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The Bison King wrote:Obviously there'll need to be changes in the XML.
It seems a little redundant to have both the mini-map with the names, and the names with the bonus amounts next to it. Couldn't you just put the bonus amounts on the mini-map ?
Also he border on he mini-map is too large IMHO. it is just stealing too much attention from the rest of the map.
Are there any other outstanding issues with the XML that I have forgotten?
natty_dread wrote:I'm still not happy with the bonus area names first letters. I know you're trying to do something fancy there but it just doesn't work at that scale. Now they don't look fancy, they look smudgy and unclear. Sorry for being so blunt.
Why not find a font that has nice looking letters but with less small details.
I love to see a traditional name alongside the current name,
But I'm not sure about the minimap. I would do the same btw for France and a part of England. Now only the traditional name is written there in grey (Gaul,...). I would also place there a current name.
Those red dragons, are they not specific heraldry for wales? I wouldn't make them red (even if they are traditionally red) It's just not at its place...I would suggest a blue or grey for them.
I would take another font for "7 nations"...It's just not fitting with the font above it (the one I Looove by the way...were can I download it?).
Sorry but I must agree a bit on it...Have a look at Dafont.
Here is an idea for the "7 Nations" text. -Spell out 7, as in SEVEN NATIONS. then scale it down so that it fits under the CELTIC, and have it centered and flanking the emblem. You can scale the width way out, and space the two words apart so that they fit without covering the emblem.
Yeah, on the right track. I think that if you scaled it down even further, then kern out the seven, and kern in the nations to a point where they are of equal width, then they would fit without covering any of the emblem.The Bison King wrote:Here is an idea for the "7 Nations" text. -Spell out 7, as in SEVEN NATIONS. then scale it down so that it fits under the CELTIC, and have it centered and flanking the emblem. You can scale the width way out, and space the two words apart so that they fit without covering the emblem.
Sure why not.
Here's my last attempt to get people into the fancy font on the legend. Color Coding.
Yes, It is not too difficult. I walked Grift through it in under a minute. I can try to explain it here real quick, and if you have any problems, we can get together on a live chat.The Bison King wrote:honestly though I have know idea can you even Kern in photoshop?
porkenbeans wrote:Adjusting the kerning is something every pro does before he puts his name on the work. The kerning is set mathematically, but because every style of text is a little bit different, and certain letters when they are next to each other will need to be adjusted, because of their shape in relation to each other. For example, look at your title. do you see the space between the L and the T in CELTIC. You can drive a truck through there. The distance between those two letters needs to be reduced. Adjusting the kerning is something that you have to just do with your eye. After you get all of that kerning knocked out, then you need to go in and center everything up. Use your rulers and guides for this. I know that it is only a a pixel or two (or more) adjustment, but you will really notice the difference if you were to look at them side by side. And, these small things when done right will make your work look much more professional in the end. I also notice other kerning issues with the labeling. Mostly with the "r" it seems.
It is like I said, It is a matter of using your eye. This kerning "abuse" is a common trick that is done all the time. The trick is to do it in a way that it is not readily noticeable. The example that I posted could still use a little touching up, but it is not bad.The Bison King wrote:porkenbeans wrote:Adjusting the kerning is something every pro does before he puts his name on the work. The kerning is set mathematically, but because every style of text is a little bit different, and certain letters when they are next to each other will need to be adjusted, because of their shape in relation to each other. For example, look at your title. do you see the space between the L and the T in CELTIC. You can drive a truck through there. The distance between those two letters needs to be reduced. Adjusting the kerning is something that you have to just do with your eye. After you get all of that kerning knocked out, then you need to go in and center everything up. Use your rulers and guides for this. I know that it is only a a pixel or two (or more) adjustment, but you will really notice the difference if you were to look at them side by side. And, these small things when done right will make your work look much more professional in the end. I also notice other kerning issues with the labeling. Mostly with the "r" it seems.
Are you like being paid by the national Kerning society or something? Yeah I know what you are saying and I know that Kerning is used by professional designers (I did go to an art and design school) but using kerning to compensate the difference of an entire letter is very different than what you are talking about in the above paragraph. That's called Kerning abuse.
TBK, I liked the legend with the illuminated initials, no matter what natty said. They weren't perfectly clear, but those types of letters never are. Did anyone other than natty complain? If not, use what you like. The colour coding is fine, but not necessary.
I am going to change the XML as far as the Galician names are concerned. As a double check, would you post the "before" and "after" names?
Today's been a headache in here.
I think the changes are as follows:
* A Coruna => Atrabri
* Asturias => Albioni
* Lugo => Seurri
* Vigo => Cileni
* Orense => Coelerni
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