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Re: Baltic Crusades - help, please

Postby Evil DIMwit on Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:30 pm

Well, the GIMP is the classic free Photoshop substitute. I don't really know how to use it well but plenty of people around the Foundry seem to.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - help, please

Postby theBastard on Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:38 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:Well, the GIMP is the classic free Photoshop substitute. I don't really know how to use it well but plenty of people around the Foundry seem to.


thanks. I have GIMP installed, but unfortunately Helix taught me how to work in Photoshop. so GIMP is unknown for me...

but Helix helps me now with this map.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - help, please

Postby MarshalNey on Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:43 pm

Well, if you need any help with GIMP, let me know TB :)
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Re: Baltic Crusades - help, please

Postby ender516 on Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:05 am

There is a package called GIMPshop which puts a Photoshop face on GIMP, but I think it is not the latest version of GIMP, and I have no idea how much it succeeds in emulating Photoshop. Still, it might be worth a look, if it helps you get rolling again.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - help, please

Postby theBastard on Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:27 am

thanks Marshal and Ender.
I think if guy who gived me Photoshop will contact me I will have it again. when no I must learn how to work in GIMP and next my ideas realize by it...
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Re: Baltic Crusades - help, please

Postby Industrial Helix on Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:31 pm

Ok, I'm covering for TB at this time while he searches for a photoshop replacement. Bastard, if you've be kind enough to update your first post...

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Re: Baltic Crusades - help, please

Postby theBastard on Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:29 am

thanks Helix. all borders look fine.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - new version

Postby Evil DIMwit on Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:48 am

Did you follow any particular formula in deciding which bonus area should be worth how much?
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Re: Baltic Crusades - new version

Postby theBastard on Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:19 am

the truth is that I set up them from my head only...
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby Evil DIMwit on Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:10 pm

All right, sorry for leaving your hanging with that question for a bit but I had a busy weekend.

I've gone over the bonuses and for the most part they look all right. They're not all absolutely perfectly balanced, but they don't have to be, since the map is littered with other ways go get bonuses and since there are so many continents. I think you can bring the bonus for Courland up to 2; that sticks out as being a bit undervalued.

You might want to rethink having the standard +3 bonus not apply. First of all, you've got to have at least a +1 bonus. Second of all, from experience with Woodboro, having the player able to deploy fewer troops where they want means that there's less room for strategy and so the game will be much more determined by luck of the drop. So consider raising the minimum to 2 or 3 (though if you want to not give a standard territory bonus beyond that, that's good.
Consider differentiating churches and towns by having one of them give a regular bonus instead of an auto-deploy.

Finally, does Wick connect to Osel?
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby theBastard on Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:48 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:All right, sorry for leaving your hanging with that question for a bit but I had a busy weekend.


it is OK. thanks for your interest and help. busy with job or fun?

Evil DIMwit wrote:I've gone over the bonuses and for the most part they look all right. They're not all absolutely perfectly balanced, but they don't have to be, since the map is littered with other ways go get bonuses and since there are so many continents.


thanks, I severat times edited them by advices.

Evil DIMwit wrote:I think you can bring the bonus for Courland up to 2; that sticks out as being a bit undervalued.


OK. in the older versions it was +2.

Evil DIMwit wrote:You might want to rethink having the standard +3 bonus not apply. First of all, you've got to have at least a +1 bonus. Second of all, from experience with Woodboro, having the player able to deploy fewer troops where they want means that there's less room for strategy and so the game will be much more determined by luck of the drop. So consider raising the minimum to 2 or 3 (though if you want to not give a standard territory bonus beyond that, that's good.


my idea was to build map on auto-deploy, because there is very few these maps and also to simulate importance of castles and towns in medieval era. each player will start with one castle, one city, one town, so at the start will have 6 troops in castle and can attack territory. there are enough manual-deploy bonuses (continents, Hansa towns, pagan+christian symbols)...
for now I want it without +3 bonus.

or is possible to have standard 3 units only at start and during game no?

Evil DIMwit wrote:Consider differentiating churches and towns by having one of them give a regular bonus instead of an auto-deploy.


the towns are part of continents so they brings manual-deploy units if continent is held... and Hanseatic towns have similar bonus as you mentioned: +1 for 2 if player holds also Visby.

Evil DIMwit wrote:Finally, does Wick connect to Osel?


yes, Wiek and Osel make Bishropic of Osel and Wiek.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby Evil DIMwit on Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:44 pm

theBastard wrote:
Evil DIMwit wrote:All right, sorry for leaving your hanging with that question for a bit but I had a busy weekend.


it is OK. thanks for your interest and help. busy with job or fun?
Fun. Went down to Baltimore for the weekend. But that's neither here nor there...


my idea was to build map on auto-deploy, because there is very few these maps and also to simulate importance of castles and towns in medieval era. each player will start with one castle, one city, one town, so at the start will have 6 troops in castle and can attack territory. there are enough manual-deploy bonuses (continents, Hansa towns, pagan+christian symbols)...
for now I want it without +3 bonus.

Well, maybe it'll work for this map. If you think so, then Beta will tell.

or is possible to have standard 3 units only at start and during game no?
No, the only possible way to modify bonuses is according to ownership of territories.

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Evil DIMwit wrote:Finally, does Wick connect to Osel?


yes, Wiek and Osel make Bishropic of Osel and Wiek.

I ask because there's no red line between them on the map.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby theBastard on Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:09 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:Fun. Went down to Baltimore for the weekend. But that's neither here nor there...


I was not in Baltimore or Philadelphia, but when in city populated as all my country is not fun what can we do here :lol:

Evil DIMwit wrote:Well, maybe it'll work for this map. If you think so, then Beta will tell.


I do not know. I never did any map...

Evil DIMwit wrote:No, the only possible way to modify bonuses is according to ownership of territories.


hm, than when Beta will tell it needs standard bonus it could be as you said +1 or +2...

Evil DIMwit wrote:I ask because there's no red line between them on the map.


sorry, I did not understand you. I though you ask if they made continent. no they are not connected (as Principality of Rugen also).
I had broken my right hand (4-5 month ago) and now I have wrong adherent knucklebone of the thumb. therefore I have some problems with it and I must end my works on maps.sorry my english
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby Evil DIMwit on Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:09 am

Well, I've got no other complaints. Make any changes to the map you want now (or tell me that you aren't) and I'll go ahead and sticky this thread.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby theBastard on Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:44 pm

Evil DIMwit wrote:Well, I've got no other complaints. Make any changes to the map you want now (or tell me that you aren't) and I'll go ahead and sticky this thread.


sometimes the updating of map takes any time because my copy of Photoshop was crashed and I wait for new one. Industrial Helix helps me with updating, but he has fingers in much projects. thanks him for his help.

just to know :)
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Aug 07, 2010 2:15 pm

Took me long enough...

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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby theBastard on Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:01 pm

Helix, sorry my bad eyes, but I can not see any difference.
the point recomended by Evil was to change bonus for Lordship of Courland in legend from +1 to +2.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:49 pm

Heh... whoops. I went to change it and then had a text problem, so that distracted me, and then I typed it out the same. D'oh... I guess its another two weeks for an update :(
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:55 pm

Or about five minutes for an update...

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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up

Postby theBastard on Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:02 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:Or about five minutes for an update...


you are great :D . thanks

so Evil, now I think is everything done. or everything what you recomended and I want to change...
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up, changes done

Postby Evil DIMwit on Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:02 pm

Well, I don't see any other issues with it so I'll sticky it and see if anyone else catches something.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up, changes done

Postby The Bison King on Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:58 pm

BTW I know I've been silent on this thread before, because I was so far behind on the conversation. I just want to say that I think this map looks great and I'll be following it through graphics.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up, changes done

Postby danfrank on Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:39 pm

i voted yes... Looks good so far .. Keep up the good work . i like the gameplay idea and the pastel look :)
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up, changes done

Postby Evil DIMwit on Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:07 pm

Looks like people are into it. Proceed.
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Re: Baltic Crusades - bonuses set up, changes done

Postby theBastard on Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:53 am

thanks guys for kind words.
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