. That was the only death. I.e. there was no mafia kill.

So i see some possible scenarios/questions here:
1. N1 - 3 people get muted so mafia kills one of them thinking they can reveal something. Is Pixar mafia based on this? Did he kill chanakram and then realised muted people don't see thw kills so he left the other ones alone?
2. Was Bax really cop?
3. Is Ragian lying? If someone protected another player or blocked a kill they should speak now. If none speaks i would think Ragian is Mafia. I had him in my trustworthy town people but now i am not sure.
4. The person that visited me last night i believe it's 100% town alligned. Would this person come forward?

Have you thought all of these through? I mean, we KNOW that Bax was really a cop.

@Max, why do you come out saying that you were targeted? I specifically said that you (if it is indeed true that you were targeted) should keep mum about it

Why would Bax not give out any info before getting lynched?
Also, why would people trust you without evidence there was indeed a Mafia failed kill?

You have to ask Bax that. The mod has provided us with that info. The rest is a simple logical thought. Do you think mafia would stop killing in order to make the game harder on themselves?

@Pix, why did you find it near you? I left it in actorday... That might just be flavour, though.

FP'ed by Fusi - this is exactly what I'm befuddled about, too.

It just says I had a visitor last night who left it.

[Ragian]

Well, that pretty much confirms that Josh is handing them out as I mentioned earlier today. It's not the same shank.

[fusibaseball]

Max coming forward as the target of Night 3 is useful because it makes Pixar more dangerous. Max was the most vocal on Day 3 about getting Pixar out.

We have strong evidence that Pixar is capable of killing either individually via 3rd party role or collectively via Mafia. We also have evidence that he is responsible for silencing. He also has been caught in at least 5 outright lies by now. I think we need to vote Pixar

[degaston]

Ok, so General Bax not saying anything before getting lynched while being a cop is unusual.
1. was he really a cop or we just see him as a cop after he died?
2. does he know how to play the game?

1. I think it's normal for the true role to be revealed when someone dies, though it's up to the mod.

2. I think the new players are getting some good lessons on how not to play the game.

• Post something each day so that you're not mod-killed.
• Post a bit more than that so that you're less likely to be lynched.
• If you're a town player and are close to being lynched, tell your role and what you've found out so far. You might still be lynched, but at least then we'll know that you weren't lying, and your information could be useful. You still win with town, even if you're dead.

[*Pixar*]

Can anyone come forward with shanking chanakam Night 2? Or was that a Scum kill?

FP'ed by Ragian...

So do you think Josh handing out Shanks is a Mafia role? Why would he visit me, other than the fact that he wanted to be silenced away from the drama that unfolds today? Also I'm able to hand off the shank to someone else if I don't want to use it. Don't believe I can hand it off mid-day though.

[Ragian]

I guess it could be a scum role, but Josh isn't scummy in my book so far, so I would think it's not a scum role. Could be any alignment really. I can't tell you why he would target you. It doesn't make sense to me, but hey, maybe I don't know Josh as well as I thought

Anyway, he can't tell us until tomorrow.

Chana was found in his cell dead. No mentioning of a shank, so I would presume that it was a mafia kill.

[*Pixar*]

I guess it could be a scum role, but Josh isn't scummy in my book so far, so I would think it's not a scum role. Could be any alignment really. I can't tell you why he would target you. It doesn't make sense to me, but hey, maybe I don't know Josh as well as I thought

Anyway, he can't tell us until tomorrow.

Chana was found in his cell dead. No mentioning of a shank, so I would presume that it was a mafia kill.

Good "point" So josh decided to hand off the shank to you instead of using it Night 2. So who is handing out shanks?