Question about deadbeating rules [Answered]

[Georgerx7di]

I know this belongs in Q & A, but nobody goes there.

What if I decided (haven't done it), to play seq. speed dubs on some map. And my strategy was for one of us to deadbeat and the other guy to go it alone. Forget about whether its a smart idea for a second, would this be against the rules?

[oVo]

You're right, this does belong in Q&A and plenty of people pass thru there.

Effective or not... that seems like a tactic/strategy, that while obnoxious,
doesn't seem to break the rules.

But, as a team tactic... you are giving up a lot by taking this course of inaction

[Georgerx7di]

well I have a map in mind where i think it would work. I want to try it out of sheer curiosity, but I want to make sure it's not against the rules first.

[King_Herpes]

I've seen a team do it on feudal war before and win. It's not illegal to purposely miss your turns unless you're point dumping or holding a fremium captive I would think.

[oVo]

I'm guessing "Strategy" is the actual forum where this seed should be planted. In a team game, you'd be sacrificing extra armies, attacks and potential bonuses by doing this. So it's hard to imagine much advantage coming from it.

[Georgerx7di]

Well, once I get the official 'ok' from someone I will be setting up a few games to try it. You can post now if you want to challenge. I might make them private so people will no in advance that one person on my team will be deadbeating.

[AAFitz]

Definitely not against the rules... It may become against the rules if abused, but the issue has come up before, and you are taking a risk by doing so. Ive certainly lost to teams where one has deadbeated, but if I had to choose, Id be the team that didnt.

You try it once, and youll be fine anyways...youd only get a warning.... if you milk 50 games that way if you find a loophole, youll be in for some trouble

[AndyDufresne]

First off, lets not bypass the Q&A forum, because others might have similar questions, and we'd like to house them there. So when you've got a question, please post it accordingly.

Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new members.

If you are found intentionally deadbeating repeatedly, there unfortunately will be disciplinary action.


--Andy

[Georgerx7di]

First off, lets not bypass the Q&A forum, because others might have similar questions, and we'd like to house them there. So when you've got a question, please post it accordingly.

Unwritten Rules

Obviously any gross abuse of the game is forbidden. This includes but is not limited to: throwing games or deliberately benefiting from thrown games, intentional deadbeating, serial teammate killing, hijacking accounts, systematically "farming" new members.

If you are found intentionally deadbeating repeatedly, there unfortunately will be disciplinary action.


--Andy

Andy, my understanding is that the intention of this rule is for people not to intentionally loose games, or screw their partners. Could not deadbeating be allowed, if it were done with the intention of winning? Or at least to expose a flaw in dubs play on a certain map?

[AndyDufresne]

To be safe, I'd avoid intentionally deadbeating in any case. It not only may get you bad ratings, and tags, and community opinion, but further disciplinary actions as well. Safer just to play the game.


--Andy

[AAFitz]

Woops, andy, feel free to send me a pm the next time you see me guessing like that... Sorry for the bad info george.

[Georgerx7di]

To be safe, I'd avoid intentionally deadbeating in any case. It not only may get you bad ratings, and tags, and community opinion, but further disciplinary actions as well. Safer just to play the game.


--Andy

Wait, what do you mean "may get ... disciplinary actions as well". I thought you were the boss andy, if you say its ok, then im good. It would add a new dimension to the game. A new tactic. And if im wrong, then my opponents would get an easy win. Come on banana man, can't you add a line in the rules saying that you can deadbeat if you think it will help you win. some people deadbeat a turn with 5 cards in certain styles so they can cash at a higher rate.

Think about it, I can't see anything bad coming from it. Besides, i intended to make these games private and announce in callouts the intention that one partner would deadbeat as our tactic so that people would know what they were going to be playing against before they joined the games.

[ben79]

To be safe, I'd avoid intentionally deadbeating in any case. It not only may get you bad ratings, and tags, and community opinion, but further disciplinary actions as well. Safer just to play the game.


--Andy

Wait, what do you mean "may get ... disciplinary actions as well". I thought you were the boss andy, if you say its ok, then im good. It would add a new dimension to the game. A new tactic. And if im wrong, then my opponents would get an easy win. Come on banana man, can't you add a line in the rules saying that you can deadbeat if you think it will help you win. some people deadbeat a turn with 5 cards in certain styles so they can cash at a higher rate.

Think about it, I can't see anything bad coming from it. Besides, i intended to make these games private and announce in callouts the intention that one partner would deadbeat as our tactic so that people would know what they were going to be playing against before they joined the games.

waiting for the answer as well, i asked about the same question for deadbeating on the arm's race map ( helped me win the game , if not i would have lost ) ... and that tactic got me a foe

[AAFitz]

To be safe, I'd avoid intentionally deadbeating in any case. It not only may get you bad ratings, and tags, and community opinion, but further disciplinary actions as well. Safer just to play the game.


--Andy

Wait, what do you mean "may get ... disciplinary actions as well". I thought you were the boss andy, if you say its ok, then im good. It would add a new dimension to the game. A new tactic. And if im wrong, then my opponents would get an easy win. Come on banana man, can't you add a line in the rules saying that you can deadbeat if you think it will help you win. some people deadbeat a turn with 5 cards in certain styles so they can cash at a higher rate.

Think about it, I can't see anything bad coming from it. Besides, i intended to make these games private and announce in callouts the intention that one partner would deadbeat as our tactic so that people would know what they were going to be playing against before they joined the games.

Deadbeating=missing 3 turns in a row and getting bumped. Missing a turn= missing a turn. There is a difference. If no one complains, and you dont do it alot, you will obviously get away with it. If they complain, you may get a warning. He cant say anything else...If you habitually miss turns, you may get more punishment...to be honest, its self evident.

[Thezzaruz]

Think about it, I can't see anything bad coming from it. Besides, i intended to make these games private and announce in callouts the intention that one partner would deadbeat as our tactic so that people would know what they were going to be playing against before they joined the games.

The way you have said you want to do this is, IMO, justified but only for a short while. Anyone wanting to use this as their standard strategy however will just be adding 3 extra days time to all games and that isn't a good thing. You are welcom to pop over to the suggs & buggs forum and voice your support of the asymmetric team games and other similar ideas.