[Medal] Suggestion Medal

[greenoaks]

I have a suggestion medal.

Hahaha, priceless!

I'm not sure I understand the humor. I really do.

I know, I saw it. I find it hilarious that there's been such a negative response over a suggestion medal, and you're sitting on one

That being said, I believe that if we're going to hand out medals for making a suggestion, we need to also hand them out to the people who add suggestions and help modify them. Overall, it's going to add a lot of medals.

i don't think it will.

there'd be a few Suggestion Achievement medals given out to those who have a sug implemented and most of the Suggestion Contribution medals would go to the same few posters for their efforts over many ideas.

[agentcom]

The current "policy" is that the Suggestions Department can award medals, and we will be looking to award them to users that really go above and beyond to further suggestions as they proceed through to implementation. As you can imagine, this is rarely the OP of a suggestion that will get these medals because a lot of people stop by to post something and then forget about it. I don't even think it's going to be a 1 for 1 thing, where every time the site is improved, we go looking for a player to give a medal to.

The policy has changed or evolved with each different iteration of the Suggestions Team, so I don't think that there's much use in talking about how "things have been" as there's never really been a consistent way of doing things.

All that said, I would love it if our department could hand out special medals that are obviously from the Suggestions Department like the one that was designed and put in the OP. We probably wouldn't hand out too many more than we currently plan to hand out, but it would be neat for a distinct award to be given when we do, rather than a generic GC medal.

[nicestash]

And it would improve activity in this forum once medal hunters hear about it.
But I agree that if there is a medal, it shouldn't just be for making a good suggestion- the player should also have to be part of the entire process to get it past, or else the mods will end up with a million suggestions and no analysis.

[agentcom]

Not to mention, I don't want to deal with who came up with a suggestion when there are thousands of old suggestions floating around that haven't been properly categorized.

[nicestash]

You could just choose whoever seemed like they were the most helpful in developing the suggestion.

[greenoaks]

You could just choose whoever seemed like they were the most helpful in developing the suggestion.

sugs mods are excluded

[chapcrap]

You could just choose whoever seemed like they were the most helpful in developing the suggestion.

sugs mods are excluded

Dang it!

[thehippo8]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the driteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

[greenoaks]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the driteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

this suggestion should have its own thread.

and if implemented you get a medal.

[chapcrap]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the driteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

That's not our call. I think rds can leak whatever information he wanted. He knows what is going on.

[thehippo8]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the criteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

That's not our call. I think rds can leak whatever information he wanted. He knows what is going on.

Without going off track too much, you may want to read what I said again. How would rds know if a suggestion was promising or when input was desired on any topic? The suggs mods are best placed to monitor these things but I'd welcome input from anyone!

[blakebowling]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the criteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

That's not our call. I think rds can leak whatever information he wanted. He knows what is going on.

Without going off track too much, you may want to read what I said again. How would rds know if a suggestion was promising or when input was desired on any topic? The suggs mods are best placed to monitor these things but I'd welcome input from anyone!

I believe chap was talking about the newly implemented / coming soon suggestions.

[thehippo8]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the criteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

That's not our call. I think rds can leak whatever information he wanted. He knows what is going on.

Without going off track too much, you may want to read what I said again. How would rds know if a suggestion was promising or when input was desired on any topic? The suggs mods are best placed to monitor these things but I'd welcome input from anyone!

I believe chap was talking about the newly implemented / coming soon suggestions.

Ah, thanks blake, that makes sense. Yes, in that case Chap is 100% right - that would be for blake to leak to the media team. I was meaning if the suggs team found promising ideas in development that you wanted to drive ideas to them we can help with that - it would also give more value to the medals because a wider cross-section of the CC community could have a say.

[blakebowling]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the criteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

That's not our call. I think rds can leak whatever information he wanted. He knows what is going on.

Without going off track too much, you may want to read what I said again. How would rds know if a suggestion was promising or when input was desired on any topic? The suggs mods are best placed to monitor these things but I'd welcome input from anyone!

I believe chap was talking about the newly implemented / coming soon suggestions.

Ah, thanks blake, that makes sense. Yes, in that case Chap is 100% right - that would be for blake to leak to the media team. I was meaning if the suggs team found promising ideas in development that you wanted to drive ideas to them we can help with that - it would also give more value to the medals because a wider cross-section of the CC community could have a say.

A start may be to feature one of the stickied (quickly-progressing) suggestions in the dispatch, or social media, or the like.

In the future, I'd like to have a system where any major change (essentially any one that could have fallout) is brought in front of the community to get an opinion before it is implemented. The final call would still lie with the admins, although I think bringing the wider voice in can be beneficial in some cases.

If you'd like to pursue this idea further, send me a PM and I'll see what we can do. (I'm not sure what I'm allowed to leak, and what I'm not).

[chapcrap]

I'm for this idea and an appropriate criteria. I see no reason why suggs can't have their own medals. They choose the criteria, they implement the process, they maintain consistency and we all win!

Incidentally, aside from suggs medals ... I'd like to see suggs mesh more with media. Each time a promising new suggestion comes along pleas let me or one of the other media staff know and we can drive traffic this way through twitter/facebook or even an article in Dispatch if warranted. The more the idea is bashed around the more valid it will be and the more meaningful any medal award will be. We can also announce implemented suggestions and if you like award recipients!

That's not our call. I think rds can leak whatever information he wanted. He knows what is going on.

Without going off track too much, you may want to read what I said again. How would rds know if a suggestion was promising or when input was desired on any topic? The suggs mods are best placed to monitor these things but I'd welcome input from anyone!

I believe chap was talking about the newly implemented / coming soon suggestions.

Ah, thanks blake, that makes sense. Yes, in that case Chap is 100% right - that would be for blake to leak to the media team. I was meaning if the suggs team found promising ideas in development that you wanted to drive ideas to them we can help with that - it would also give more value to the medals because a wider cross-section of the CC community could have a say.

Yes, blake was right.

And I do agree that looking at the stickied topics is the best way probably. But, if you need something at a particular time for an issue, you can probably send one of us a message.

[thehippo8]

oops ... I meant for rdsrds (BMO) to leak. I take your point chap and now I'll stop derailing this thread!

So back to the suggestions medal, I'm thinking that to get it:

1. There would have to be an implemented idea;
2. The recipient of the idea (preferably the person who came up with the idea) was integral to its implementation (followed the chat throughout and otherwise made a significant material contribution to the issue); and
3. The implemented idea was (at the discretion of the Suggs team) considered to be a material worthwhile idea for the good of the whole CC community (and not just some side issue only relevant to the person who suggested it).

But I'm uncertain if that covers everything.

[greenoaks]

oops ... I meant for rdsrds (BMO) to leak. I take your point chap and now I'll stop derailing this thread!

So back to the suggestions medal, I'm thinking that to get it:

1. There would have to be an implemented idea;
2. The recipient of the idea (preferably the person who came up with the idea) was integral to its implementation (followed the chat throughout and otherwise made a significant material contribution to the issue); and
3. The implemented idea was (at the discretion of the Suggs team) considered to be a material worthwhile idea for the good of the whole CC community (and not just some side issue only relevant to the person who suggested it).

But I'm uncertain if that covers everything.

i don't like point 3.

Admin have decided it was worthwhile for the whole of CC by implementing it.

[blakebowling]

oops ... I meant for rdsrds (BMO) to leak. I take your point chap and now I'll stop derailing this thread!

So back to the suggestions medal, I'm thinking that to get it:

1. There would have to be an implemented idea;
2. The recipient of the idea (preferably the person who came up with the idea) was integral to its implementation (followed the chat throughout and otherwise made a significant material contribution to the issue); and
3. The implemented idea was (at the discretion of the Suggs team) considered to be a material worthwhile idea for the good of the whole CC community (and not just some side issue only relevant to the person who suggested it).

But I'm uncertain if that covers everything.

i don't like point 3.

Admin have decided it was worthwhile for the whole of CC by implementing it.

I don't think there have been any implemented suggestions that didn't benefit the community.

I'm not saying there weren't problems, I'm just saying changes haven't went against the people.

[thehippo8]

Lol ... aha ... You have a point. So delete point 3 then.

[greenoaks]

so it shouldn't be up to Suggestion mods to determine if an idea if worthy - it's implementation is proof it is.

what the mods here need to decide is who qualifies for a medal because of its implementation.

[blakebowling]

so it shouldn't be up to Suggestion mods to determine if an idea if worthy - it's implementation is proof it is.

what the mods here need to decide is who qualifies for a medal because of its implementation.

Right. Keep this kind of thinking up and we just might have to give you one .

[nicestash]

Not all suggestions affect the entire CC community. Sometimes suggestions only target certain areas of expertise such at the suggestion to get rid of bans for using love chat colors https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=470&t=150283

This suggestion only helped people who use live chat which is only a fraction of CC users.

[blakebowling]

Not all suggestions affect the entire CC community. Sometimes suggestions only target certain areas of expertise such at the suggestion to get rid of bans for using love chat colors https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=470&t=150283

This suggestion only helped people who use live chat which is only a fraction of CC users.

Right, but this didn't hurt any users either (i.e. for the users it didn't benefit, it was neutral)

[nicestash]

It's still not for the common good. If CC gave me a free membership, it'd help me, but it wouldn't be good for the whole of CC; it'd just be neutral.
That being said, I don't think rule #3 should be in place.

[greenoaks]

can we get this moved to Submitted and a design worked on.

rds already gives out medals for suggestions so the first recipients would be those having their General Achievement/Contributions medals converted to the new Suggs medal.