[OFFICIAL] Charle's Fun Mafia - "Game On" Day 2

[Ragian]

Unvote vote Ragian

No bluff. I just went to bed. Nice try, though. Obviously, I'd prefer lynching you first because town will now lose their last protective role, but trading me for scum D3 is still doable for town if the rest of town wakes the fudge up and participates.

@EW, you seemed to be role-fishing, and I felt no inclination to share anything because my hands are clean. If you asked me flat out in what would've felt like a non-antagonist way, I must have skimmed it while out hiking. It's never a good thing to check a mafia thread on the phone while cooking food on a bonfire.

I'm out for the rest of the day (I'll be here a couple of hours more). I'm looking forward to reading all of Son!c's ways to get out of being lynched.

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FYI, do not speed lynch Son!c D3, but do lynch him. You need to establish who's likely to be his scumbuddies before ending the day.

[Ragian]

@EW, I believe you'd play it out similarly as me when not understanding why your important town role was about to be outed for no darn reason. You saying it's how you'd play it out as scum has no real bite as I suspect you'd play a scum role to mimick town.

[chanakam2020]

Unvote vote Ragian

No bluff. I just went to bed. Nice try, though. Obviously, I'd prefer lynching you first because town will now lose their last protective role, but trading me for scum D3 is still doable for town if the rest of town wakes the fudge up and participates.

@EW, you seemed to be role-fishing, and I felt no inclination to share anything because my hands are clean. If you asked me flat out in what would've felt like a non-antagonist way, I must have skimmed it while out hiking. It's never a good thing to check a mafia thread on the phone while cooking food on a bonfire.

I'm out for the rest of the day (I'll be here a couple of hours more). I'm looking forward to reading all of Son!c's ways to get out of being lynched.

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FYI, do not speed lynch Son!c D3, but do lynch him. You need to establish who's likely to be his scumbuddies before ending the day.

Ragian Does this mean you are also caliming a town protective Role ?

[Loose Canon]

Yes Rag EW did do that.

In this game be better than EW.
In chess notation most moves don't have anything beside them - they are considered standard moves for the level of player.
A ? is a seemingly remarkably bad move and a ! is that turned out to be a good move.
Sometime ? and ! and sometimes more than one are used alongside particular moves

I have gone Vote EW !
You have gone Vote Sonic
Sonic has gone Vote EW
I have gone Out of Sonic and Ragian, Ragian is the Mafia !
I have then gone Actually It is Possible however unlikely to Square both Sonic and Ragian as Town Protective and particularly if Halrob is Cop but Mafia Cop, I'm sticking with EW ?!!

Whats your next move - it could be Unvote Sonic Vote EW (for Kong) !

ok FP'd by Rag that was Unvote Ragian - Unvote Ragian Vote EW ! would have been better though.

[Ragian]

I cannot see both Son!c and I being protective roles.

@Chana, yes. I think it should be fairly clear now, so I might as well state it unambiguously: I am a town protective role, and I'm ready to sacrifice myself for town (which is the nature of that role - only usually slightly differently) if we get scum. I will still win with town, and, while I won't be nominated for MoM, I'll find solace in helping town move forward.

@Loose, I don't understand what you're writing. Could you either use a bit more punctuation or something...not trying to be a dick (I just happen to be), but I seriously can't tell if you're asking me something...

[Loose Canon]

I'm saying that maths says out of a choice between you and Sonic as Mafia I would have had to vote you.

I'm not going to repeat all my posts of last 24 hours but their is thought progression in them culminating in you can both be town protective and if so Halrob would be a prime mafia cop suspect with EW.
So join me and vote EW.

[Ragian]

Why don't you just vote me off, then? I seriously don't get it. Neither do I get why you'd have Son!c as town over me, but that's irrelevant and I'm tired of trying to persuade people. It's time to show hands. Vote me off and kill off Son!c D3. I'll be happy to cook you all the pie you'd want.

[chanakam2020]

@Chana, yes. I think it should be fairly clear now, so I might as well state it unambiguously: I am a town protective role, and I'm ready to sacrifice myself for town (which is the nature of that role - only usually slightly differently) if we get scum. I will still win with town, and, while I won't be nominated for MoM, I'll find solace in helping town move forward.

Hm this is becoming interesting now.
Halrob, EW, Sonic, Ragian all 4 claimed town Power Roles.
We know Darin had Protective Role.
It is unlikely 5 out of 9 town have power roles.
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So at least one of Halrob, EW, Sonic, Ragian telling lie.
You 4 should do your election campiangnvery hard to get my precious vote.
I will vote the best lier.
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Ok
@ Ragian: Did you also visit Halrob at N1 as EW said ?
Or
did You Visit Some one else at N1 ?
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[SoN!c]

The classic self-vote as ultimate poker move

If your town claiming to be "the last protective role" you claim you wanna suicide.. That is not helping if you would actually do it as "last protective self claimed role" and i can't see a town Ragian doing this.

What we know: Ragian was not looking broadly at the game at all. Scumplay tends to lock onto one narrative to avoid having to give nuanced reads on everyone else (to avoid the risk of inflicting bad vibes on townies). As scum its better to stay friendy with as many peeps you can be.
So laser-focused pushing only me. That’s not town play, that’s agenda. And well played too with all the things he put in my mouth but which i never ever said. Confronted just now he had to admit two false "quotes"
in just one post

Scum love to pick one target, tunnel hard, and let the rest of the table slide by. That’s exactly what Ragian is doing all game long. A town Ragian should at least weighed claim against the setup possibilities, not acting like it’s impossible from the start, which is the scummy part. And a town Ragian is always sorting multiple players instead to focus on just 1. Ragian is refusing to even consider any alternatives in a game that is called "Fun maffia", which is exactly how scum pushes through a mislynch.

Now he claims he skimmed EW's questions because "he was hiking" You could not have missed EW'posts while you noticed mine.

The only thing that is true is that Ragian says we have to make the most out of D3 to scumhunt to the max. But that same logic sure applies to the rest of D2 aswel Rag.

[Ragian]

@chana, why do you want to know if I visited halrob? Imagine that a town protective role (perhaps?) unable to protect the same player two nights in a row is asked whom they protected the night before. That gives scum a free hit on that player because that player will be without protection the next night. Therefore, the question (as well as EW's questioning me that) gives off a scummy vibe a la, "So, what player cannot be protected N2?"

FP'ed by Son!c's blah blah blah. First I bluff, then it's a bad move. Sheesh, it's getting to a point where it's becoming cringe I mean, thinking that I'm "pushing through a mislynch" when I'm voting myself is quite laughable.

Vote me (and take the bullet D3) or yourself. Preferably the latter.

[Ragian]

I'm off for today. I think it would be good if I just stop typing the rest of D2, so the rest of you can decide. I'm quite sure, though, that Son!c will continue polluting the thread with his, "What scum would do is this and that, while town would never do this and that" nonsense. Hopefully, you can see through the BS.

Toodles!

[SoN!c]

I'm off for today. I think it would be good if I just stop typing the rest of D2, so the rest of you can decide. I'm quite sure, though, that Son!c will continue polluting the thread with his, "What scum would do is this and that, while town would never do this and that" nonsense. Hopefully, you can see through the BS.

Toodles!

Hahaha Ragian your hanging in the ropes and you know it!

Toodles

PS: we still need to find your 2 scumbuddies

[Loose Canon]

Sonic you are wrong to want Rag lynched today - but understandably so.
You were also wrong with your EW is too good a player thing.
I've called you out when your wrong and supported you when the evidence said you in a as straight choice between you and Rag were town.
Its not a straight choice - choosing either is wrong - today at least.

Leap of faith here mate - please vote EW.
You too Rag - please vote EW.

At least challenge my flow of logic if you must stick where you are.

[SoN!c]

Sonic you are wrong to want Rag lynched today - but understandably so.
You were also wrong with your EW is too good a player thing.
I've called you out when your wrong and supported you when the evidence said you in a as straight choice between you and Rag were town.
Its not a straight choice - choosing either is wrong - today at least.

Leap of faith here mate - please vote EW.
You too Rag - please vote EW.

At least challenge my flow of logic if you must stick where you are.

Okay Loose. Lets search elsewhere now.

[Loose Canon]

Sonic I have searched it is EW, I just can't seem to persuade - frustrating but challenging and fun.

[Loose Canon]

Sonic I have searched it is EW, I just can't seem to persuade - frustrating but challenging and fun.

Same as when you and EW were mafia together.

[Loose Canon]

I'm leaving for airport really soon Sonic/Rag/all.

Halrob - Mafia Cop investigated Rag, claims Cop can play it however EW suggests.
EW - Watcher/Moriarty - ensures Mafia eliminates most likely to figure it out if anyone night 1 - Kong
You and Rags - Town Protectives - yes both of you.

Me in this game Town Vanilla / (Wannabe Sherlock Homes)
Other Vanillas wannabe Dr Watsons.

Its elementary my dear friends

[Loose Canon]

The other thing quickly is there were a lot of potential Vanilla Town to Vanilla Town nods including false positives D1(false positive included sonic and Rag - thats why I put Rag as Vanilla Town earlier) .
The strongest positive I saw was from Chana. (could yet be another false positive however strong I guess)

Another thing while I think of it doesn't it simplify to out of 4 non vanilla towns - Sonic, Rag, EW, Halrob - its 2/2 and the 2 town ones are probably Sonic and Rag is my contention.

[Extreme Ways]

Rag's play is exactly how I would play it as scum - until recently at least. It's very likely both visited Halrob and it's indeed 1 scum 1 town and realistically we should eliminate outside of it as the serial killer can go for both slots, aiming to hif mafia.

Wait.
So you did not know (Before Sonics acceptance of visiting Halrob) exactly the number of players and who visited Halrob ?
But you only knew someone visited him & that could be single player or multiple players ?
Am I interpreting your above sentence correctly ?
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I did know exactly that Sonic visited Halrob but decided to reveal my info in a slow manner to see how Sonic and Rag would respond. For me it was never a choice not to reveal since I never thought I'd survive another day and Halrob had at that point said he was roleblocked. If he wasn't roleblocked, of course I wouldnt have revealed my information.

So instead of saying it all in one go, I decided to also include Ragian to see how they would react, knowing that they probably both knew which of the two was tracked. When Ragian got all cagey about it I thought well maybe Rag is the roleblocker, but all I'm sure about now is that there's 1 between Sonic and Rag.

Also Loose, unless you are 100% red-check sure that I am a mafia (which I am not), it's never good to kill in the claims today. If scum has a kills + roleblock, serial killer has a roleblock... you want the most power roles alive, for the best chance of not being completely fucked. This is also a major reason why I dont want to vote in Ragian/Sonic today. Let the serial killer or scum resolve that pairing

[Extreme Ways]

In any case Rag is neither serial killer nor vanilla town? Either mafia roleblocker or doctor. If I have understood Rag's posts correctly.

[Charle]

Vote Count:

Ragian (3) - hjelp, Sonic, Ragian
Kingm (1) - EW
EW (1) - Loose

No Lynch (1) - Devon

11 Alive - 6 Needed for lynch!

[Loose Canon]

EW is mixing truths and lies and helpfulness. Mafia have to.

[halrob64]

I'm still reeling from all the visits I have had, I need to replenish my drinks cabinet

[Loose Canon]

Top 3 town at start of game from a mafia ew assessment.

Kong - killed
Ragian - investigated by mafia cop
Sonic - mafia tracked or mafia watched visiting Halrob.

[chanakam2020]

@chana, why do you want to know if I visited halrob? Imagine that a town protective role (perhaps?) unable to protect the same player two nights in a row is asked whom they protected the night before. That gives scum a free hit on that player because that player will be without protection the next night. Therefore, the question (as well as EW's questioning me that) gives off a scummy vibe a la, "So, what player cannot be protected N2?"

FP'ed by Son!c's blah blah blah. First I bluff, then it's a bad move. Sheesh, it's getting to a point where it's becoming cringe I mean, thinking that I'm "pushing through a mislynch" when I'm voting myself is quite laughable.

Vote me (and take the bullet D3) or yourself. Preferably the latter.

I asked that because now rest of us have to question you four Halrob,EW,Sonic & Ragian power role climers and find a lier out of you four and decide to whom we vote today.
&
Yes now I understood your point and I withdraw that question.
I have to think a way to interrogate you four to find a Bad Boy (or two) out of you four.

Fped by my self