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jefjef wrote:Fact based post:
This is not about hating the pack. It's about atrocious behavior.
From the IA war thread - Oct 3rd. - page 21...chemefreak wrote:I just want to let everyone know that the CDs are watching this thread closely. I also want to remind you all of the following:
Subject: Clan Medals [Revamp 2011]War Thread Behaviour
In order to curb some poor behaviour in the war threads, players will be denied medals if their behaviour is deemed to be disruptive or inappropriate, even if it does not meet the site wide policy for a forum infraction. In the past, we’ve locked war threads due to the behaviour of a single individual, thus inherently punishing both clans. In order to be consistent, this will only be applied by the Clan Dept Head (most often these issues are raised by the CD team).
In other words, let's keep this civil. Thanks.
Yes you were warned. Publicly and also by private message according to one of your posts around page 36.
codeblue1018 wrote:Pack hating? No, not so much pal; don't flatter yourself. Your clan made complete and utter fools of yourselves-no one will disagree with that. As a result, rules, CC rules were violated and therefore consequences followed. As leader of your Clan Ollie, you allowed your members to run amuck in forum and only "stopped" it once mods became involved. Move on mate, rebuild The Packs reputation and maybe one day you can resurrect yourselves.
Perhaps the mods could have handled this better; I won't disagree with that, however action should have been taken. Ollie you resorted to flaming me as did JD once I made my first post in here. I made no negative reference to you; I merely said sound decision. Think before you type mate; this is what got you into this mess to begin with.
JD really? Should I be concerned about clan medals? Lol. Nice comeback.
codeblue1018 wrote:Pack hating? No, not so much pal; don't flatter yourself. Your clan made complete and utter fools of yourselves-no one will disagree with that. As a result, rules, CC rules were violated and therefore consequences followed. As leader of your Clan Ollie, you allowed your members to run amuck in forum and only "stopped" it once mods became involved. Move on mate, rebuild The Packs reputation and maybe one day you can resurrect yourselves.
Perhaps the mods could have handled this better; I won't disagree with that, however action should have been taken. Ollie you resorted to flaming me as did JD once I made my first post in here. I made no negative reference to you; I merely said sound decision. Think before you type mate; this is what got you into this mess to begin with.
JD really? Should I be concerned about clan medals? Lol. Nice comeback.
malevolous wrote:Maybe I'm just excessively innocent here, but I really doubt there is a conspiracy/secret agenda. No one gains anything by making CC less fun. I followed the thread in question for a while, but stopped at some point in early October due to what was being said. I have a lot of respect for many members of the Pack as players, but I'm inclined to believe the thread warranted some discipline. On that note, maybe Cheme has beef and the punishment was excessive, but I trust the CDs to be moderate as, again, I believe they only have the best interests of the site in mind. I just really doubt all the CDs are out to get someone, and think that, for what I saw on the forum, intervention was necessary. They made a decision based on the rules as they stood at the start of the war, and I don't think this thread will do anything positive. Just my $.02
Thus far the thread is highly amusing and right on the edge (give or take a word or two) of what a WAR thread probably should look like. If anyone has any further issues please feel free to message any of the CDs for further discussions.
Great-Ollie wrote:malevolous wrote:Maybe I'm just excessively innocent here, but I really doubt there is a conspiracy/secret agenda. No one gains anything by making CC less fun. I followed the thread in question for a while, but stopped at some point in early October due to what was being said. I have a lot of respect for many members of the Pack as players, but I'm inclined to believe the thread warranted some discipline. On that note, maybe Cheme has beef and the punishment was excessive, but I trust the CDs to be moderate as, again, I believe they only have the best interests of the site in mind. I just really doubt all the CDs are out to get someone, and think that, for what I saw on the forum, intervention was necessary. They made a decision based on the rules as they stood at the start of the war, and I don't think this thread will do anything positive. Just my $.02
Normally totally agree with you bud, but chemefreak has stated in private pm that he is going to make example out of our clan. Secondly publically stated he hated our clan, and thirdly will not provide any explanations why certain members were stripped of their medals. Everything was great, we won the war, we behaved ourselves, everything was looking good. Then chemefreak did this. We obeyed all rules after our warning and this is what we got. We were already to move on and obey forum guidelines from our last warning, yet chemefreak knew he could get us going. Why respect them when they show us no respect? We kept our end of the bargain, then they totally screwed us, hence why anyone who is an outsider does not get that chemefreak is out to destroy us and is doing a great job.
malevolous wrote:Great-Ollie wrote:malevolous wrote:Maybe I'm just excessively innocent here, but I really doubt there is a conspiracy/secret agenda. No one gains anything by making CC less fun. I followed the thread in question for a while, but stopped at some point in early October due to what was being said. I have a lot of respect for many members of the Pack as players, but I'm inclined to believe the thread warranted some discipline. On that note, maybe Cheme has beef and the punishment was excessive, but I trust the CDs to be moderate as, again, I believe they only have the best interests of the site in mind. I just really doubt all the CDs are out to get someone, and think that, for what I saw on the forum, intervention was necessary. They made a decision based on the rules as they stood at the start of the war, and I don't think this thread will do anything positive. Just my $.02
Normally totally agree with you bud, but chemefreak has stated in private pm that he is going to make example out of our clan. Secondly publically stated he hated our clan, and thirdly will not provide any explanations why certain members were stripped of their medals. Everything was great, we won the war, we behaved ourselves, everything was looking good. Then chemefreak did this. We obeyed all rules after our warning and this is what we got. We were already to move on and obey forum guidelines from our last warning, yet chemefreak knew he could get us going. Why respect them when they show us no respect? We kept our end of the bargain, then they totally screwed us, hence why anyone who is an outsider does not get that chemefreak is out to destroy us and is doing a great job.
I know it sucks, and maybe he is. I don't know, but generally taking personal feuds and making them public only antagonizes people. If its figured out in private #1 no one will get publicly humiliated in public, making compromise easier to reach and #2 will avoid splitting the rest of the site over an issue that is really only between .1%(assuming roughly 20 people are involved) of the population. Again, just my opinion, but I don't think this thread will do anything positive.
Night Strike wrote:Why don't you let clan issues stay in the clan forums instead of spamming them elsewhere? The only goal here is to get all the people sympathetic to your point to post in outrage rather than to become knowledgeable about the situation.
Stephen Wayne wrote:Night Strike wrote:Why don't you let clan issues stay in the clan forums instead of spamming them elsewhere? The only goal here is to get all the people sympathetic to your point to post in outrage rather than to become knowledgeable about the situation.
There is the possibility this is to gain support for a change in rules.
Great-Ollie wrote:Actually i was hoping to get everyone's opinion, so why don't you let me post in general discussion? Do i not have the right to do that now? Why are the mods trying to continue to derail me and my quest for answers. Spamming? Really, can i not value opinions outside the clan world when it comes to mod abuse and rules pertaining to this website? Please only constructive opinions here. Thanks
gradybridges wrote:So silly not to give them the medal they earned.
There were alot of people talking trash in that thead, many not in THE PACK or IA trying to stir shit up. And then like all heated internet threads it gets stupid and goes on and on. Are people on here really that fragile that the thread hurt their feelings? I don't see the big deal. There were many "guilty" parties and to punish only 1 clan is a bad way to go.
Where there any penalties discussed for the non PACK/IA who were stirring the pot? Can't take away a medal. What about banning them from their next clan war?
If you don't like THE PACK and all their trash talk there is one way to shut them up-beat them in a war. And you don't have to read past the first post in the clan war thread if trash talking from people you will never meet on the opposite side of the world bothers you.
I hope the war with IA isn't an excuse for the top 4 clans not to play THE PACK.
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