Europe 1914 [Quenched]

[oaktown]

I've been involved in a game on this map for a few weeks now. No spoils. I grabbed the UK early on, and have managed to hold it the whole game. An opponent has held the balkans, while no one else has been able to hold a continent. There's been an interesting back and forth between the balkans and UK, and the game has dragged on like the real WWI.

That's just to say that I love the map - any game that lasts this long is great by me.

If nothing else, this post shows that the London neutral value isn't too big in at least some games.

I'm going to recommend this be de-BETA'd.

[the.killing.44]

Ermm...

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Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:01 pm
[Maps]
Europe 1914 out of Beta

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[oaktown]

My bad... I guess it needs to be moved out of here then.

[jarrett155]

Is anyone else bugged by the fact that the Europe 1914 map is historically incorrect? Italy was a central power in 1914.

[miniwally]

no it wasn't

[MrBenn]

[merged] into the appropriate place

[Elijah S]

Objectives are misleading.
I'm in a doubles game where my partner just captured all of the central powers capitals.
My understanding of "game objectives" is that when someone acheives one, the game is won.

This was my first game on this map and I think it could be better stated on the map that acheiving an objective does not win the game.

[Elijah S]

The map states that holding vienna, berlin, sofia and constantinople is a "gameplay objective", but acquiring those capitals does not win the game.
In our first go on this map, my partner captured the above capitals and it did nothing.
I think it should be stated somewhere on the map that it doesn't win the game, in fact, I think it's very misleading.

[Woodruff]

The map states that holding vienna, berlin, sofia and constantinople is a "gameplay objective", but acquiring those capitals does not win the game.
In our first go on this map, my partner captured the above capitals and it did nothing.
I think it should be stated somewhere on the map that it doesn't win the game, in fact, I think it's very misleading.

The $1,000,000 question is...did your partner HOLD THOSE CAPITALS UNTIL HIS NEXT TURN?

THAT is the key here, I do believe.

[AceArtemis]

Some maps have objectives which you must conquer and hold for one round to win the game.

From the Instructions for CC.

[saaimen]

Objectives are misleading.
I'm in a doubles game where my partner just captured all of the central powers capitals.
My understanding of "game objectives" is that when someone acheives one, the game is won.

This was my first game on this map and I think it could be better stated on the map that acheiving an objective does not win the game.

I've had the same problem. It says "capture". It should say "hold for one turn". You'll see.

[Night Strike]

Merged from Sugs/Bugs.

[sheunghei]

I (sheunghei) and my friend(black friday) played a 2-player game on the europe 1914 map (4633593) today, and suddenly, the game ends and the game log said that I have lose the game:

2009-04-08 01:50:35 - Black Friday held the Central Power Capitals objective
2009-04-08 01:50:35 - Black Friday won the game
2009-04-08 01:50:35 - sheunghei loses 19 points
2009-04-08 01:50:35 - Black Friday gains 19 points

But later, my friend said to me by phone that he had lose the game too, and he saw that in the game log, I win the game by held the Central Power Capitals objective and gain 19 pt instead of I losing.

[Joodoo]

are you saying your friend lost points even though he won the game?

[Timminz]

Your friend is mistaken.

[Fipa]

I (sheunghei) and my friend(black friday) played a 2-player game on the europe 1914 map (4633593) today, and suddenly, the game ends and the game log said that I have lose the game:

2009-04-08 01:50:35 - Black Friday held the Central Power Capitals objective
2009-04-08 01:50:35 - Black Friday won the game
2009-04-08 01:50:35 - sheunghei loses 19 points
2009-04-08 01:50:35 - Black Friday gains 19 points

But later, my friend said to me by phone that he had lose the game too, and he saw that in the game log, I win the game by held the Central Power Capitals objective and gain 19 pt instead of I losing.

If you lost 19 points, then you would gain 21 when you win against him. So your friend can't read the log well

[Qwert]

hmm i look game log of these game,and your friend win a game, so i dont see any problem here>Probably he dont read correct game log.

[cicero]

Moved from Suggestions & Bug Reports to Map Foundry.
Foundry Mods please merge with quenched thread.

Cicero

[MrBenn]

[merged]

[JJM]

Why doe's it list St.Petersburg as Russia's capital.Moscow is.

[the.killing.44]

Why doe's it list St.Petersburg as Russia's capital.Moscow is.

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[Ralfbuske]

Game 4828829

Serious bullshit, I've got Paris, Rome, London and S:t Petersburg, check round 5. And still, i'm not winning :O

[saaimen]

As you will have noticed by now, you win when you start your turn holding those 4.
The legend says 'capture', though all objectives should be held for one turn.

[broncojd78]

hello...i tried to read through the thread to find the answer but either failed or it wasn't there...

how do you know what power you are when you start a game?

[saaimen]

hello...i tried to read through the thread to find the answer but either failed or it wasn't there...

how do you know what power you are when you start a game?

You 'are' no one. Your armies are scattered across the map. You could simply win this game like any other: eliminate everyone.
The objective adds something: there are 2 groups of 4 capitals of countries that were allied in WW1; those two alliances were called the 'Central' and 'Entente' powers. If you hold any group of 4 capitals for a whole round, you win the game.
But you could also hold 3 of one group and 1 of the other and NOT win, of course...
To answer your question directly: it's your own choice Just go conquer some capitals!