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chemefreak wrote:Soon we will be issuing MVP awards for clan wars. I believe that this is starting for any clan war that began after July 1, 2011. We are still nailing down the exact "science" of the award, but to be honest, it is pretty easy to see who the MVP for each clan was once you review the numbers.
the person who runs the training games (they are not winning the games)
the person who researches into the the other clan. (cant be doing this properly)
the person running off site database of games.(can't really be holding acurate database.
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
eddie2 wrote:well would it not be better pushing for the special award chemefreak was talking about earlier. you are talking about 1 award per year for your most valid player. chemefreak and clan mods are at present discussing 1 award per winning clan for most valid player so in real theory what this sug is doing is changing what clan mods are already discussing . AKA as a clan at present have a few valuble players who do extra work for the clan.
aka members are as follows.
far2ezee= has created a off site database for clan info and keeps it up to date.
razorvich+ dorsettrob+far2ezee= helped loads during my recient 1 month forum ban
wille e cyote= runs all our training games.
enormantitz wilkinc aligator_al studster9143 proberly 4 of the clans strongest players who are always checking games and making sure the clan comunicate in game.
now we look at the 2 things being discussed.
jefjefs sug
to award all these players a medal it would take 8 years.
clan mods ideas.
this would take 8 war wins which is about correct.
think of it if you are playing loads of wars but never winning you cant really say you have a player worthy of a special award for contribution. because if you not winning there not doing it correct. I am still for this sug but think it would be better putting it together with what clan mods are all ready discussing.
it is not necessary for the recipient of this medal to actually play any war games all year.
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
jefjef wrote:it is not necessary for the recipient of this medal to actually play any war games all year.
Yes it would be necessary for the recipient to be an active player and active in the clan and a member for at least a year. Why in the world would a non active player deserve any recognition.
FYI: If KOA were allowed to grant this award today it would go to IcePack. He was a major factor in forming and recruiting. He has performed Minister of War duties. He had been my map rank guy. He is managing an important thread in our forum. He also has been a positive influence and a friendly representative of KOA.
We have several members that also contribute their valuable time and talents but I don't think anyone could really argue against IcePacks clan contributions. Now if I were to give the award to, lets say bruinMBA (who is not active), just because he is a good long time CC pal of mine I'm sure all of KOA would tell me to f-off and ram it. Especially those that do contribute. The moral of the story is that the award should not be handed out lightly or unjustly and only to an active contributing member.
It would be great for leaders to be able to recognize a member for improvements/overall performance/managing wars/training/attitude/assisting/stats keeping - for whatever reason each clans leaders would decide.
chemefreak wrote:Soon we will be issuing MVP awards for clan wars. I believe that this is starting for any clan war that began after July 1, 2011. We are still nailing down the exact "science" of the award, but to be honest, it is pretty easy to see who the MVP for each clan was once you review the numbers.
QoH wrote:Do you not get it Eddie? This is NOT an mvp award. This is a CONTRIBUTION award. Just cause you don't win doesn't mean you don't contribute in enormous was in the clan. Look at TNC. When I was with them, they challenged a ton of high ranked clamer right from the start (i think). Do you expect them to win any off those? No. Bit can you deny that somone wasn't putting in hours of work wroth of recognition? Obviously somone has. They'd deserve it, regardless of whether they were winning.
Again, you shouldn't have to win to get this medal.
eddie2 wrote:QoH wrote:Do you not get it Eddie? This is NOT an mvp award. This is a CONTRIBUTION award. Just cause you don't win doesn't mean you don't contribute in enormous was in the clan. Look at TNC. When I was with them, they challenged a ton of high ranked clamer right from the start (i think). Do you expect them to win any off those? No. Bit can you deny that somone wasn't putting in hours of work wroth of recognition? Obviously somone has. They'd deserve it, regardless of whether they were winning.
Again, you shouldn't have to win to get this medal.
yes i do get that Qoh but the problem being how do you prove they have done what you are saying. at present the only mods that have the ability to issue special medals is department heads. and they are not allowed to hand them out left right and centre. sorry but if a clan cannot win any for of challenge then they do not have 1 single player doing the extra work apart from the person that is running the thread or creating the games. But this will be covered in clan mods new medal .
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
There can be a MAX of 2 medals per tournament, except under extremely rare and special circumstances, which the Tournament Directors will discuss and decide upon. Take this into consideration when planning your tournaments. If you are a co-organizer, you are not guaranteed a medal just for that, you must prove you have done a significant amount of work to help the tournament move forward to completion. This would include things such as creating games, record-keeping, and sending PMs to players. The awarding of medals to co-organizers will be considered on a case-by-case basis. We recommend that tournaments be run by one person as often as possible to avoid confusion.
eddie2 wrote:don't dare say clans are different to tourney rules. because cla have been stating they are ever since we started using privs
this sug you are saying they have to go by the word of a leader that a member has done some work for the clan.
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
TheForgivenOne wrote:Eddie, you have been told before to stay away from jefjef. You have presented your case many times, and jefjef and others have responded to them enough. They have been telling you that this is not an MVP award. This is also a once a year medal handed out. Do you really think that his is going to be abused by players in clans, saying "player x did all this work", when it was actually player y? There is an undeniable amount of work done behind the scenes by each clan. Do you really think that these players don't deserve recognition for all this work?
drunkmonkey wrote:I'm filing a C&A report right now. Its nice because they have a drop-down for "jefjef".
eddie2 wrote:thank you jeraado someone that is willing to actually discuss things. so mvp award from what i have been told could also include the players that do any form of work for a clan that helps them with winning the wars. if the mvp award does bring these in then this sug wont go anywhere because i cannot see admin allowing a medal to be issued 2 times.
chapcrap wrote:
QoH is right, the MVP award will be given at the CDs discretion based almost solely on gameplay within the war, not based on training, recruiting, and homework on opposing clans.
Soon we will be issuing MVP awards for clan wars. I believe that this is starting for any clan war that began after July 1, 2011. We are still nailing down the exact "science" of the award,
eddie2 wrote:chapcrap wrote:
QoH is right, the MVP award will be given at the CDs discretion based almost solely on gameplay within the war, not based on training, recruiting, and homework on opposing clans.
did chemefreak actually say that the mvp award will be based solely on game play no he did not this is what he said.Soon we will be issuing MVP awards for clan wars. I believe that this is starting for any clan war that began after July 1, 2011. We are still nailing down the exact "science" of the award,
have any of you even bothered asking a clan director what the exact science would be for the issueing of the award. I will say no you have not. because if you had you would know what i know. and would see i was only hel;ping jefjef get part of his sug approved.
chapcrap wrote: you can infer that it is only based on gameplay.
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