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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:58 pm

Still waiting for something relevant- as usual nothing.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:10 pm

Scott-Land wrote:Still waiting for something relevant- as usual nothing.
dont make me go through your games [-X 8-)
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Scott-Land on Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:39 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Still waiting for something relevant- as usual nothing.
dont make me go through your games [-X 8-)


Please do...
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby maxatstuy on Sun Nov 02, 2008 9:56 pm

Scott-Land wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Still waiting for something relevant- as usual nothing.
dont make me go through your games [-X 8-)


Please do...


Or he can just review the 50+ links already provided, your amazing score fluctuation, and the distinct patterns which arise every time you played in games against bruce, or without him.

your cheating is very obvious, and while you may have stopped now, (since this thread is pending,) as you realize that if you dont stop you will be busted, if the mods dont do something about your cheating, it will just start up again the moment this thread is closed.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Scott-Land on Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:05 pm

Damn you're back- too bad they didn't ban you.... busted does the rest of us no good.

p.s. Thanks for stalking me again- shows me how worthless you are. I wonder if I fill out a cheat thread, they can make you stop? It was cute there for awhile but now it's just freaky!
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby maxatstuy on Sun Nov 02, 2008 10:13 pm

Scott-Land wrote:Damn you're back- too bad they didn't ban you.... busted does the rest of us no good.

p.s. Thanks for stalking me again- shows me how worthless you are. I wonder if I fill out a cheat thread, they can make you stop? It was cute there for awhile but now it's just freaky!


ROFLMAO...youre posting on the thread with I created, trying to divert the conversation, once again, off of your cheating, at the same time as calling me a stalker for posting on the thread which I created

Thats Great :lol:
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Scott-Land on Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:14 am

maxatstuy wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Damn you're back- too bad they didn't ban you.... busted does the rest of us no good.

p.s. Thanks for stalking me again- shows me how worthless you are. I wonder if I fill out a cheat thread, they can make you stop? It was cute there for awhile but now it's just freaky!


ROFLMAO...youre posting on the thread with I created, trying to divert the conversation, once again, off of your cheating, at the same time as calling me a stalker for posting on the thread which I created

Thats Great :lol:


I was referring to you stalking every speed game I play- problems with comprehension again I see.

btw- nice of you to say that Bruce is no longer throwing me games. Quite odd, that you know when it starts and when it stops at your own convenience. Going by your logic, after recently cleared and no longer caring about maintaining Conqueror; Bruce would intentional throw games to me then stop because you created a thread in GD that Clapper moved to C&A?

It seems to me, as it always been, another shot at your cheap tactics and childish attempts to cause more problems for me. Quite obvious it wasn't your intent to accuse me when you created this thread.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby maxatstuy on Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:45 pm

Scott-Land wrote:
maxatstuy wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Damn you're back- too bad they didn't ban you.... busted does the rest of us no good.

p.s. Thanks for stalking me again- shows me how worthless you are. I wonder if I fill out a cheat thread, they can make you stop? It was cute there for awhile but now it's just freaky!


ROFLMAO...youre posting on the thread with I created, trying to divert the conversation, once again, off of your cheating, at the same time as calling me a stalker for posting on the thread which I created

Thats Great :lol:


I was referring to you stalking every speed game I play- problems with comprehension again I see.

btw- nice of you to say that Bruce is no longer throwing me games. Quite odd, that you know when it starts and when it stops at your own convenience. Going by your logic, after recently cleared and no longer caring about maintaining Conqueror; Bruce would intentional throw games to me then stop because you created a thread in GD that Clapper moved to C&A?

It seems to me, as it always been, another shot at your cheap tactics and childish attempts to cause more problems for me. Quite obvious it wasn't your intent to accuse me when you created this thread.


Actually, ambiguity is the responsibility of the writer to correct, not the responsibility of the reader to understand, hence it is not a problem with my comprehension, but your inability to write properly.

One difference between you and a rational thinking person, would be the understanding that the initial intention of the poster has NOTHING to do with content which the post contains. You never stopped caring about your score, you just learned that without bruce you couldnt maintain it, so now that you are being accused to cheating, you are making excuses for your inability to play on your own. Bruce stopped throwing you games from the moment the thread started to say pending.

If it is the case that bruce wasnt throwing you games, why dont you just get back to conqueror by playing 8-player speed games without joining in games with him?
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Frop on Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:09 pm

Max, accusing Bruce of throwing games to Scott and providing games as evidence will suffice. You really need to work on your causality however as his score drop and/or reluctance to rise the ranks again has nothing to do with said accusation. It doesn't really help your case either.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Jeff Hardy on Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:11 pm

Frop wrote:Max, accusing Bruce of throwing games to Scott and providing games as evidence will suffice. You really need to work on your causality however as his score drop and/or reluctance to rise the ranks again has nothing to do with said accusation. It doesn't really help your case either.

do you agree with max that bruce is throwing games then?
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Megadeth666 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:32 pm

Either way Max is using the system to cheat, and all of you are responding to his so called "intellect" ...ya he is smart to trick newbies to play, and ya he is smart ,to have all you guys respond to his fvcked up intelligent reasoning .....That's what he thrives on, So keep on telling him he is wrong/right , there is not stopping his cheating.....but there could be a stop to him acting like he owns all of you.

In a nut shell : keep telling him what he wants to hear, and he will keep telling you thats it is ok to cheat, I am sure he will copy/paste my thing, but thats what he wants....more attention, and the more he get the more power he feels.SO QUIT RESPONDING TO HIS FVCKED UP THREAD THAT HE CREATED

Good Luck in the thread you started Max
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Frop on Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:39 pm

Jeff Hardy wrote:
Frop wrote:Max, accusing Bruce of throwing games to Scott and providing games as evidence will suffice. You really need to work on your causality however as his score drop and/or reluctance to rise the ranks again has nothing to do with said accusation. It doesn't really help your case either.

do you agree with max that bruce is throwing games then?

No, I don't know enough about freestyle speed to come to any conclusion at all. I do believe that Max (or anyone else for that matter) has the right to accuse someone of cheating, as long as he provides sufficient motivation and/or evidence. Bickering without end does not speed up the process however.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Frop on Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:43 pm

Megadeth666 wrote:Either way Max is using the system to cheat, and all of you are responding to his so called "intellect" ...ya he is smart to trick newbies to play, and ya he is smart ,to have all you guys respond to his fvcked up intelligent reasoning .....That's what he thrives on, So keep on telling him he is wrong/right , there is not stopping his cheating.....but there could be a stop to him acting like he owns all of you.

In a nut shell : keep telling him what he wants to hear, and he will keep telling you thats it is ok to cheat, I am sure he will copy/paste my thing, but thats what he wants....more attention, and the more he get the more power he feels.

Good Luck in the thread you started Max

Delightfully off topic.

You couldn't possibly come off more stupid, but you just had to add the proverbial cherry on top by referring to Max's 'intellect' and 'fooked up intelligent reasoning'. Classic.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Megadeth666 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:45 pm

KEEP THE THREAD GOING FROP WTG...LOL
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby maxatstuy on Wed Nov 05, 2008 6:59 pm

Frop wrote:Max, accusing Bruce of throwing games to Scott and providing games as evidence will suffice. You really need to work on your causality however as his score drop and/or reluctance to rise the ranks again has nothing to do with said accusation. It doesn't really help your case either.


While I agree that Scotts hesitancy to try for conqueror again is not pertinent to his cheating, I was referring to his inability to play successfully without bruce helping him, and that is very relevant. Scotts point drop and point increases do have to do with his cheating though, as they are representative of his ability to play during the periods where he was alone, playing for himself without the help of bruce or anyone else.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby stoutdude04 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:38 pm

Max, honest question. Why do you care? Seems silly and trivial to me.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby maxatstuy on Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:02 pm

stoutdude04 wrote:Max, honest question. Why do you care? Seems silly and trivial to me.


Thats like asking me why I care about my score or about this site...I resent that someone who so clearly abused the rules is getting away with having won over 3700 ill won points. People may call the games I play cheap, but I took the time to specifically find each game, and took the risk of possibly running into a mutli or a noob with amazing luck. Scott joins 8-player games against respectable players and steals their points by having Bruce toss him wins. What he does is not right and should not be condoned; and I resent that despite his obvious cheating, he has the audacity to gloat about becoming conqueror when without the inclusion of the points won with bruce, he would have been battling for the last spot on the scoreboard, not the first.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby stoutdude04 on Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:22 pm

I guess thats what I dont get. Why do you care about your score so much. Do you get something for being conqueror? I guess, get to the top, no matter what it takes. Im guessing it is pretty fun winning 3 round deadbeat matches or 5 round routes. Seems logical.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby nagerous on Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:04 pm

Lets not focus on maxastuy and his record and concentrate on the fact that Scott-land has a big record of people in 8 player speed games assisting him in getting a win, which is in direct violation of CC rules.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby hwhrhett on Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:28 pm

nagerous wrote:Lets not focus on maxastuy and his record and concentrate on the fact that Scott-land has a big record of people in 8 player speed games assisting him in getting a win, which is in direct violation of CC rules.



but why would scott cheat? hes really good.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby maxatstuy on Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:35 pm

hwhrhett wrote:
nagerous wrote:Lets not focus on maxastuy and his record and concentrate on the fact that Scott-land has a big record of people in 8 player speed games assisting him in getting a win, which is in direct violation of CC rules.



but why would scott cheat? hes really good.


Because he isnt really good when bruce is not there throwing him the games; which is why scott doesnt do well when hes not playing with bruce; which is why scott deranked 2000 points when bruce left for two weeks and started to gain points when bruce came back; which is why scott won 3700 points by playing games with bruce; which is why scott is a cheat.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby hwhrhett on Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:59 pm

maxatstuy wrote:
hwhrhett wrote:
nagerous wrote:Lets not focus on maxastuy and his record and concentrate on the fact that Scott-land has a big record of people in 8 player speed games assisting him in getting a win, which is in direct violation of CC rules.



but why would scott cheat? hes really good.


Because he isnt really good when bruce is not there throwing him the games; which is why scott doesnt do well when hes not playing with bruce; which is why scott deranked 2000 points when bruce left for two weeks and started to gain points when bruce came back; which is why scott won 3700 points by playing games with bruce; which is why scott is a cheat.



naw really, ive played scott a bunch, hes really good.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby maxatstuy on Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:11 am

hwhrhett wrote:
maxatstuy wrote:
hwhrhett wrote:
nagerous wrote:Lets not focus on maxastuy and his record and concentrate on the fact that Scott-land has a big record of people in 8 player speed games assisting him in getting a win, which is in direct violation of CC rules.



but why would scott cheat? hes really good.


Because he isnt really good when bruce is not there throwing him the games; which is why scott doesnt do well when hes not playing with bruce; which is why scott deranked 2000 points when bruce left for two weeks and started to gain points when bruce came back; which is why scott won 3700 points by playing games with bruce; which is why scott is a cheat.



naw really, ive played scott a bunch, hes really good.


Let me put it this way, I am not doubting that scott is a decent player and even above average in 8-player speed games, but he is a phenomenal player when bruce is there to assist scott in making a kill and winning the game as occurred in many, if not most, of their games together.
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [pending]

Postby Hotdoggie on Thu Nov 06, 2008 12:42 pm

Still pending? :S

Mods should sort this one way or the other soon...its just dragging out all the argueing
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Re: And so the Cheating Continues [block]

Postby Twill on Fri Nov 07, 2008 9:21 am

King and FP asked me to look into this case.

There is no direct evidence that there is any cheating going on, but there is a statistically significant variation between when bruce is and is not in games with scott.

As such, we are taking the precaution of blocking scott-land and brucewar.

This is NOT proof or a decision that either of these two are cheating, it IS a precautionary measure in case anything is going on.

Case closed, moved.

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