Moderator: Cartographers
HighlanderAttack wrote:drop the bonuses down and I think this is a real good map
2=1
3=1
4=2
6=3
8=4
No need to have them so large with a small to medium map. Makes for a much better game.
shoop76 wrote:HighlanderAttack wrote:drop the bonuses down and I think this is a real good map
2=1
3=1
4=2
6=3
8=4
No need to have them so large with a small to medium map. Makes for a much better game.
I agree. To easy to get a big, quick bonus. Otherwise great map.
pamoa wrote:nice poppy small map
but please do something about those 2 and 3 territories zone one can get the bonus at drop
starting position, neutrals or only +1
as you want
I just had a game where my opponent got +5 at the drop !!!
HighlanderAttack wrote:drop the bonuses down and I think this is a real good map
2=1
3=1
4=2
6=3
8=4
No need to have them so large with a small to medium map. Makes for a much better game.
shoop76 wrote:I agree. To easy to get a big, quick bonus. Otherwise great map.
Peter Gibbons wrote:Funny, I was going to come in here to make almost an opposite claim. I dropped Besiktas in a game for the +3... but there are 8 attack routes in for a 3-territory bonus. Makes it almost impossible to defend and, though I've barely kept it in that game, I'm probably the weakest player at the moment.
The situation appears very similar for the other small bonuses, too. I don't think the bonuses are high at all, because if you can keep them, you've definitely earned them--there are no easy bonuses with only 2 or 3 routes in. Look how many attack routes there are into the +2s; the highway system makes things a lot different than other maps that might seem similar.
I won't suggest an increase in the bonus count, because I don't think that will fly. But I would definitely oppose a decrease. I'd suggest splitting bonus areas before a decrease. But I like it as is... gives a different dynamic than other maps.
istanbul39 wrote:Just some suggestions here:
We are missing the most recognized names in the city.
Beyoglu?
Taksim?
Sultan Ahmet?
Levent?
Kadikoy? (it is in the wrong spot. It should be on the Bogazici waterfront facing west)
And also with the connections, identify the metro stations. I would go to an istanbul public transportaion map http://www.iett.gov.tr/en/ and look at the more accurate identifications.
Good start though!
Gilligan wrote:I suggest having one of Umraniye be a starting neutral
the issue is not only Umraniye but also Esenler and Beyogludanryan wrote:Absolutely. Otherwise this is completely unbalanced 1 v 1. Or make it a +1 - still less preferable but better than current. Nice graphics though.Gilligan wrote:I suggest having one of Umraniye be a starting neutral
pamoa wrote:very nice map
one suggestion which would help a lot
can you move a bit south the eastern end of the connection between Topkapi and Zuhtupasa
I'm always confusing as it seems to connect Topkapi to Ayazma
pamoa wrote:the issue is not only Umraniye but also Esenler and Beyogludanryan wrote:Absolutely. Otherwise this is completely unbalanced 1 v 1. Or make it a +1 - still less preferable but better than current. Nice graphics though.Gilligan wrote:I suggest having one of Umraniye be a starting neutral
pamoa wrote:... please do something about those 2 and 3 territories zone one can get the bonus at drop
starting position, neutrals or only +1
as you want
I just had a game where my opponent got +5 at the drop !!!
natty_dread wrote:You can make the changes and post them here, they will then be sent for uploading unless there's any serious concerns.
pamoa DEC 29 wrote:... please do something about those 2 and 3 territories zone one can get the bonus at drop
starting position, neutrals or only +1 as you want
is there anybody herepamoa JAN 10 wrote:... can you move a bit south the eastern end of the connection between Topkapi and Zuhtupasa
I'm always confusing as it seems to connect Topkapi to Ayazma
pamoa wrote:pamoa DEC 29 wrote:... please do something about those 2 and 3 territories zone one can get the bonus at drop
starting position, neutrals or only +1 as you wantis there anybody herepamoa JAN 10 wrote:... can you move a bit south the eastern end of the connection between Topkapi and Zuhtupasa
I'm always confusing as it seems to connect Topkapi to Ayazma
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