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[ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [28-(5)-27pts] - BoFM Win

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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby BoganGod on Sun Dec 11, 2011 11:54 am

L M S wrote:
danryan wrote:We're saving the angry dolphin for last. :D


Is that anything like the angry rooster?


Angry rooster? That would be the small red headed cock that makes a lot of noise and does nothing, but crows about it anyway?

You folks can keep your dolphin, orcas are our thang.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby freakns on Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:18 pm

danryan vs bogan... good lord, only reading through this thread makes me wanna throw up!
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby BoganGod on Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:45 am

freakns wrote:danryan vs bogan... good lord, only reading through this thread makes me touch myself in an impure fashion whilst wishing I was the meat in a bogan/dan sandwiche

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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby danryan on Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:50 pm

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freakns wrote:danryan vs bogan... good lord, only reading through this thread makes me touch myself in an impure fashion whilst wishing I was the meat in a bogan/dan sandwiche

FIXED


Eifel Tower bro! =D>
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby L M S on Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:55 pm

Clearly we are gonna need more Whiskey...I better get to distilling, I may miss a few turns, for the greater good.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby BoganGod on Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:46 pm

Hey DJ you lazy brummie git. How about up dating the scores a little, let us see how badly we are suxing.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby danryan on Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:19 pm

4-7 for the fatties so far, not looking good for the good guys.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [7-(0)-8 of 60 pts]

Postby Teflon Kris on Thu Dec 15, 2011 2:30 pm

Latest score:

BoFM 7 v FOED 8 (of 60 pts]

We aren't too worried as you will be p*ssed soon :lol: :lol:

We'll save the alcohol sessions till we've robbed you of your stash ;)
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [10-(0)-8 of 60 pts]

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:29 pm

Score updated.

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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby anonymus on Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:48 pm

danryan wrote:4-7 for the fatties so far, we are not that good-looking but on our knees for the good guys.


fixed that for ya..

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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [0-(0)-0 of 60 pts]

Postby freakns on Sun Dec 18, 2011 7:38 am

BoganGod wrote:Hey DJ you lazy brummie git. How about up dating the scores a little, let us see how badly we are suxing.

no no Boggy, you are one of the premium sucker on this site!
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [13-(1)-11 of 60 pts]

Postby Teflon Kris on Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:51 pm

This battle is proving to be a close and interesting one at this stage.

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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [19-(1)-16 of 60 pts]

Postby BoganGod on Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:33 am

Way to close for comfort. Well done so far FOED
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [24-(3)-23 of 60 pts]

Postby danryan on Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:30 pm

Whoever wins 2 of the 3 undecided games (Schloss, Hive, and Napo Europe) will win the challenge. It's 25-26 to BOFM currently based on decided games.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-23 of 60 pts]

Postby WPBRJ on Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:48 pm

wow right down to the wire i cant even pick a clan to win i like both clans and think playing ether one be fun

i have to say we already play foed in a lot of turnys have to say we generally break about even so maybe better to play them
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-23 of 60 pts]

Postby Royal Panda on Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:05 pm

WPBRJ wrote:wow right down to the wire i cant even pick a clan to win i like both clans and think playing ether one be fun

i have to say we already play foed in a lot of turnys have to say we generally break about even so maybe better to play them


Down to Hive... you guys could be waiting a while I'm afradi ;-)
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby danryan on Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:59 pm

Interesting strategy to deliberately miss turns in a no spoils game.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby Commander9 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:05 pm

danryan wrote:Interesting strategy to deliberately miss turns in a no spoils game.


Oh comon, they would never intentionally miss a turn to get an advantage ;)
But... It was so artistically done.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby L M S on Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:19 pm

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=162159

burninchaoz, GallantPellham, donny the bull, and DJ Teflon...gross abuse of the system.


Game 10179949

This is clearly gross abuse of the system.

Burninchaoz intentionally missed his turn to gain an advantage in next round's deploy. Obviously since they are a high level clan/team they were all in on the decision. Burninchaoz was able to play several speed games and take other turns during the time he "missed" his turn in the Hive game. He was able to take his turn but didn't, to gain a tactical advantage by abusing the system in place for deferred troops.

This is gross abuse of the system since they all know what will happen with the deferred troops and since he is (right now) in no danger of being eliminated.

Chickenshit way to play the game especially for a "high level clan" in a clan tournament.

Since the whole team had to have agreed on this, they should all be kicked from the game and warned. Maybe this will be the catalyst that changes the way deferred troops are handled.

At the very least its a strategically bullshit way to win the game, especially in a high profile game/tournament like this.

Accused:
burninchaoz
GallantPellham
donny the bull
DJ Teflon

The accused are suspected of:

Intentional/Gross abuse of the system.

Game number(s):
This is the game where the abuse took place. The "strategically' intentional miss to gain a tactical advantage by abusing the system.
Game 10179949

Examples of games to back up his ability to take the turns during the time period in question..
Game 10428978
Game 10429193
Game 10430544
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby anonymus on Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:43 pm

L M S wrote:http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=162159

burninchaoz, GallantPellham, donny the bull, and DJ Teflon...gross abuse of the system.


Game 10179949

This is clearly gross abuse of the system.

Burninchaoz intentionally missed his turn to gain an advantage in next round's deploy. Obviously since they are a high level clan/team they were all in on the decision. Burninchaoz was able to play several speed games and take other turns during the time he "missed" his turn in the Hive game. He was able to take his turn but didn't, to gain a tactical advantage by abusing the system in place for deferred troops.

This is gross abuse of the system since they all know what will happen with the deferred troops and since he is (right now) in no danger of being eliminated.

Chickenshit way to play the game especially for a "high level clan" in a clan tournament.

Since the whole team had to have agreed on this, they should all be kicked from the game and warned. Maybe this will be the catalyst that changes the way deferred troops are handled.

At the very least its a strategically bullshit way to win the game, especially in a high profile game/tournament like this.

Accused:
burninchaoz
GallantPellham
donny the bull
DJ Teflon

The accused are suspected of:

Intentional/Gross abuse of the system.

Game number(s):
This is the game where the abuse took place. The "strategically' intentional miss to gain a tactical advantage by abusing the system.
Game 10179949

Examples of games to back up his ability to take the turns during the time period in question..
Game 10428978
Game 10429193
Game 10430544


Im not involved in the game, but since he was not in danger of being eliminated why not take the turn and deploy on someone who is in danger of that?
of for that matter break some bonuses.. (that is probably what i would have done)

if old c&a threads on this topic has though us anything it is that it is ALWAYS an disadvantage to not deploy your troops if you have the chance to..

i fail to see the tactical advantage, and as proof that everyone can screw up and miss a turn, here is a 1v1 i was supposed to take today (but missed since i was making swedish meetballs with mushroom sause and califlower-puree for dinner and it took loner than expected) Game 10414650

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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:46 pm

Its a shame this kind of accusation is being made.

Although the rules state that missed turn situations in no spoils games will not be investigated as no advantage can be gained, I will ask jghost7 (who has been supporting tournament organisation for the ACC) to look into this anyway.

Sigh! :roll:
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby jghost7 on Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:27 pm

L M S wrote:...BTW, that statement, by the TO (who coincidentally is an accused) kinda proves premeditation and intent don't you think? Sort of an odd, arbitrary, random 'rule' to intentionally put in the tourney rules, in light of this eh?


No, it doesn't, nor is it odd, arbitrary, or random. It was even further scrutinized in the AOD vs 1RFG matchup where there was an issue regarding missed turns in an ACC game in the second round.

Here is a quote from the cd's from that war thread:
chemefreak wrote:....
-Did the missed turns in a "no spoils" game break a tournament rule? No. The rule was specifically put in place to avoid the intentional missing of turns in a nuclear game to avoid getting the final card. If the argument were made that this should apply to flat rate and escalating I would have to agree even with the knowledge that it was put in place for the nuclear issue only. However, the game at issue was a "no spoils" game. Thus, since the rule only applied to games WITH spoils, the rule was not broken by 1RFG. Accordingly, the TOs decision in this regard was appropriate. ....


After that incident the rules were given some extra detail, PMs sent out, and the details of the rules update posted in the main tourney thread here and here.

As it stands currently, there are no rules violations in evidence.
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby anonymus on Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:29 pm

this is from the C&A thread just a comment from an innocent passer by but i thought it was kind of a nugget and jsut wanted to share it..

Ickyketseddie wrote:If its such a benifit just miss your turns for a round and by your logic your sure to win?!? :?

Personally, like most here, i think they've just hurt they're chances of winning this one.


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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby danryan on Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:53 pm

Lol at the, nothing wrong here, move along folks comments. Any explanation why he missed when he played a number of speed games during that period? Did it "slip his mind"?
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Re: [ACC] Semi-Final - BoFM v FOED [26-(3)-27 of 60 pts]

Postby Draq on Sat Jan 14, 2012 7:18 pm

Is foed getting desperate or what? Even if he deliberatly missed the turn there is no rules against it cause there is no advantage missing a turn in a no spoils game, only disadvantage.In theory we can miss as many turns we like in no spoils games while playing speed games.

What prolly happend was burnin waiting for input from teammates, played some speedgames, forgot about Hive game. What´s the big deal? You gained advantage of it.
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