South Africa 1885

by **MrBenn** on Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:11 pm

Industrial Helix wrote:http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5340/southafrica17large.jpg

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/373/southafrica17small.jpg

MrBenn wrote:I read something about Gilligan trying to update some XML? Or did I imagine that?

Gilligan wrote:http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/11/14/2187148//SouthAfrica4.xml

by **Industrial Helix** on Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:26 pm

Something is f'd up with the xml positioning. Everything is over about two number spaces to the right.

EDIT: Apparently its only on the large version of the map.

by **Gilligan** on Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:05 pm

Sigh...what happened there...I didn't touch any coordinates when changing Levdenburg

by **MrBenn** on Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:44 am

Gilligan wrote:Sigh...what happened there...I didn't touch any coordinates when changing Levdenburg

natty_dread had somthing similar with the Transsib map. Did you use the XML wizard??

by **Gilligan** on Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:04 am

by **natty dread** on Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:16 am

Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...

by **MrBenn** on Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:28 pm

Did you use jota's map assistant? I once had a strange coordinate shift from using that (although it was with the initial coordinate plotting and not a subsequent change).

by **Gilligan** on Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:38 pm

MrBenn wrote:Did you use jota's map assistant? I once had a strange coordinate shift from using that (although it was with the initial coordinate plotting and not a subsequent change).

Yeah I did, but how does that explain how it was changed? I didn't open the Map Assistant after the map went live because there was no need to.

by **Dukasaur** on Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:34 am

natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...

It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.

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by **natty dread** on Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:18 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...

It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.

by **Gilligan** on Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:58 pm

natty_dread wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...

It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.

I didn't touch the XML. Let alone every coordinate by the same distances in the same directions.

by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:11 am

Gilligan wrote:
natty_dread wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
natty_dread wrote:Yeah this is really strange, I have no idea what caused it...

It happened at the same time as they introduced clickable maps. There was nothing wrong with it before that. I can say that with almost 99% certainty, because I played a South Africa turn about half an hour before the clikable update, and another one about 10 minutes after that.
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It has nothing to do with clickies. The error is in the XML.

I didn't touch the XML. Let alone every coordinate by the same distances in the same directions.

I haven't identified what causes this to happen yet, but it is certain that the distorted coordinates are actually in the xml. I don't know how it is possible.

Go look at it in the map inspector, http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php it shows that the coordinates are wrong even there.

What you need to do is fix the coordinates in the xml.

by **ender516** on Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:05 am

Is it possible that one of the tools used for editing the XML was running in a browser at a zoom level other than 100% and got confused? I, for one, have not used chipv's Map XML Wizard in that way, but I could see someone changing the zoom to fit the whole large map and the toolbox onto the screen without overlap. Maybe the point conversions get messed up in that situation.

by **Gilligan** on Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:03 pm

ender516 wrote:Is it possible that one of the tools used for editing the XML was running in a browser at a zoom level other than 100% and got confused? I, for one, have not used chipv's Map XML Wizard in that way, but I could see someone changing the zoom to fit the whole large map and the toolbox onto the screen without overlap. Maybe the point conversions get messed up in that situation.

The thing is, it worked when the first map went live. Then BOOM it felt like not working.

by **natty dread** on Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:17 pm

It's a very odd phenomenon. Perhaps the internet is becoming sentient and is trying to communicate with us by messing with XML files?

Quick, someone compare the messed up coordinates to the real ones. Perhaps we can discern a message by analyzing the pattern of differences.

by **natty dread** on Sat Mar 26, 2011 4:38 am

Ok, what's the holdup here, why are the coords still messed up?

It's kinda annoying in the games.

by **Gilligan** on Sat Mar 26, 2011 6:54 pm

natty_dread wrote:Ok, what's the holdup here, why are the coords still messed up?

It's kinda annoying in the games.

No one ever followed up on what the issue was.

by **natty dread** on Sun Mar 27, 2011 1:59 am

The issue is, you need to fix the coords on the xml, and then post the updated xml.

by **Mazzicc** on Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:49 am

This map needs it's borders more clearly drawn so that you don't put troops in one zone thinking you can attack what appears to be bordering it, only to find out you can't. It cost me a game

I hate when the borders aren't clear.

by **Gilligan** on Sun Mar 27, 2011 12:24 pm

Using Jota's assistant again, it screws it up even more. I made sure the length and width are correct, and they were. Entered coordinates and this is what I get. They are all still off proportionally. I'm about to leave the house, so I'll figure it out when I get home, I'm posting this to keep you in the loop.