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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:39 pm

Gold Knight wrote:Go for it, way to blacklist yourself against playing some of the better players on this site because now they dont even want to deal with you...

And I really cant think of many respected players that get busted on here, unless your talking about high ranks, and a good lot of them have very little respect from the CC community (not posting any names here... ;) ). Chill out with your accusations, find some decent team mates and maybe these problems wont come up again.
I am not the kind that throws around reports left and right. I have played a long time at CC. Im a freemium with a 1,000 games. I am not in the top click, but dont want to be. A great number of cheaters live at the top of CCs' leaderboard. And if I find again, that 1 out of a 1,000 game where I think cheating might be going on. I will report it, NO MATTER who it is. Plane and simple. Respected players have fallen before. and I am sure that it will happen again. ...So you chill out!
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Postby prismsaber on Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:41 pm

Thanks for the laugh.
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby fishydance on Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:06 am

porkenbeans wrote:Im a freemium with a 1,000 games. I am not in the top click, but dont want to be. A great number of cheaters live at the top of CCs' leaderboard. And if I find again, that 1 out of a 1,000 game where I think cheating might be going on. I will report it, NO MATTER who it is. Plane and simple. Respected players have fallen before. and I am sure that it will happen again. ...So you chill out!


In addition to the spell checker, get a math book. The 940 games you've played doesn't add up to one thousand.
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby e_i_pi on Tue Nov 11, 2008 7:39 am

Hey, I played a trips game against Scott-Land, PriestVallon, and laddida. They beat me. Can I get my points back?
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby laddida on Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:41 am

by e_i_pi on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:39 am

Hey, I played a trips game against Scott-Land, PriestVallon, and laddida. They beat me. Can I get my points back?
So what do we have to do with this thread :lol: . Also moonsoon greatwhite multies :lol: I know these 2 too well and if one person could win the most honost person on cc award it would be moonsoon.


Edit- Also I would be careful of accusing on this thread. This thread I believe is being abused left and right and the mods are taking the guilty before proven innocent approach. Instead of asking for proof to say your guilty they ask for proof to prove your innocent. Any body can end on here for any stupid reason and they will be punished when they have done nothing wrong at all.
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:21 pm

laddida wrote:
by e_i_pi on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:39 am

Hey, I played a trips game against Scott-Land, PriestVallon, and laddida. They beat me. Can I get my points back?
So what do we have to do with this thread :lol: . Also moonsoon greatwhite multies :lol: I know these 2 too well and if one person could win the most honost person on cc award it would be moonsoon.


Edit- Also I would be careful of accusing on this thread. This thread I believe is being abused left and right and the mods are taking the guilty before proven innocent approach. Instead of asking for proof to say your guilty they ask for proof to prove your innocent. Any body can end on here for any stupid reason and they will be punished when they have done nothing wrong at all.
Well, After getting blasted for my sheer odasity to even think about making a report on G.W, I thought that It may be poss. that I made a mistake. So I did the suggested research. I half expected to find ''Snow white''. Insted I found a ratting that was not too spectacular. With attitude being his major weakness. Not a bad overall ratting, but nothing to brag about either. I then went to his feedback. I found many glowing poss. But whats this, :o 4 negs. and mostly from ''Brass'' players. And there it was, ...A mention of a previous accusation of cheating. ''luns'' who I respect, did mention that G.W. was cleared. But his neg. is very telling. I did not in fact find ''Snowwhite''. My record is whiter than G.Ws'. I have 0 negs. and higher ratting. And this is my first report on anyone. I have 0 accusations against me. He now has at least 2. I did what you all asked and did the research. Now what, Am I supposed to take from that, that, there is no way he could possibly be a cheater. It does not convict him by any means, but, It most certainly does not speak well for his ''Snow white'' rep. that you all seem to have of him. :(
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:25 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
laddida wrote:
by e_i_pi on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:39 am

Hey, I played a trips game against Scott-Land, PriestVallon, and laddida. They beat me. Can I get my points back?
So what do we have to do with this thread :lol: . Also moonsoon greatwhite multies :lol: I know these 2 too well and if one person could win the most honost person on cc award it would be moonsoon.


Edit- Also I would be careful of accusing on this thread. This thread I believe is being abused left and right and the mods are taking the guilty before proven innocent approach. Instead of asking for proof to say your guilty they ask for proof to prove your innocent. Any body can end on here for any stupid reason and they will be punished when they have done nothing wrong at all.
Well, After getting blasted for my sheer odasity to even think about making a report on G.W, I thought that It may be poss. that I made a mistake. So I did the suggested research. I half expected to find ''Snow white''. Insted I found a ratting that was not too spectacular. With attitude being his major weakness. Not a bad overall ratting, but nothing to brag about either. I then went to his feedback. I found many glowing poss. But whats this, :o 4 negs. and mostly from ''Brass'' players. And there it was, ...A mention of a previous accusation of cheating. ''luns'' who I respect, did mention that G.W. was cleared. But his neg. is very telling. I did not in fact find ''Snowwhite''. My record is whiter than G.Ws'. I have 0 negs. and higher ratting. And this is my first report on anyone. I have 0 accusations against me. He now has at least 2. I did what you all asked and did the research. Now what, Am I supposed to take from that, that, there is no way he could possibly be a cheater. It does not convict him by any means, but, It most certainly does not speak well for his ''Snow white'' rep. that you all seem to have of him. :(
My next task is to do research on the rest of you. :twisted:
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby moonsoon7 on Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:56 pm

well , i'll try to be somewhat fair here !

i give you credit for good game play & you seem honest enough that you're raising a suspition

but this is actually an accusation !

you said that you'll look more into this & if you're wrong ... etc , sounds honest enough .. but you jumped to "accuse" before you do the research .. which is unfair

i find [in general] to post a cheat thread based on one game -which in itself was contradictory & non conclusive- is too hasty & unfounded

carrying 2 cooks may work sometimes , but i've seen higher ranks who go their way too despite game chat & end up messing up games that should've been won [including myself (not that often i hope).. lol]

although i was uncomfortable at first to hear that i'm "accused" / & astonished to see Greatwhite's name [a player whom i look up to]included as well .. however , i got a great pleasure while reading the posts that covered this thread both methodically & passionately .. i
can't find the words to express my gratitude to all

finally , i've seen other players -that i hold a great esteem for- also accused elsewhere in this forum , yet unfouded & without sound proof or a decent methodical research .. oddly enough , it goes a long way ! Despite the famous principle''innocent till proven guilty"...

P.S. that last post is a review not a research !
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby moonsoon7 on Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:59 pm

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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby fishydance on Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:59 pm

porkenbeans wrote:I have 0 accusations against me. He now has at least 2. I did what you all asked and did the research. Now what, Am I supposed to take from that, that, there is no way he could possibly be a cheater. It does not convict him by any means, but, It most certainly does not speak well for his ''Snow white'' rep. that you all seem to have of him. :(


Be careful - it wouldn't take any time at all for 2 accusations to be lodged against you. Especially when you've threatened to check everyone else out. Such threats invite trouble on your own head. I'd let this issue go and move on. The mods will settle it anyway. There are better things to do with our time (like play more games here at CC)
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Postby Agewen on Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:50 pm

Hmm.. this is terrible...

Because Porks teammates (I being one of them) did not follow his advice.. to the letter that makes us bad players??.. Could it be maybe.. just maybe we dont' spend all day plotting, strategizing or just being a general pain in the .. well you know.. Perhaps we like the game and are casual gamers..

The most funny part of all of this.. is the simple fact.. Pork has had 2 turns with support from both me and Kevin to take 2 little provinces.. yet all he can do is flame everyone in game and out.. sounds to me like someone needs to either relax and play the game because it is a game.. or find something besides computer games to do!!
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:14 pm

moonsoon7 wrote:well , i'll try to be somewhat fair here !

i give you credit for good game play & you seem honest enough that you're raising a suspition

but this is actually an accusation !

you said that you'll look more into this & if you're wrong ... etc , sounds honest enough .. but you jumped to "accuse" before you do the research .. which is unfair

i find [in general] to post a cheat thread based on one game -which in itself was contradictory & non conclusive- is too hasty & unfounded

carrying 2 cooks may work sometimes , but i've seen higher ranks who go their way too despite game chat & end up messing up games that should've been won [including myself (not that often i hope).. lol]

although i was uncomfortable at first to hear that i'm "accused" / & astonished to see Greatwhite's name [a player whom i look up to]included as well .. however , i got a great pleasure while reading the posts that covered this thread both methodically & passionately .. i
can't find the words to express my gratitude to all

finally , i've seen other players -that i hold a great esteem for- also accused elsewhere in this forum , yet unfouded & without sound proof or a decent methodical research .. oddly enough , it goes a long way ! Despite the famous principle''innocent till proven guilty"...

P.S. that last post is a review not a research !
Moon you seem to be a bright chap. I enjoy thoughtful people as yourself, to counteract with. Let me assure you that I am NOT the sort to make wild, accusations or susspisions or reports or whatever the correct term is. I have played many games where I susspected cheating might be going on. This is the first time that I ever decided to make a report. And I honestly, just intended it to be a collabrating report. If a person recieves more than his fair share of said reports, Then the hunters would, THEN, have cause to invesigate. Now I do NOT know if you guys are cheating or not. And if you are not, Then I am TRUELY sorry for infickting the blimmish. I would ask the mods to, erase this thread if its poss. as its original purpose has been filled. :|
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:46 pm

Agewen wrote:Hmm.. this is terrible...

Because Porks teammates (I being one of them) did not follow his advice.. to the letter that makes us bad players??.. Could it be maybe.. just maybe we dont' spend all day plotting, strategizing or just being a general pain in the .. well you know.. Perhaps we like the game and are casual gamers..

The most funny part of all of this.. is the simple fact.. Pork has had 2 turns with support from both me and Kevin to take 2 little provinces.. yet all he can do is flame everyone in game and out.. sounds to me like someone needs to either relax and play the game because it is a game.. or find something besides computer games to do!!
Everything about your comments leads me to believe that you are indeed a multi. A noob wouldnt be flaming his partner. as a matter offact, a noob would not even know what flaming was. ...You are however, doing exactly what a multi. would poss. do.
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:09 pm

fishydance wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:I have 0 accusations against me. He now has at least 2. I did what you all asked and did the research. Now what, Am I supposed to take from that, that, there is no way he could possibly be a cheater. It does not convict him by any means, but, It most certainly does not speak well for his ''Snow white'' rep. that you all seem to have of him. :(


Be careful - it wouldn't take any time at all for 2 accusations to be lodged against you. Especially when you've threatened to check everyone else out. Such threats invite trouble on your own head. I'd let this issue go and move on. The mods will settle it anyway. There are better things to do with our time (like play more games here at CC)
With your last point, I agree. But I must take extreme exception with the glob of crap that preceeded it. YOU, are making threats, NOT me. If you think that you can bully me, It wont work. I have done nothing to be suspected of cheating. Your remarks are childish and retaliatory. :cry:
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby fishydance on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:18 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Everything about your comments leads me to believe that you are indeed a multi. A noob wouldnt be flaming his partner. as a matter offact, a noob would not even know what flaming was. ...You are however, doing exactly what a multi. would poss. do.


Have you ever looked at a players profile when they are logged in? The country that is listed will accurately reflect their location based on the IP they logged in with. If I were to sub for a friend in another country, his/her profile would reflect my country when I'm logged in under their name.

I've witnessed this first hand a number of times. It's also a nifty way of doing a quick check on someone you think isn't who they say they are. So, let's apply this to the 5 people accused of being multis. They have profiles from 3 different countries: United States, Canada, and Saudi Arabia. So watch them closely when they play and you can verify if they are indeed playing from their own country.

As a personal side note, GreatWhite is definitely a Canuck... I live close enough to Canada to know one when I meet one! Moonsoon, on the other hand is no Canadian. He's much too nice to be one, LOL!! (I fully expect you to harass me for that remark, Greatwhite, just don't put me on Foe, okay?)
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:22 pm

fishydance wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:Everything about your comments leads me to believe that you are indeed a multi. A noob wouldnt be flaming his partner. as a matter offact, a noob would not even know what flaming was. ...You are however, doing exactly what a multi. would poss. do.


Have you ever looked at a players profile when they are logged in? The country that is listed will accurately reflect their location based on the IP they logged in with. If I were to sub for a friend in another country, his/her profile would reflect my country when I'm logged in under their name.

I've witnessed this first hand a number of times. It's also a nifty way of doing a quick check on someone you think isn't who they say they are. So, let's apply this to the 5 people accused of being multis. They have profiles from 3 different countries: United States, Canada, and Saudi Arabia. So watch them closely when they play and you can verify if they are indeed playing from their own country.

As a personal side note, GreatWhite is definitely a Canuck... I live close enough to Canada to know one when I meet one! Moonsoon, on the other hand is no Canadian. He's much too nice to be one, LOL!! (I fully expect you to harass me for that remark, Greatwhite, just don't put me on Foe, okay?)
My teamates are both from CANADA,as is moon. THANKS. \:D/ Maybe G.W. has something to discuss with The man in the MOON ? :-k
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby fishydance on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:25 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
fishydance wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:I have 0 accusations against me. He now has at least 2. I did what you all asked and did the research. Now what, Am I supposed to take from that, that, there is no way he could possibly be a cheater. It does not convict him by any means, but, It most certainly does not speak well for his ''Snow white'' rep. that you all seem to have of him. :(


Be careful - it wouldn't take any time at all for 2 accusations to be lodged against you. Especially when you've threatened to check everyone else out. Such threats invite trouble on your own head. I'd let this issue go and move on. The mods will settle it anyway. There are better things to do with our time (like play more games here at CC)
With your last point, I agree. But I must take extreme exception with the glob of crap that preceeded it. YOU, are making threats, NOT me. If you think that you can bully me, It wont work. I have done nothing to be suspected of cheating. Your remarks are childish and retaliatory. :cry:


Oh chill, kid! I'm not threatening you. However, I am pointing out what should be pretty obvious - anyone can report anyone else whenever they want to. Because you stated (and I quote) "My next task is to do research on the rest of you. :twisted: ", you have already thrown down a gauntlet that is liable to be picked up by someone.
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:32 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
fishydance wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:Everything about your comments leads me to believe that you are indeed a multi. A noob wouldnt be flaming his partner. as a matter offact, a noob would not even know what flaming was. ...You are however, doing exactly what a multi. would poss. do.


Have you ever looked at a players profile when they are logged in? The country that is listed will accurately reflect their location based on the IP they logged in with. If I were to sub for a friend in another country, his/her profile would reflect my country when I'm logged in under their name.

I've witnessed this first hand a number of times. It's also a nifty way of doing a quick check on someone you think isn't who they say they are. So, let's apply this to the 5 people accused of being multis. They have profiles from 3 different countries: United States, Canada, and Saudi Arabia. So watch them closely when they play and you can verify if they are indeed playing from their own country.

As a personal side note, GreatWhite is definitely a Canuck... I live close enough to Canada to know one when I meet one! Moonsoon, on the other hand is no Canadian. He's much too nice to be one, LOL!! (I fully expect you to harass me for that remark, Greatwhite, just don't put me on Foe, okay?)
My teamates are both from CANADA. THANKS. \:D/ Maybe G.W. has something to discuss with The man in the MOON ? :-k
I also have taken notice that all the support was for G.W. He might not be at fault here. But I would expect that he will try to get to the bottom of it, for his own rep. Again I would ask you to check my rattings and feedback. Do I look anything like a crackpot ? ....or maybe someone that just might, be owed an apology ?
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Postby fishydance on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:37 pm

porkenbeans wrote:I also have taken notice that all the support was for G.W. He might not be at fault here. But I would expect that he will try to get to the bottom of it, for his own rep. Again I would ask you to check my rattings and feedback. Do I look anything like a crackpot ?


Haven't called you a crackpot, nor do I think you are one. I just think you've made an accusation that isn't correct. Ultimately it will not matter what I think, though. It's the mods who will resolve this.
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Postby hiddendragon on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:44 pm

I KNOW none of these players are multi, in fact they are all great adversaries and mates but I must say...
... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby fishydance on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:46 pm

hiddendragon wrote:but I must say... ... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Here here! That's what we need more :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: less flames!
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Postby laddida on Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:53 pm

laddida wrote:
Also moonsoon greatwhite multies :lol: I know these 2 too well and if one person could win the most honost person on cc award it would be moonsoon.
I wrote in support of both gw and moon. But moon is one of the greatest guys on this site very few like him. And I dont mean that in a gay way :-P
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:01 pm

fishydance wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
fishydance wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:I have 0 accusations against me. He now has at least 2. I did what you all asked and did the research. Now what, Am I supposed to take from that, that, there is no way he could possibly be a cheater. It does not convict him by any means, but, It most certainly does not speak well for his ''Snow white'' rep. that you all seem to have of him. :(


Be careful - it wouldn't take any time at all for 2 accusations to be lodged against you. Especially when you've threatened to check everyone else out. Such threats invite trouble on your own head. I'd let this issue go and move on. The mods will settle it anyway. There are better things to do with our time (like play more games here at CC)
With your last point, I agree. But I must take extreme exception with the glob of crap that preceeded it. YOU, are making threats, NOT me. If you think that you can bully me, It wont work. I have done nothing to be suspected of cheating. Your remarks are childish and retaliatory. :cry:


Oh chill, kid! I'm not threatening you. However, I am pointing out what should be pretty obvious - anyone can report anyone else whenever they want to. Because you stated (and I quote) "My next task is to do research on the rest of you. :twisted: ", you have already thrown down a gauntlet that is liable to be picked up by someone.
First, I am NOT a kid. Second, Have you not been following the thread ? A multi would be doing everything he could to dispute an accusation. Including exposing his multies to do it. Its not a gauntlet, ...Bait maybe
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Re: moonsoon7, beersurfer, Greatwhite, Agewen, kevinator

Postby fishydance on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:16 pm

porkenbeans wrote:Have you not been following the thread ? A multi would be doing everything he could to dispute an accusation. Including exposing his multies to do it.


If that is the case, and they are indeed multis, all five of them would have a multitude of messages posted here. I think I've posted more than all of them combined. :o Guess that must mean I'm a multi too!
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Postby porkenbeans on Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:24 pm

fishydance wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:Have you not been following the thread ? A multi would be doing everything he could to dispute an accusation. Including exposing his multies to do it.


If that is the case, and they are indeed multis, all five of them would have a multitude of messages posted here. I think I've posted more than all of them combined. :o Guess that must mean I'm a multi too!
Actualy, I think that you are a person that has played some games with G.W. And likes him. Nothing wrong with that. And your support is fine. Just leave out the retalitory crap. Thats all. I am not one to be bullied.
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