Wunderhill (again) & jarblemagno [cleared and noted]

[mccallan25]

Edited 11/3/08 8:42 pm Eastern Standard Time

Wunderhill
jarblemagno


The accused are suspected of:

Being MultisConducting Secret Diplomacy


Game number(s):

Game 3562495 Term/freestyle Wunderhill goes then jarblemango within moments of each other 2x so far.

Game 3508778 quad/freestyle with three back to back turns. Only 11 attacks on each other.

Game 3494226 standard/freestyle Eight back to back turns when no other player could play a turn. He does start waiting for hours in between playing each turn. But they are still back to back. Only 11 attacks on each other until one was the last standing. ****NEW INFO***This takes place over four days...so the theory by their close school mates is not going to be valid...unless these kids live together...not the times played.

Game 3484430 standard/freestyle Not once did they attack each other.

Game 3475481 standard/freestyle 3 man game where poor schneidster was attacked 97.3 % of the time until elminated. Game took two days and 8 rounds to finish. 9 rounds and two days to finish.

Game 3469778 standard/freestyle 3 man game again. schneidster was attacked 68% of the time.

Game 3462370 Sequential game. A reference to an "extra slot" Which is named Jarblemagno is mentioned by Gabo "2008-10-19 21:18:40 - GaboSub: well i thought i could count on u guys, and i wasnt gonna wiun, so the extra slot let me have more fun (note: extra slots, in various aspects of life, are generally more fun)" In 21 rounds They play within moments of each other 19 times over 5 days.

Game 3441376 Free style game in 9 rounds they managed t play back to back 10 times. Almost always sequential as always.

Game 3437960 Freestyle 3 player game/8 rounds/8 back to back turns. Until they take out the other live person then for some reason he does a marathon game. This happened when I first called the multi hunters to their attention.



Comments: Jarble has only spoke once in all of the games. He's a clear multi played by Wunderhill. Yes there are several other live people and they are all friends. There's too many back to back plays for someone not sitting at the same computer. They do not attack each other unless forced to. One never speaks. The friends all carry on conversations except one and there's never reference to his name. Personally I think they should all be busted for Collusion.

[mccallan25]

Add another game

Game 3548562

Again you see Jarblemagno going after or before wunderhill within minutes... Of course so does Garbo.

[Hennessy89]

I personally know both Liam, (Wunderhill) and Rowan(jarblemagno) and I attest that they are not a multi. I know they hang out a lot, so maybe the reason they sign in right after each other is because one if them is over the others house. Whatever the case is I know for a fact that they are two different people.

[B-nice]

I know them both as well, they're separate people. Liam and Rowan live near eachother and are usually at one or the others house. It's not a multi, as for lack of team chatting, couldnt that just be because the other had already proposed an idea?
Regardless, I have seen both of these people in the flesh and will vouch for their individual identities.

[GaboSub]

I can also vouch for them being separate people. They are always together because Liam goes to school right by Rowan's house and and they are friends. Makes sense, I think. Also, Schneidster is another friend of ours (named Max) and so I'm sure there was no secret diplomacy and if there was, if he isn't complaining about it, you shouldn't either.

[mccallan25]

Then they are guilty of collusion as several of you are then. Since you attack one and then the next in concert. Not to mention the "Slot"(who is jarblemagno) that you(gabo) had to play and were happy about in one game. Too many turns are taken with in seconds of each other and I bet from the same IP which we will soon find out. There's no way to seperate the facts then so a perm-a-bam is required. The records show what has happened you cannot change them.

Too many of the turns are back to back to back. Not being just two players. A lot of the time being three.

Since none of the people "vouching" have real memberships there's nothing to attest for you being a "real" person anyways. You could actually just be one huge multi. Of course that is doubtful. Never the less the games I have cited show multiple occurences of collusion in attacking certain players and not attacking each other when they were right next to each other. A ban on playing except as team mates is in order.

Not to mention all of the above 3 "Vouches" are with in minutes of each other.

[naes41091]

I know Rowan, Liam, and every other person posting here defending Jablemango. We are all friend and have known eachothr for multiple years. The reason our posts are so close together is because we heard about this and wanted to help out our friend so he doesn't get banned from this game. If you want to talk to a real person, I'd be willing to take this up in email, or on the phone. The way this has escalated seems a bit much to me. I will prove to you they are different people, and that we are not a multi in any way I can.

[jarblemagno]

Me and Liam live 4.4 miles from each other, we hang out very often. Hence the close time turn taking, we are often bored, so conquor club is something that we check pretty often, and any games that were finished turn after turn, was because it was me him, and sometimes schneidster, just finishing one when all members were present at the same place at the same time.
As we are often playing from the same computer, it's hard not to know what the other is up to, but spaking for myself, do as much as I can to keep my plans from him. If there is anything that would qualify as secret diplomacy going on, it is not intentional and I sincerely apologize.
Hennessy89 has a premium account and has attested to both of our existence, if you need more proof, we both made moves within minutes of each other from separate IP addresses in our North America earlier today. What sort of proof is necessary, or has the testimony already supplied sufficient?

[jarblemagno]

I also just noticed that you mentioned that I never make comments in the chat, that is mostly true, up until recently I never bothered to scroll down to the chat, I never read it, I never posted, it was a non issue. I understand how damning the circumstances are, but I'm not sure what else I can say or do to show you the truth. would you like me to take a picture of us? or would you like to speak with us on the phone to verify that there are two people?
I really love this game, it's one of my favorite things to do, just tell me what I have to do to be able to continue playing.

[GaboSub]

Plus, genius, in Game 3462370 the extra slot I was talking about it the extra game slot I get if i get eliminated. Us non-paying folks only get 4 games at a time (not that I'm complaining). And we each refer to Rowan, myself doing so several times. You're an idiot who's looking to make trouble where there is none.

[lancehoch]

Hey guys, watch the name calling. mccallan25 saw something suspicious, so he reported it. There is nothing wrong with this.

[Hennessy89]

Okay Gabo was getting a little aggressive, but he's just upset like all of us are that our friends might be wrongly banned. Can we please get some feedback as to wether or not our friends are going to be banned for mccallan25 false accusation or not.

[GaboSub]

This is the 2nd time it has happened to groups of my friends (first time was a different incident) and I just think that it's absolutely ridiculous that people are looking to rat others out, especially when the evidence they provide does NOT present a good argument. I also don't see why you don't just give us, all of these kids' friends, the benefit of the doubt. It seems pointless to argue over something as trivial as this -- a game of risk!! Get lives.

[naes41091]

Just how each of us type differently shows that we're not the same person, I think. In my opinion, I think that we should all be able to accept that no one here is breaking the rules, and no one has any intention to. If friends can't hop on conquer club to take their turn in a game when they're hanging out, that's a serious problem I think. let's just forget this happened.

[stoutdude04]

Game 3469778 standard/freestyle 3 man game again. schneidster was attacked 68% of the time.

Schneidster won the game. I am guessing he had the most ters as well as being the strongest throughout.

[jarblemagno]

thank you stoutdude04.
we did in fact max slightly more that game because he was dominating much of the game

Game 3562495 Term/freestyle Wunderhill goes then jarblemango within moments of each other 2x so far.
REPLY: HE WAS OVER AT MY HOUSE, TAKING TURNS ON CONCUER CLUB AND TRIBALWARS, AND WATCHING A MOVIE

Game 3508778 quad/freestyle with three back to back turns. Only 11 attacks on each other.
REPLY: AGAIN, OVER AT MY PLACE, ON DIFFERENT TEAMS. ALSO, HE ATTACKED ME 33 PERCENT OF THE TIME(MORE THAN ANY OTHER PLAYER) AND I ATTACKED HIM 50 PERCENT OF THE TIME, ALSO A PRIVATE GAME AMONG FRIENDS HOSTED BY SHANE(HENESSY89)

Game 3494226 standard/freestyle Eight back to back turns when no other player could play a turn. He does start waiting for hours in between playing each turn. But they are still back to back. Only 11 attacks on each other until one was the last standing. ****NEW INFO***This takes place over four days...so the theory by their close school mates is not going to be valid...unless these kids live together...not the times played.
REPLY: I ONLY HAVE ONE COMPUTER IN MY ROOM AND WE TAKE TURNS, LIKE PLAYING RISK.

Game 3484430 standard/freestyle Not once did they attack each other.
REPLY:BECAUSE WE NEVER HAD TROOPS IN PLACES THAT WE WERE GOING FOR, AND GABO(GABOSUB) TOOK US OUT BEFORE WE CAME IN CONTACT

Game 3475481 standard/freestyle 3 man game where poor schneidster was attacked 97.3 % of the time until elminated. Game took two days and 8 rounds to finish. 9 rounds and two days to finish.
REPLY: I ATTACKED MAX(SCHNEIDSTER) 56% OF THE TIME, WHAT MATH ARE YOU USING( MAX 9 TIMES AND LIAM 7), THE MOTHERFUCKER KEPT ATTACKING ME

Game 3469778 standard/freestyle 3 man game again. schneidster was attacked 68% of the time.
REPLY:COVERED BEFORE, YEAH HE WON

Game 3462370 Sequential game. A reference to an "extra slot" Which is named Jarblemagno is mentioned by Gabo "2008-10-19 21:18:40 - GaboSub: well i thought i could count on u guys, and i wasnt gonna wiun, so the extra slot let me have more fun (note: extra slots, in various aspects of life, are generally more fun)" In 21 rounds They play within moments of each other 19 times over 5 days.
REPLY:GABO TACKLED THAT ONE

Game 3441376 Free style game in 9 rounds they managed t play back to back 10 times. Almost always sequential as always.
REPLY:TAKING TURNS

Game 3437960 Freestyle 3 player game/8 rounds/8 back to back turns. Until they take out the other live person then for some reason he does a marathon game. This happened when I first called the multi hunters to their attention.
REPLY: MAX AND LIAM WERE OVER, WE WERE UP LATE AND DECIDED TO FINISH IT UP, I THINK WE WERE ALSO PLAYING A GAME OF RISK IN 3D AS WELL

[Debbs]

I vouch for these clowns. We are just a tight group of friends. Is there anything wrong with that?

[mccallan25]

It's nice to see an explanation of all the suspicious moves.

It appears I must be wrong. I have changed my mind not from the explanations since the outcome of those did not change but from the different grammar and intonations of those pleading the defense. The passion of youth and conviction is heard in the plea and trust me when I say I have heard a few pleas of defense in my life. Sincere apologies.

[jarblemagno]

Thank You

[naes41091]

Thanks for ending it. Sorry if any hostilities were caused.

[Megadeth666]

It's not over till is over, this is still Pending, all you guys could still be multis/secret shit

For all we know ,you are all one of maxatstuy buddies.

[jarblemagno]

Why you gotta be a dick? No one asked for you.

[Jeff Hardy]

Me and Liam live 4.4 miles from each other, we hang out very often. Hence the close time turn taking, we are often bored, so conquor club is something that we check pretty often, and any games that were finished turn after turn, was because it was me him, and sometimes schneidster, just finishing one when all members were present at the same place at the same time.
As we are often playing from the same computer, it's hard not to know what the other is up to, but spaking for myself, do as much as I can to keep my plans from him. If there is anything that would qualify as secret diplomacy going on, it is not intentional and I sincerely apologize.
Hennessy89 has a premium account and has attested to both of our existence, if you need more proof, we both made moves within minutes of each other from separate IP addresses in our North America earlier today. What sort of proof is necessary, or has the testimony already supplied sufficient?

that does sound pretty damn convincing

[Megadeth666]

Why you gotta be a dick? No one asked for you.

Your just cheating in a different way, you and your buddies playing in games and getting points, just like our good friend Max , way to go!!!

[jarblemagno]

Am I missing something, or do you just not know how to form a coherent sentence?
I don't cheat, and I'm offended by your unfounded accusations.
Speak more clearly or keep your opinions to yourself.
Again, why is this any of your business?