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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:13 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:and on that note where is TSM in 2008? They beat up on LoW They should be 3.... Empire beat nobody of note in 2008? Maybe they played ID late in the year?



empire played ID and beat them



I am trying to remember when tsm formed and played 1st challenge? I think low has been 2 for last couple years until recently, I;d have to ask jp.





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Postby jiminski on Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:52 am Which is the thread date.... after checking the results... Empire did not finish with ID until Jan 2009




tsm was a clan back in March 2008 I believe.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby jiminski on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:16 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:and on that note where is TSM in 2008? They beat up on LoW They should be 3.... Empire beat nobody of note in 2008? Maybe they played ID late in the year?



empire played ID and beat them



I am trying to remember when tsm formed and played 1st challenge? I think low has been 2 for last couple years until recently, I;d have to ask jp.





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Re: SPANKERS CORNER

Postby jiminski on Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:52 am Which is the thread date.... after checking the results... Empire did not finish with ID until Jan 2009




tsm was a clan back in March 2008 I believe.


sheese read my post you old Shire! .. heh though i may've waffled a tad ; )
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby waseemalim on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:18 pm

LoW did come second in last year's clan league.

And if you want to go by Clan Challenge. TSM had a better margin against LOW (34-26) than Thota did (32-28).

Which means, you should either Put Low as second in 2009 or TSM as number 1. If you go by JP's random tables LOW was 1st for a while.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:19 pm

jiminski wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:and on that note where is TSM in 2008? They beat up on LoW They should be 3.... Empire beat nobody of note in 2008? Maybe they played ID late in the year?



empire played ID and beat them



I am trying to remember when tsm formed and played 1st challenge? I think low has been 2 for last couple years until recently, I;d have to ask jp.





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Re: SPANKERS CORNER

Postby jiminski on Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:52 am Which is the thread date.... after checking the results... Empire did not finish with ID until Jan 2009




tsm was a clan back in March 2008 I believe.


sheese read my post you old Shire! .. heh though i may've waffled a tad ; )


lol, I only knew that cause I read your challenge thread. :lol:


I probably should read the posts more though, lol
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:20 pm

waseemalim wrote:LoW did come second in last year's clan league.

And if you want to go by Clan Challenge. TSM had a better margin against LOW (34-26) than Thota did (32-28).

Which means, you should either Put Low as second in 2009 or TSM as number 1. If you go by JP's random tables LOW was 1st for a while.



I am not going by 1 table or one week or even one month, but, a collective sum of the entire year.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:24 pm

page 1

does this seem pretty reasonable? I am open for debate and change and have made some due to the posts in here, the changes have been edited and reflected on page 1.


anyone else have a the rankings of they believe the top 5 clans were for the years 2006 - 2010?

or does page 1 serve pretty fair and reasonable?
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby waseemalim on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:26 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
waseemalim wrote:LoW did come second in last year's clan league.

And if you want to go by Clan Challenge. TSM had a better margin against LOW (34-26) than Thota did (32-28).

Which means, you should either Put Low as second in 2009 or TSM as number 1. If you go by JP's random tables LOW was 1st for a while.



I am not going by 1 table or one week or even one month, but, a collective sum of the entire year.


So what is our collective sum that year?
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:26 pm

waseemalim wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
waseemalim wrote:LoW did come second in last year's clan league.

And if you want to go by Clan Challenge. TSM had a better margin against LOW (34-26) than Thota did (32-28).

Which means, you should either Put Low as second in 2009 or TSM as number 1. If you go by JP's random tables LOW was 1st for a while.



I am not going by 1 table or one week or even one month, but, a collective sum of the entire year.


So what is our collective sum that year?



2008 or 2009?
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby waseemalim on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:27 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
waseemalim wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
waseemalim wrote:LoW did come second in last year's clan league.

And if you want to go by Clan Challenge. TSM had a better margin against LOW (34-26) than Thota did (32-28).

Which means, you should either Put Low as second in 2009 or TSM as number 1. If you go by JP's random tables LOW was 1st for a while.



I am not going by 1 table or one week or even one month, but, a collective sum of the entire year.


So what is our collective sum that year?



2008 or 2009?


2009 of course.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby jpcloet on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:31 pm

Explain KOE, they never even won a challenge.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Georgerx7di on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:32 pm

Tofu should be on 2009 list, I think they won all three of their challenges in 2009.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:34 pm

waseemalim wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
waseemalim wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
waseemalim wrote:LoW did come second in last year's clan league.

And if you want to go by Clan Challenge. TSM had a better margin against LOW (34-26) than Thota did (32-28).

Which means, you should either Put Low as second in 2009 or TSM as number 1. If you go by JP's random tables LOW was 1st for a while.



I am not going by 1 table or one week or even one month, but, a collective sum of the entire year.


So what is our collective sum that year?



2008 or 2009?


2009 of course.



ok, 2008 I had you ranked #2

and 2009 I had you ranked #2

then bruce posted and made me think, and I edit you to 3, cause of the Tsm match vs you Low head to head, however, if you look over the entire year, I probably would have Low ranked #2, although, there is gr8 argument that Tsm was #2. As far as Jp's stats over the cours of the entire year, at last a majority of the months Low was 2, this is why I put you #2 originally, however, with Tsm beating you guys a few different challenges, it would be hard for me to put them 3. So, Tsm and Low in my view over the course of the whole year of 2009 were #2 and #3 clans and real close, but, went with Bruce on Tsm slightly, then Tsm came on real strong the last 4 months of 2009, and they were and are real close to #1.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Bruceswar on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:34 pm

Georgerx7di wrote:Tofu should be on 2009 list, I think they won all three of their challenges in 2009.



But they did not hit the scene till mid summer at least? So hence only half a years worth of data.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:36 pm

jpcloet wrote:Explain KOE, they never even won a challenge.



I think they did, it just be not be recorded. I remember them winning right off that bat off some clans and bragging about, then challenging us. although I think the clan match ups they won were Not official, but, they did have a strong clan of players. who would you rank in there place that year Jp?
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby waseemalim on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:37 pm

And Thota shouldn't be on top of anything in 2010. At least not yet. The only games completed in 2010 are the clan league games and the monki games -- in both of those the showing has been a bit off. If anything O&H should be on top of 2010 list.

Tsm slightly, then Tsm came on real strong the last 4 months of 2009, and they were and are real close to #1.


Explain what that means please. They came 3rd in the League, and had a 22-18 victory versus IA.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:38 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Georgerx7di wrote:Tofu should be on 2009 list, I think they won all three of their challenges in 2009.



But they did not hit the scene till mid summer at least? So hence only half a years worth of data.


correct, is why they just missed the list for 2009. I would of had them 6 or 7. Although I do think they are top 3 best overall in my view, maybe even #1, they are damn good. Hard to put about 6 months of games over clans with 12 months.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:41 pm

waseemalim wrote:And Thota shouldn't be on top of anything in 2010. At least not yet. The only games completed in 2010 are the clan league games and the monki games -- in both of those the showing has been a bit off. If anything O&H should be on top of 2010 list.

Tsm slightly, then Tsm came on real strong the last 4 months of 2009, and they were and are real close to #1.


Explain what that means please. They came 3rd in the League, and had a 22-18 victory versus IA.


I also thought they beat you guys a couple times?

Thota has remained undefeated wass since 2007, we beat the top clans every year, and rolls over, so we've been #1 but 4 years str8, never losing, so I would say we still #1 until someone dethrones us, also we won the clan season one league as well in 2009. As far as 2010, if the year ended right now, that would be the top 5 in order, but, like I said, there is 10 months left and 2010 list can change easy by the end of this year.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby waseemalim on Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:52 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:I also thought they beat you guys a couple times?

Thota has remained undefeated wass since 2007, we beat the top clans every year, and rolls over, so we've been #1 but 4 years str8, never losing, so I would say we still #1 until someone dethrones us, also we won the clan season one league as well in 2009. As far as 2010, if the year ended right now, that would be the top 5 in order, but, like I said, there is 10 months left and 2010 list can change easy by the end of this year.



If the year ended right now EMPIRE and IA shouldn't be on the list -- I really don't see what EMPIRE has going for them, at our worst state we beat them 16-14. TSM beat us within the clan league in 2009 but they came third overall (despite being in the same division as us). They did beat us in 2008 in a challenge, so you can put them as second that year -- but they were a nascent clan then.

LoW should be on the 2007 list, we had a good showing versus TUC and Skyforce.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Blitzaholic on Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:15 pm

waseemalim wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:I also thought they beat you guys a couple times?

Thota has remained undefeated wass since 2007, we beat the top clans every year, and rolls over, so we've been #1 but 4 years str8, never losing, so I would say we still #1 until someone dethrones us, also we won the clan season one league as well in 2009. As far as 2010, if the year ended right now, that would be the top 5 in order, but, like I said, there is 10 months left and 2010 list can change easy by the end of this year.



If the year ended right now EMPIRE and IA shouldn't be on the list -- I really don't see what EMPIRE has going for them, at our worst state we beat them 16-14. TSM beat us within the clan league in 2009 but they came third overall (despite being in the same division as us). They did beat us in 2008 in a challenge, so you can put them as second that year -- but they were a nascent clan then.

LoW should be on the 2007 list, we had a good showing versus TUC and Skyforce.



oh yeah, I forgot about you beating them in 2007, ok, let me think on this. I will remain open. Do you mind giving me your personal opinion of what you think the top 5 clans were for 2009 in order over the entire year and body of work?


edit: added Low in the top 5 for year 2007.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby jpcloet on Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:33 pm

2007 should include.....

The Untouchables
LOD

who both had very good showings in the attempted clan league at that time. Heck, Dragoons had 2 teams in there at the time and were doing well. LOD had several wins in 2007 including over BH. LOD tied THOTA in that league in their matchup.

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KOE split into LOD and TUC. Most of the old LOD members in that challenge now belong to LOW who were formed out of LOD eg Reptile etc.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Georgerx7di on Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:37 am

I wasn't into clans back in 2007, so I don't have personal experience. However, Bushwackers officially show a record of 0-1, perhaps they shouldn't make the list.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Incandenza on Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:50 am

Georgerx7di wrote:I wasn't into clans back in 2007, so I don't have personal experience. However, Bushwackers officially show a record of 0-1, perhaps they shouldn't make the list.


I dunno, bro, the bushwackers were badass... alster, eye, neph, ak, highborn, eddymush, I think even milk jugs was a BW at one point. Not a clan to be taken lightly.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:49 am

Incandenza wrote:
Georgerx7di wrote:I wasn't into clans back in 2007, so I don't have personal experience. However, Bushwackers officially show a record of 0-1, perhaps they shouldn't make the list.


I dunno, bro, the bushwackers were badass... alster, eye, neph, ak, highborn, eddymush, I think even milk jugs was a BW at one point. Not a clan to be taken lightly.



Ya know.. I played with Eddie mush when I first got here. We could not win a thing together! Maybe it was me or maybe it was him or a combo of the 2. I was a major or so and he was a Corp first class? I was 2 months into CC as I remember, maybe 3... but yeah... still from what else I hear he is top notch.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby khazalid on Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:55 am

the mushman taught me how to play. i think he lost interest but kept playing, so his score tanked.. but i'm sure he was conqueror on here for a while. was a great player in his prime.
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Re: TOP 5 CC CLANS by Year

Postby Bruceswar on Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:51 am

khazalid wrote:the mushman taught me how to play. i think he lost interest but kept playing, so his score tanked.. but i'm sure he was conqueror on here for a while. was a great player in his prime.



Ahh ok that makes sense... Eddy is one of the forgotten greats. I think poo-maker will turn that way for many ...
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