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Postby Fitz69 on Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:06 pm

Fitz69 wrote:Ok nice input everyone..

Let get to some specifics, as to what needs to be done. On topic that is.

1. lettering. All text in the map needs to be redone. Mainly a question about font size in my opinion.
2. Size. Get the size right. 2 versions as specified in the "how to make a map"
3. Cosmetics. A better backgrond than the white one. Maybe a flag under the bonuses.
4. XML file thingamajigg. Gotta look into how that is done.

Any input from everyone else? Fell free to add to the list.


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Postby DublinDoogey on Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:53 pm

I like this map a lot! If you were to move the legend to be all across the bottom/top of the map, like Hong Kong, you may be able to actually increase the size of the map itself, making it easier to read the names on the small version.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:12 pm

Hm, well lets see...the map is coming along...

  • You'll have to rework the black lines, they seem slopped on. Perhaps using a brown, and making it look more like a wood grain, might give the effect of barriers and impassable borders.
  • Regarding the colors, I like them overall, but can you experiment with perhaps making them a little darker? I like the brightness, but it might be a touch to much.
  • Regarding a few of the country names...I suggest moving 'Newsweek' to the 'Tabloid' spot, and flip flopping them. I think that will fit better.
  • Also, I'd get rid of one of the two 'oils'. Keep Big Oil, replace bigger oil with something else.
  • Notice how you put fox's name on the top? Either do the same with AP (or perhaps put tabloid there), to keep things symmetrical.
  • You might have to boost the size of names on the small map, though it looks rather impossible.
  • One thing to consider, stretch the map a little bit vertically, not very much, but that might give you more room for the names and the army shadows.


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Postby Marvaddin on Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:15 am

What a boring and usa-centric idea! Map of US senate... bah! At least make a map of CC senate (even why CC is much more important than US :) ). Start changing those seat names... although not all need to be changed, once you have Kyle, Ron, Dan, Pete... :D Wheres my seat, man? :roll:

You also could use some clans names, or, as lobby, how about dice changing, no more maps, noobs segregation, kill hendy, etc?

Would that be possible? Because it would surely have much more appeal to me.
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Postby Sargentgeneral on Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:36 am

I disagree with Marvaddin, i think this will eventually become a very good map.

Now regarding the points that andy made:
1. I believe you do need to darken the countries because after playing it for a long time it would hurt your eyes.
2. I really like the idea of perhaps and acutal wood design for the boarders. That way it would seem like an actual building.
3. The placement of Fox should match AP.
4. One of the oils must be changed.

These ideas will help the map move along much quicker. (these are andy's points and i agree with them)
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Postby Marvaddin on Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:07 am

And Im against this one? Im just suggesting a little "theme change" :D
(Didnt I seem serious in my previous post? I was totally serious: do a CC senate map instead!)
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Postby reverend_kyle on Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:41 am

Marvaddin wrote:And Im against this one? Im just suggesting a little "theme change" :D
(Didnt I seem serious in my previous post? I was totally serious: do a CC senate map instead!)


If he moves that kyle into a blue seat he's already got a good start.
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Postby Coleman on Fri Jan 05, 2007 2:24 am

I think this looks brilliant as is personally, can't wait to play on this one if it gets added.
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Postby Fitz69 on Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:07 pm

1. Black lines: gone. Went for a brick and handrail feel.
2. Colors: Darkened and changed.
3. Names: Flipflopped Newsweek and Tabloid.
4. Names: Bigger Oil now called Banking. (thought Big and bigger oil was kinda fun though).
5. Media names: Fox and AP symetrical.
6. Map size: Followed DublinDoogeys suggestion; put the legend below and got more room.
7. Kyle: Well, he's in a blue seat now.

Let me know what you think. (of course you will :D )
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Postby johloh on Sun Jan 07, 2007 6:27 pm

should there maybe be a left right connection somewhere at the bottom of the map?

if you leave it how it is i think the podium should have a larger bonus due to its central location...
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Postby oaktown on Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:45 pm

brilliant map - nicely done. I applaud any effort that shows more creativity than scanning a page of an atlas.

As for the map configuration change, I actually prefer my maps to be a bit smaller. I don't like to have to keep scrolling down to attack and fortify while I'm playing on my laptop - that's the purpose of having a two sizes in the first place, right? By dropping the legend to the bottom of the small map, it may increase the size enough to defeat the purpose of having it at all... is it still within the suggested small map size?

And anybody who complains about a US-centric map should note the half dozen Europe maps currently in the foundry.
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Postby btownmeggy on Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:00 pm

Holy moly, I LOVE this map.
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Postby Bad Speler on Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:40 pm

This map is great! A few suggestions though:

1. In the legend, you seem to have TV media and print media mixed up
2. Consider removing the wall between education and tobacco at the bottom of the map; currently the only way to get from one half to the other is throught the podium
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Postby oaktown on Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:44 pm

Bad Speler wrote:This map is great! A few suggestions though:

Consider removing the wall between education and tobacco at the bottom of the map; currently the only way to get from one half to the other is throught the podium


It would make more sense to remove the barrier between the TV and print media - I'm not sure education wants to associate with tobacco, though tobacco would love to get into the schools.

What, no pro-life or pro-choice lobbies?
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Postby rjp0305 on Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:47 pm

Nice map. Good choice on banking, I was going to suggest something with automakers or unions, but you seem to be doing fine. Keep up the good work!!
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Postby Sargentgeneral on Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:31 pm

regarding oaktown and Bad Speler:

Or, you could just remove them both. If both the barriers were gone, it would add to the attacking theme of the map.
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Postby sully800 on Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:44 pm

Fitz69 wrote:Image


-You have misspelled 'environment' and 'Defense'

-Must words in the country names start with capital letters, but on the podium the countries with 2 words don't have the second word capitalized.

-I would put 'podium' below 'tv media' in the key so it is symmetrical.
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Postby btownmeggy on Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:27 pm

Defence is the British spelling.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:48 pm

Which wouldn't make sense for this map. :-\


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Postby reverend_kyle on Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:54 pm

The red side needs a Jay.
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Postby btownmeggy on Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:55 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Which wouldn't make sense for this map. :-\


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I absolutely agree.
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Postby DublinDoogey on Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:37 am

I love how you did the impassable borders and if you look at it right, it looks like the senate floor desends with each level, which it actually does, and then ascends at the podium. Great map :) I would suggest putting in a connection on the bottom of the map too, because, if i looked at it correctly, a person could hold an entire half of the map with only two borders.
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Postby reverend_kyle on Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:51 am

theoretically you could have south floor as your only border.
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Postby KEYOGI on Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:55 am

When this idea was first suggested I thought very little of the map and idea. Seeing how it has developed though, I look forward to playing the map. Excellent work.
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Postby Fitz69 on Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:37 am

Bad Speler wrote:This map is great! A few suggestions though:

1. In the legend, you seem to have TV media and print media mixed up
2. Consider removing the wall between education and tobacco at the bottom of the map; currently the only way to get from one half to the other is throught the podium


1. Oops. SNAFU on my part.
2. Concentrating the only left-right movement to the podium is kinda in keeping with the theme.
If I open up a border somewhere, where would be the best place?
a. Kenny-Pam
b. Tabloid-CNN
c. Education-Tobacco

Hmm. maybe time for a poll?
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