Ameter (cheating in fog game)

[Alchemistery]

Accused:

Ameter

The accused are suspected of:

deliberately revealing my position in a fog game Speed Game 13361671 costing me the game and when i said not to do so and i would report their cheating was continually attacked in the game by the same player



Game number(s):Speed Game 13361671

[spiesr]

20. Is it against the rules to reveal in game chat an opponent's position or strength in a Fog of War game?

Information or misinformation in game chat is acceptable, however, as with any tactic or strategy, you may be rated by your opponents as they see fit.

[Evil Semp]

Accused:

Ameter

The accused are suspected of:

deliberately revealing my position in a fog game Speed Game 13361671 costing me the game and when i said not to do so and i would report their cheating was continually attacked in the game by the same player



Game number(s):Speed Game 13361671

He did not violate any rules when he revealed your position. The post above shows you the rule. This is CLOSED.

[shoop76]

Its a crappy rule and a cheap tactic to reveal another player's position.

Unfortunately it is a rule so just foe him.

[macbone]

Sorry, but I think it was warranted in this case.

Game 13361671

2013-09-20 06:22:20 - Ameter: hmm
2013-09-20 06:27:53 - Ameter: well green just took ireland
2013-09-20 06:27:56 - Ameter: watch out yellow
2013-09-20 06:28:51 - Alchemistery: blue this is a fog game you cheat
2013-09-20 06:29:11 - Alchemistery: i will now send this log to cc
2013-09-20 06:29:33 - Ameter: is it cheating to talk?
2013-09-20 06:29:47 - Ameter: I'm new to CC, so if it is, I was unaware and I apologize

You took a bonus in a foggy 5-player game. If the other players didn't realize it, they needed to know for their own sake, and your bonus would have popped up in the game log on your next turn, so they'd know where you were anyway. He didn't reveal your other territories to the other players. I think announcing in chat, "Hey, guys, green just took the Ireland bonus," isn't clearly wrong or right.

From Community Guidelines:

Fog of War Games:

Using the game chat to announce where a player's territories and troops may (or may not ) be is NOT against the rules. It may come across as unfair or not in the spirit of the game, but feel free to find strategic applications of this non-rule.

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A case could be made that Ameter's actions were justified. I wouldn't rate him low for doing that to me.

[shoop76]

I'm just saying I disagree with that rule. If you want to see everything on the board play sunny. Keeping troops or bonuses hidden is part of the strategy that is unique to fog. It is unfair when 1 player has to ruin that strategy for another player.

Most players don't do it and I see it as very cheap tactics.