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Old India 1.3 concept

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jul 07, 2025 9:53 am

Map Name: Old India concept
Mapmaker(s): SoN!c, Plurple; Josko.ri
Number of Territories:56
Special Features: 2 seperate worlds
What Makes This Map Worthy of Being Made:

I was not sure i'd post this but all that work is done after josko wanted an old india map and i'd better share it i guess? But it will depend on Plurple if he likes it or not. And when he can find the time.

But its a great idea! India is also a big potential cc marhet

So the inner circle world and the outer circle world only connects :

from outer circle > deity to same symbol "nirwana" (the white regions, a killer reset), from there to the four elements terr and the 4 elements terr only connects to the temple with same symbol and
from inner circle to outer circle: vice versa if you hold all 4 temples (conditional border)

The key territories ofcourse start as fixed neutrals..

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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jul 07, 2025 10:08 am

And a cool feature would be that Plurple one of a kind transforming stuff for the circle terrs O:) There is room for legend O:) O:)
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby josko.ri on Mon Jul 07, 2025 11:53 am

Sure, i will contribute. I actually have a friend who is ancient Indian and I can ask him for advice. You know, Indians believe that some people found a way for eternal life and they never die nor get aged. This friend is THAT type of person.
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jul 07, 2025 12:16 pm

josko.ri wrote:Sure, i will contribute. I actually have a friend who is ancient Indian and I can ask him for advice. You know, Indians believe that some people found a way for eternal life and they never die nor get aged. This friend is THAT type of person.


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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby josko.ri on Mon Jul 07, 2025 2:29 pm

my friend told that the map is VERY accurate. i will discuss which improvements may be made with him.
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Mon Jul 07, 2025 2:39 pm

josko.ri wrote:my friend told that the map is VERY accurate. i will discuss which improvements may be made with him.


So a great start. Sweet! O:)

In the outer circle i was thinking to have autodeploys on the gods (+1) and then this cool feature:

At the start of each round every terr in the outer circle (the gods realm) gets a +1 added, and +3 bonus for each 6 unique connected terrs

In the innercircle an autodeploy on the temples (+2 or +3), and a +6 for each 9 unique connected terrs
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Tue Jul 08, 2025 10:57 am

That could like this legend wise:

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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby chanakam2020 on Fri Jul 11, 2025 1:42 am

from outer circle > deity to same symbol "nirwana"


If the map is Hinduism themed, then I think the more apporpriate and widely used word among hindu devotees is "Moksha".
The word "Nirvana" is mostly used in related to Buddhism although some times the term "Nirvana" used as synonym for "Moksha" in Hinduism and similar ultimate status in other religions such as Jainism and Sikhism.

See below Wiki pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:14 am

chanakam2020 wrote:
from outer circle > deity to same symbol "nirwana"


If the map is Hinduism themed, then I think the more apporpriate and widely used word among hindu devotees is "Moksha".
The word "Nirvana" is mostly used in related to Buddhism although some times the term "Nirvana" used as synonym for "Moksha" in Hinduism and similar ultimate status in other religions such as Jainism and Sikhism.

See below Wiki pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana


Thanks, buts it's ment to appease all India - so hindu and Buddhism alike: Buddhism and Hinduism have common origins in the culture of Nepal and Ancient India..

Both religions have influenced each other too so that a little bit of cross-pollination should be in the map.;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_and_Hinduism
[i]Buddhism and Hinduism have common origins in the culture of Nepal and Ancient India, which later spread and became dominant religions in Southeast Asian countries, including Cambodia and Indonesia around the 4th century CE. Buddhism arose in the Gangetic plains of Eastern India in the 5th century BCE during the Second Urbanisation (600–200 BCE).Hinduism developed as a fusion or synthesis of practices and ideas from the ancient Vedic religion and elements and deities from other local Indian traditions.

Both religions share many beliefs and practices but also exhibit pronounced differences that have led to significant debate.[4] Both religions share a belief in karma and rebirth (or reincarnation). They both accept the idea of spiritual liberation (moksha or nirvana) from the cycle of reincarnation and promote similar religious practices, such as dhyana, samadhi, mantra, and devotion. Both religions also share many deities (though their nature is understood differently), including Saraswati, Vishnu (Upulvan), Mahakala, Indra, Ganesha, and Brahma.

That is why the deities are much Vishnu (Upulvan), Ganesha, and Brahma looking - multiple gods while kali should be in there too as she is well known in the world (im gonna change her head later)

And ofcourse a little bit of mystery is always appealing while the map is ofcourse mostly designed for gameplay purposes above anything else

And ofcourse "nivana" is known in the entire world while "moksha" not so much, (to appeal the rest of the world too ;-).

India is a hughe market for CC i believe. Getting 5000 paying players from India should be possible.. :D Who knows? But why not.

So it has to appeal to all of India - Josko should do the game mechanics but i want the XML features that are on Geometry(Beta) as no other maps have them.
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby chanakam2020 on Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:31 am

chanakam2020 wrote:
from outer circle > deity to same symbol "nirwana"


If the map is Hinduism themed, then I think the more apporpriate and widely used word among hindu devotees is "Moksha".
The word "Nirvana" is mostly used in related to Buddhism although some times the term "Nirvana" used as synonym for "Moksha" in Hinduism and similar ultimate status in other religions such as Jainism and Sikhism.

See below Wiki pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana



Thanks, buts it's ment to appease all India - so hindu and Buddhism alike: Buddhism and Hinduism have common origins in the culture of Nepal and Ancient India..


I said above thing because of the map graphics. It shows Hindu Gods & Vedic Symbols only and as I see there are no elements of other religions related stuffs in the map graphics.
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Fri Jul 11, 2025 2:37 am

chanakam2020 wrote:
chanakam2020 wrote:
from outer circle > deity to same symbol "nirwana"


If the map is Hinduism themed, then I think the more apporpriate and widely used word among hindu devotees is "Moksha".
The word "Nirvana" is mostly used in related to Buddhism although some times the term "Nirvana" used as synonym for "Moksha" in Hinduism and similar ultimate status in other religions such as Jainism and Sikhism.

See below Wiki pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana



Thanks, buts it's ment to appease all India - so hindu and Buddhism alike: Buddhism and Hinduism have common origins in the culture of Nepal and Ancient India..


I said above thing because of the map graphics. It shows Hindu Gods & Vedic Symbols only and as I see there are no elements of other religions related stuffs in the map graphics.


So we replace one diety for a Manjushri bodhisattva? What are the suggestions?
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby chanakam2020 on Fri Jul 11, 2025 4:56 am

SoN!c wrote:
chanakam2020 wrote:
chanakam2020 wrote:
from outer circle > deity to same symbol "nirwana"


If the map is Hinduism themed, then I think the more apporpriate and widely used word among hindu devotees is "Moksha".
The word "Nirvana" is mostly used in related to Buddhism although some times the term "Nirvana" used as synonym for "Moksha" in Hinduism and similar ultimate status in other religions such as Jainism and Sikhism.

See below Wiki pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moksha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana



Thanks, buts it's ment to appease all India - so hindu and Buddhism alike: Buddhism and Hinduism have common origins in the culture of Nepal and Ancient India..


I said above thing because of the map graphics. It shows Hindu Gods & Vedic Symbols only and as I see there are no elements of other religions related stuffs in the map graphics.


So we replace one diety for a Manjushri bodhisattva? What are the suggestions?


Bodhisattva concept is related to a branch of Budhism which called Mahayana.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana
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Mahayana buddhism is mostly gret in far Eastern countries such as Japan, China and Korea & Historically or currently not a noticiable practice in India.

show: Dharmachakra


I Suggest to symbolize buddhism you may include the "Dharmachakra" Symbol which is universally accpepted symbol across all branches of Buddhism. The Ashoka Chakra shown in the middle of current indian flag also got influenced from "Dharmachakra".
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Fri Jul 11, 2025 10:01 am

chanakam2020 wrote:
I Suggest to symbolize buddhism you may include the "Dharmachakra" Symbol which is universally accpepted symbol across all branches of Buddhism. The Ashoka Chakra shown in the middle of current indian flag also got influenced from "Dharmachakra".
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Okay, i made 4 same looking but very small different "dharmachakra's" and changed the head of kali diety (with a bigger tongue and more evil twisted look :D ), changed two other dieties completely (one with the head of a fairy tale catish creature to appeal cat people like chanakam :D ) and some extra legend lines:

Old India 1.1:

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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby chanakam2020 on Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:52 am

SoN!c wrote:
chanakam2020 wrote:
I Suggest to symbolize buddhism you may include the "Dharmachakra" Symbol which is universally accpepted symbol across all branches of Buddhism. The Ashoka Chakra shown in the middle of current indian flag also got influenced from "Dharmachakra".
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Okay, i made 4 same looking but very small different "dharmachakra's" and changed the head of kali diety (with a bigger tongue and more evil twisted look :D ), changed two other dieties completely (one with the head of a fairy tale catish creature to appeal cat people like chanakam :D ) and some extra legend lines:



Looked at map image and I see there are images of some structures which are relared to Hinduism, Sikhism or Islam .
So if you have space , you may include The Sanchi Stupa to Map.

The Sanchi Stupa, located in Madhya Pradesh, India, is a significant Buddhist complex, renowned for its Great Stupa (Stupa No. 1), one of the oldest stone structures in India. It's a UNESCO World Heritage site and a popular tourist destination, showcasing Buddhist architecture and art.

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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Sat Jul 12, 2025 4:40 am

chanakam2020 wrote:Looked at map image and I see there are images of some structures which are relared to Hinduism, Sikhism or Islam .
So if you have space , you may include The Sanchi Stupa to Map.



Old India 1.2 concept with 3 new temples including Sanchi Stupa at the correct location and named the 4 elements at respective diety, and changed terrs to match +9 (both have exactly 16 terrs) and +6 bonus (both +6 bonusses have each 11 terrs):

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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby chanakam2020 on Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:18 am

SoN!c wrote:
chanakam2020 wrote:Looked at map image and I see there are images of some structures which are relared to Hinduism, Sikhism or Islam .
So if you have space , you may include The Sanchi Stupa to Map.


Old India 1.2 concept with 3 new temples including Sanchi Stupa at the correct location and named the 4 elements at respective diety, and changed terrs to match +9 (both have exactly 16 terrs) and +6 bonus (both +6 bonusses have each 11 terrs):


Can you try Sanchi Stupa image bit more white color and see how it look.
I guess more whitish color image may show the carvings of Torana(The Gateway) of Sanchi Stupa better with map terrotory background colors.
The Sanchi Torana at Great Sanchi Stupa No 1 is a unique and significat thing to that structure.

And also in real world, most Stupas are whitish color.
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby SoN!c on Sat Jul 12, 2025 6:26 am

chanakam2020 wrote:
SoN!c wrote:
chanakam2020 wrote:Looked at map image and I see there are images of some structures which are relared to Hinduism, Sikhism or Islam .
So if you have space , you may include The Sanchi Stupa to Map.


Old India 1.2 concept with 3 new temples including Sanchi Stupa at the correct location and named the 4 elements at respective diety, and changed terrs to match +9 (both have exactly 16 terrs) and +6 bonus (both +6 bonusses have each 11 terrs):


Can you try Sanchi Stupa image bit more white color and see how it look.
I guess more whitish color image may show the carvings of Torana(The Gateway) of Sanchi Stupa better with map terrotory background colors.
The Sanchi Torana at Great Sanchi Stupa No 1 is a unique and significat thing to that structure.

And also in real world, most Stupas are whitish color.
See the image below.

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I understand but if we make the temples white, what colour are we gonna use for the nirwana terrs to stand out?

but' i'll try for you
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Re: Old India 1.0 concept

Postby chanakam2020 on Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:39 am

I understand but if we make the temples white, what colour are we gonna use for the nirwana terrs to stand out?
but' i'll try for you


What I mean was not 100% white. Some near white (little grayish) color from this area which is different from Nirvana color might work better.
Just try if you got time.
And I mean was the near white color for Sanchi Stupa structure and not for the Madhya pradesh territory color.

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By the way what software do you use to make map graphics.
In case If it is GIMP and if you are willing to share XCF file I like to try to play little bit with graphics.

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Re: Old India 1.2 concept

Postby SoN!c on Sat Jul 12, 2025 8:46 am

Old India 1.3:

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The Sanchi Torana gate is in the map (between deity and it's number 2 terr) to symbolise the passage

2 new temples and "old india name + symbol" on the map, 2 extra terrs (2x16 and 2x12)

changed a few terr locations
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