And so the Cheating Continues [block]

[kratos644]

max shut up--your just another one of those teenagers that has nothing bettter to do then bitch about other people, get a life

Max I thought you said Dat agreed that Scott and Bruce are up to something? Obviously he doesn't. Theres another argument down the drain

[maxatstuy]

max shut up--your just another one of those teenagers that has nothing bettter to do then bitch about other people, get a life

Max I thought you said Dat agreed that Scott and Bruce are up to something? Obviously he doesn't. Theres another argument down the drain

I never said once that DAT thought they were cheats, I said they DAT called bruce out for attempting to gift a game to scott. His own personal opinions has absolutely nothing to do with his thoughts on their actions in the one particular game which I sited. He himself called bruce out on attempting to gift the game to scott and that is all I said...clearly this you have not been reading the links as you have claimed or you would have known that I was refrencing his comments in that one game, nothing more.

[maxatstuy]

2008-10-19 01:02:11 - Bruceswar assaulted Dali from Magritte and conquered it from something_fierce
2008-10-19 01:02:12 - Bruceswar assaulted Kline from Rothko and conquered it from something_fierc

you quoted the game logs from when it showed that bruce only took 1 second to switch fronts, yet in 10 seconds where you were taking forever as well, bruce was not able to make one attack, and let you win. That is not you playing well, that is Bruce choosing to give you the game.

For the record Max this is not considered changing fronts. This is attacking in a line. Changing front is when you have to click on a completely different territory which, takes much longer than a straight line attack. So saying it took him only 1 sec to switch fronts here is invalid because he was not switching fronts. It took Bruce 1 second to attack yes but I can do that too. There was no switching of fronts just a plain old straight line attack so get your facts straight before you use them to argue your case or they might come back at you. You also didn't add the rest of this quote showing Bruce was going at 1 per second the entire time he didn't try to wait so Scott could take the kill. So you're not reading carefully and you're tampering with your so called "evidence" so that you may use it. Real convincing argument. If you would read each word and attempt to comprehend it then maybe you would understand it a little better. Yes again I'm saying you aren't comprehending things; well, it's because you aren't. Plain and simple

There is no difference between game log quote and the "changing fronts" in the game which you are refrencing. Bruce attacked one territory and in ten seconds he didnt attack another territoy 5-1 which was adjacent to the territory he had just attacked with.

Furthermore, in your comments about the 50 links from the other thread, while you were basing your comments on the things which occured before the kill was made, you never looked at the placement of territories which each person had. I know that when the list was created, not only was the person who made the attack considered, but King looked at the logs and read which territories were attacked after the kill from which player, allowing him to determine who had what territory before the kill. In almost all of the cases, it was bruce who bordered the territories and who was virtually protecting scott as he made the kill.

[maxatstuy]

max shut up--your just another one of those teenagers that has nothing bettter to do then bitch about other people, get a life

No DAT, I am just another one of those teenagers that has nothing "bettter" to do than to bitch about other people cheating.

[comic boy]

max shut up--your just another one of those teenagers that has nothing bettter to do then bitch about other people, get a life

No DAT, I am just another one of those teenagers that has nothing "bettter" to do than to bitch about other people cheating.

All you have to do to find a cheat is look in a mirror !

[kratos644]

2008-10-19 01:02:11 - Bruceswar assaulted Dali from Magritte and conquered it from something_fierce
2008-10-19 01:02:12 - Bruceswar assaulted Kline from Rothko and conquered it from something_fierc

you quoted the game logs from when it showed that bruce only took 1 second to switch fronts, yet in 10 seconds where you were taking forever as well, bruce was not able to make one attack, and let you win. That is not you playing well, that is Bruce choosing to give you the game.

For the record Max this is not considered changing fronts. This is attacking in a line. Changing front is when you have to click on a completely different territory which, takes much longer than a straight line attack. So saying it took him only 1 sec to switch fronts here is invalid because he was not switching fronts. It took Bruce 1 second to attack yes but I can do that too. There was no switching of fronts just a plain old straight line attack so get your facts straight before you use them to argue your case or they might come back at you. You also didn't add the rest of this quote showing Bruce was going at 1 per second the entire time he didn't try to wait so Scott could take the kill. So you're not reading carefully and you're tampering with your so called "evidence" so that you may use it. Real convincing argument. If you would read each word and attempt to comprehend it then maybe you would understand it a little better. Yes again I'm saying you aren't comprehending things; well, it's because you aren't. Plain and simple

There is no difference between game log quote and the "changing fronts" in the game which you are refrencing. Bruce attacked one territory and in ten seconds he didnt attack another territoy 5-1 which was adjacent to the territory he had just attacked with.

Furthermore, in your comments about the 50 links from the other thread, while you were basing your comments on the things which occured before the kill was made, you never looked at the placement of territories which each person had. I know that when the list was created, not only was the person who made the attack considered, but King looked at the logs and read which territories were attacked after the kill from which player, allowing him to determine who had what territory before the kill. In almost all of the cases, it was bruce who bordered the territories and who was virtually protecting scott as he made the kill.

I was referencing Game 3511099 thats where Bruce "sat around." Read the game logs this is way different from what scott posted and I quoted him on that was a straight line attack no front changes involved at all. In the previously mentioned game Bruce had to change fronts for the attack. He didn't just stop his dice bricked from the way he was going and Scott followed him in as a result. Before you go telling me that these two scenarios are no different do a little more research and maybe learn what it means to change fronts. Do you happen to know what a front change is? Just curious. And I'm sorry if I were to review the logs that extensively then it would take me hours on end it already took long enough to get a general idea but to review every minute detail would take a ridiculous amount of time that I don't have. If you want to try and convince me game logs won't do the trick. Send me a pm when they're playing and I'll watch the game from start to finish and make my own assessment. As of now my ruling is still not guilty.

[kratos644]

max shut up--your just another one of those teenagers that has nothing bettter to do then bitch about other people, get a life

Max I thought you said Dat agreed that Scott and Bruce are up to something? Obviously he doesn't. Theres another argument down the drain

I never said once that DAT thought they were cheats, I said they DAT called bruce out for attempting to gift a game to scott. His own personal opinions has absolutely nothing to do with his thoughts on their actions in the one particular game which I sited. He himself called bruce out on attempting to gift the game to scott and that is all I said...clearly this you have not been reading the links as you have claimed or you would have known that I was refrencing his comments in that one game, nothing more.

Undoubtedly, one of scotts biggest fans is most probably DAT, and even in the last game that bruce and scott played together, it was DAT who called bruce out for attempting to cheat. Granted he didnt call it cheating, but after bruce made a kill, DAT wrote in game chat:

2008-10-19 04:02:47 - DAT_WAT_SHE_SAID: bruce, y leave kline till last, if scott wasnt connectionally retarted he wuda got that

You may not have said exactly that Dat said they were cheating but you most certainly inferred it. You weren't just referencing his comment or you would have just posted it. You were also making your own interpretation of his comment and posting that along with it. I was pointing out that obviously Dat doesn't agree with your interpretation cause he obviously doesn't think they're cheating. He was just pointing out that Bruce is a tard and makes dumb mistakes. And anyway he may have left that last but do you know how well Scott would've had to time his attack so Bruce attacked then Scott would get the final territory? It's not an easy feat to do. That log just shows that Bruce wanted to make a straight line attack instead of a front change attack which I understand completely.

[DAT_WAT_SHE_SAID]

Max all you have pointed out here is that

a) you have nothing better to do with your time
b) Bruce sucks at making kills and scott picks up quite a few
c) That cheaters enjoy calling innocent people cheaters to make them feel better

That example you have of scott stealing a kill is just a textbook steal, scott was faster and more onto it then bruce.
Steals like that happen every day.
Just because you know you will never be as good as scott doesnt mean you should give him a hard time about it.
your opinion matters little anyway, noob farmer

[maxatstuy]

Max all you have pointed out here is that

a) you have nothing better to do with your time
b) Bruce sucks at making kills and scott picks up quite a few
c) That cheaters enjoy calling innocent people cheaters to make them feel better

That example you have of scott stealing a kill is just a textbook steal, scott was faster and more onto it then bruce.
Steals like that happen every day.
Just because you know you will never be as good as scott doesnt mean you should give him a hard time about it.
your opinion matters little anyway, noob farmer

Someone like bruce who takes a territory per second and who was commenting about his new improved internet connection on the last cheating thread created who cant take 1 territory in 10 seconds is not an occurrence that happens every day. Maybe it would if bruce was in more of scotts games, but in any other games a person may watch, I guarantee that will almost NEVER happen. Scotts has a 67% win rate in the 3 games that he and bruce have played together since bruce came back, yet his score declines every time bruce isnt in his game, and has barely won any others without bruce.

I think that the Maxatstuy and maxs account thread is probably a better example of a cheater enjoying calling an innocent person a cheater to make himself feel better though, Scott-Land created it after I posted this

[Scott-Land]

Max all you have pointed out here is that

a) you have nothing better to do with your time
b) Bruce sucks at making kills and scott picks up quite a few
c) That cheaters enjoy calling innocent people cheaters to make them feel better

That example you have of scott stealing a kill is just a textbook steal, scott was faster and more onto it then bruce.
Steals like that happen every day.
Just because you know you will never be as good as scott doesnt mean you should give him a hard time about it.
your opinion matters little anyway, noob farmer

Someone like bruce who takes a territory per second and who was commenting about his new improved internet connection on the last cheating thread created who cant take 1 territory in 10 seconds is not an occurrence that happens every day. Maybe it would if bruce was in more of scotts games, but in any other games a person may watch, I guarantee that will almost NEVER happen. Scotts has a 67% win rate in the 3 games that he and bruce have played together since bruce came back, yet his score declines every time bruce isnt in his game, and has barely won any others without bruce.

I think that the Maxatstuy and maxs account thread is probably a better example of a cheater enjoying calling an innocent person a cheater to make himself feel better though, Scott-Land created it after I posted this

I can't take your illogical thought process anymore. Since we're speaking of this particular game. I explained where the 3 or 4 seconds went- that leaves 6 seconds. Can you at least concede that the error messages from Ontario could cause the problem. If you can't fathom that, especially when you've never even played a game and have absolutely no clue the pressure involved.

Let's go back to my original point. Not attacking from Iceland is irrelevant as he lost a front he was supposed to win from Northwest Terr ! If the dice were marginal, HE MAKES THE KILL. His intent never changed- if he wins that attack he wins the game !

[maxatstuy]

Max all you have pointed out here is that

a) you have nothing better to do with your time
b) Bruce sucks at making kills and scott picks up quite a few
c) That cheaters enjoy calling innocent people cheaters to make them feel better

That example you have of scott stealing a kill is just a textbook steal, scott was faster and more onto it then bruce.
Steals like that happen every day.
Just because you know you will never be as good as scott doesnt mean you should give him a hard time about it.
your opinion matters little anyway, noob farmer

Someone like bruce who takes a territory per second and who was commenting about his new improved internet connection on the last cheating thread created who cant take 1 territory in 10 seconds is not an occurrence that happens every day. Maybe it would if bruce was in more of scotts games, but in any other games a person may watch, I guarantee that will almost NEVER happen. Scotts has a 67% win rate in the 3 games that he and bruce have played together since bruce came back, yet his score declines every time bruce isnt in his game, and has barely won any others without bruce.

I think that the Maxatstuy and maxs account thread is probably a better example of a cheater enjoying calling an innocent person a cheater to make himself feel better though, Scott-Land created it after I posted this

I can't take your illogical thought process anymore. Since we're speaking of this particular game. I explained where the 3 or 4 seconds went- that leaves 6 seconds. Can you at least concede that the error messages from Ontario could cause the problem. If you can't fathom that, especially when you've never even played a game and have absolutely no clue the pressure involved.

Let's go back to my original point. Not attacking from Iceland is irrelevant as he lost a front he was supposed to win from Northwest Terr ! If the dice were marginal, HE MAKES THE KILL. His intent never changed- if he wins that attack he wins the game !

That was possibly his initial intention, but it has no factor on the end result. He lost that front and proceeded on with the kill anyway managing to kill the rest of the other player except for 1 one. Error message or not, it doesnt take 10 seconds to attack on territory. Error messages only come up when tried to attack improperly and hitting "OK" doesnt take 5 seconds. Bruce only messes up when there was one territory left with you being the only one who is there to reek the advantages. This was not the only game where this has occurred and no, it was not an error message which prevented him from winning, it was his desire to boost your score another 70 points

[maxatstuy]

19 Scott-Land 3464 3624 1381 (38%) Brigadier Brigadier 4.7

--Without Bruce

[maxatstuy]

I guess scott is now deranking so that if he gets a point reset, he wont lose many points

thats boring

[Ditocoaf]

This thread should get interesting fast...

if you find ten pages of circular squabbling with little brain activity "interesting."

Have-at-it, guys. Enjoy.

Heh. Do you all feel up for another five? I'll check back with you then.

[Jeff Hardy]

This thread should get interesting fast...

if you find ten pages of circular squabbling with little brain activity "interesting."

Have-at-it, guys. Enjoy.

Heh. Do you all feel up for another five? I'll check back with you then.

ofc

[Dancing Mustard]

So what exactly is this thread all about? People keep talking about it as if it's important, but I can't be bothered to read all ten pages.

Could anybody give me a quick update on what's going on?

[SirSebstar]

yes.

So what exactly is this thread all about? People keep talking about it as if it's important, but I can't be bothered to read all ten pages.

Could anybody give me a quick update on what's going on?

[Dancing Mustard]

I feel that multiple salient details were omitted in your account of proceedings. Perhaps another member could assist me?

[jiminski]

I feel that multiple salient details were omitted in your account of proceedings. Perhaps another member could assist me?

heh well a little more than the last fella anyway.

Max felt that Scotts winning of a disproportionately large number of games with Bruce, in comparison to those without, was suspicious enough to represent cast-iron proof of collusion.

Now of course Max was yesterday busted for the culmination of a long line of Cheating offences (multi-ing, babysitter abuse, chat abuse etc.) as well as being a strange little fellow and heinous point farmer.

I imagine, without its champion, this thread will now be resigned to the attention of the odd necromancer. Though Max's influence reached far and wide; his Palming disciples resolute and vigilant!

[Prankcall]

I'd still like to hear this pending verdict.Numbers don't lie.

[Scott-Land]

I'd still like to hear this pending verdict.Numbers don't lie.

But you sure do !

[maxatstuy]

Has anybody else noticed that Scotts score is directly proportional to the activity on his cheating threads and bruces presence in his games?

Bruce plays with Scott, Scotts score is 5500
Bruce leaves for 2 weeks, Scotts score is 3500
Bruce comes back, Scotts score is 3800
Cheating thread created, Scotts score is 3300
Thread activity declines and I no longer have the ability of commenting on his cheating, Scotts score is 3800 once again

I have already witnessed one instance of bruce trying to throw a game to Scott and later today I will try to post it.

[nagerous]

It's good that these throwing of games get a proper investigation. Keep up the good work, hopefully cheaters like scott-land can get their penance.

[Scott-Land]

It's good that these throwing of games get a proper investigation. Keep up the good work, hopefully cheaters like scott-land can get their penance.

Just because I think you're a tool, doesn't give you the right to call me a cheater with nothing to back up the accusation. Go on with yourself.

[nagerous]

It's good that these throwing of games get a proper investigation. Keep up the good work, hopefully cheaters like scott-land can get their penance.

Just because I think you're a tool, doesn't give you the right to call me a cheater with nothing to back up the accusation. Go on with yourself.

You only think I'm a tool in the first place because of me accusing you of cheating.... remember? Or do you not, I can always re-post the games of you and prankcall colluding and throwing games for each other because you "owed" each other games... that case is still pending last time I checked.

In fact the only times you've made reference to me is in direct response to my accusations against you.

search.php?keywords=nagerous&terms=all&author=scott-land&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

that should refresh your memory, mate.