United States of Apocalypse [Quenched]

[spiesr]

Hawai seems way too unconnected, (Can only be attacked from one which can also only be attacked by one!)

[AndyDufresne]

Spiesr...


---Not all countries, especially continents on the edge of a map, are going to have more than one access point. Hawaii is a rather mute point. Now if Aquaria was larger, and it only had one route to get in, that would be a different story. And as it is, Aquaria has 2 border routes in..plenty for such a little area.


--Andy

[Jota]

Really only a minor thing, have you looked into other images for the bridges?

Folks seemed more or less content with the bridges (aside from the band-aid and visibility issues, which I think I've fixed), but here are some more options:



As you can see, they're generally not so great. The only one of the new four that I like at all is the arrow, since it matches the other arrows, so I could switch to that if people wanted. But otherwise, I'm inclined to just go with the "road slugs".

Also, Andy mentioned another thing to me: I haven't really been consistent over whether it's called "United States of Apocalypse" or just "USApocalypse". Before I formally picked one or the other, I thought I'd check if there was a strong preference on the forum between the two versions of the name.

[AndyDufresne]

---Well if you only want to use the arrows or the slugs, use the slugs please! (Though I particularly like the northern most one). This reminds me of the situation in the Middle Earth map, where people disliked the red dot connectors all over the map--I feel the same way about the arrows.

---As for the name, I like the longer one for the 'official' name, but the shorter one works well for discussion and the 'Start a game' page.


--Andy

[Evil Pope]

Personally, I think you should stick with the United States of Apocalypse..
As for the bridges, I like the arrow.. I think you should use them instead of the "road slugs"..

[reverend_kyle]

Road slugs are better and so is the longer name.

[rocksolid]

Longer name; for bridges, a variant on the Sanders bridge. The road slugs don't make me think of bridges at all.

[Jota]

Sanders/Illinois or Sanders/Indiana?

[rocksolid]

Sorry, Sanders/Indiana.

[Jota]

Unsurprisingly, I suppose, opinions are completely mixed. So it looks like we'll be defaulting to the original version.

[AndyDufresne]

---Damn free thought.


--Andy

[spiesr]

I suggest changes Minnesota to Mosquitoes.

[AndyDufresne]

Or perhpas "Viks" or some variant of vikings. Really this is a mute point.

--Andy

[Jota]

I think I've got about the right mix of fake/real names right now: If I tip the balance too much further, we'll start lose some of the advantage of using familiar territory.

[AndyDufresne]

Quenching

The Final Forge period has concluded for the United States of Apocalypse Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for live play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!


–Andy

[Haydena]

I wonder how many three player games we are going to have with one player starting with all the radioactive sites and gaining 9 on the first turn... Hehe, I'd like to watch those games

[Jota]

On average, one out of every 243 three-player games will start that way.

But I suspect that about two-thirds of the time, someone will take away at least one of those countries before the lucky player gets to even take one turn.

[reverend_kyle]

does that mean lack can put this up. I want to play it more than any toher map.

[Jota]

I think he was just a bit busy yesterday, between being out of town and then saving the world^H^H^H^H^Hsite and all. Hopefully he'll put it up today.

[General Mayhem]

you really need to explain the final version and how it works somewhere please?!

[mrdexter]

It's all their on the map. Basically continent bonuses work as per normal maps. Radiation countries have negative effect or bonuses depending on how many you have as per the map.

[Jota]

Yeah, I thought the legends were clear enough. What else is there to explain?

[ChaunceyMo]

How about what a radiation nexus bonus is?

2006-06-26 22:19:16 - <player> receives -2 armies for holding irradiated territory
2006-06-26 22:19:16 - <player> receives 1 armies for holding a radiation nexus

No mention of a radiation nexus on the map itself or in the legend. This was first turn, so it seems like he just got a free army for no good reason. Might be good to include an explanation of this somewhere.

/Mo

[Jota]

A radiation nexus is just two or more irradiated countries. The player received -2 armies and +1 army, for a total of -1 armies.

[kibblesmania]

On average, one out of every 243 three-player games will start that way.

But I suspect that about two-thirds of the time, someone will take away at least one of those countries before the lucky player gets to even take one turn.

where did u learn math? i got 1 out of 729
-solution- 3^6 (3 to the power of 6) i think u only did it for 5 counties but there is 6
3^5=243
3^6=729
sorry to all u people close to that 243rd game