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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Master Fenrir on Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:06 pm

If a low ran joins a high rank's game, I can understand an F-bomb when the low rank does something stupid. If it's the other way around, the high rank should have been aware of the risk and keep his or her mouth shut.

Still, high ranks are high ranks for a reason. If you're getting yelled at, there's probably a good reason, regardless of how rude or offensive that player is being.
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Re: High Ranks #2

Postby clapper011 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:12 pm

~barnygumble~ wrote:Yes

no! merged!
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Re: High Ranks #2

Postby Woodruff on Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:35 pm

clapper011 wrote:
~barnygumble~ wrote:Yes

no! merged!


You missed one: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=101815
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Georgerx7di on Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:45 pm

~barnygumble~ wrote:What i hate is alll of the high ranks just bringing all of us average players down! It has allways been a problem when you make a little mistake you get f bombs at you. Its not good because it not only makes you fell bad as a player but as a person. So to all of you high ranks cut us guys some slack!


~barnygumble~


A couple of things. #1 the first few responses to this were funny as hell, thanks guys, had a good laugh. #2, I would like to apologize, I myself have done this. It is easy to really get into a game, and if its ruined you have little recourse but to post your feelings.

I'm not sure if I would be considered a high rank or not, and I can't speak for everyone, but I think I speak for at least some people when I say. We too play for fun, sometimes :lol: We just forget some times that it is just a game, and I'm sorry for that. Most high ranks are nice people, some of us can be abrasive at times [myself included] but its mostly meant in good fun. Try to remember that, its just a little trash talk, nobody hates and whatever, just giving our opinion.

If it makes you feel better though, the next time I criticize a noob, I will try to use civil language in doing so :lol:
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby demonfork on Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:52 pm

eat shit asshole noob
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Duality. on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:33 am

demonfork wrote:eat shit asshole noob

:lol:

~barnygumble~ wrote:Ok in my preveous post ( High Ranks!) I got replays all by high ranks and some were constructive critisissome and some where just cyber bulling! I don't want all of the high ranks being mad at me because i play this game for fun not competitively!

That damn critisissome, and bulling! How do you spell competitively correctly but those two wrong?

Woodruff wrote:"I'll just leave and let you rest stuck in your own mindset"...I wonder, does Duality find this statement in the least bit ironic?

I suppose it is if you don't take into account everything else that was said.
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby KraphtOne on Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:15 am

some people are just losers... either by birth or by choice...


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2009-07-21 10:57:28 - Peter_Pan: gl
2009-07-21 10:57:49 - ~barnygumble~: gl all
2009-07-21 10:58:32 - avelache: thnx and u2
2009-07-21 10:59:17 - ~barnygumble~: thank you hope i win that would be awsome
2009-07-21 11:00:09 - avelache: probably everyone feels that way :-P
2009-07-21 11:01:08 - ~barnygumble~: no all are like supper high ranks i would geet lik 300 points!
2009-07-21 11:01:31 - avelache: I think you would get like 125 points.
2009-07-21 11:01:45 - ~barnygumble~: no a lot more than that
2009-07-21 11:02:11 - ~barnygumble~: two majors and a captan and id get like 30 points off of ou
2009-07-21 11:03:03 - Peter_Pan: pink, if you want to win....
2009-07-21 11:03:11 - Peter_Pan: what you did now is losing
2009-07-21 11:03:45 - avelache: this was a weird move pinky
2009-07-21 11:03:58 - avelache: do you need some explanation?

2009-07-21 11:04:41 - Peter_Pan: please ave, give some explanation
2009-07-21 11:04:54 - Peter_Pan: so he will have better chanses next game
2009-07-21 11:07:50 - Peter_Pan: barny, question for you...
2009-07-21 11:07:57 - Peter_Pan: do you want to learn more about this game
2009-07-21 11:08:06 - Peter_Pan: or do you think I can't learn you anything

2009-07-21 11:08:13 - avelache: he's so quite, I think he (or she) already knows
2009-07-21 11:08:59 - Peter_Pan: most importan in an escalating game... take cards!!!!
2009-07-21 11:11:41 - ~barnygumble~: im a he
2009-07-21 11:11:55 - avelache: without killing big stacks
2009-07-21 11:12:31 - Peter_Pan: yes, because if you kill someone's stack
2009-07-21 11:12:38 - Peter_Pan: you both lose many many armies
2009-07-21 11:12:42 - Peter_Pan: and you both lose

2009-07-21 11:22:39 - KraphtOne: somebody got murdered... ( barney )
2009-07-21 11:22:52 - reckedracing: muhahahah
2009-07-21 11:22:54 - reckedracing: nom nom nom
2009-07-21 11:23:17 - reckedracing: not really worth it i guess

2009-07-21 11:23:26 - #1_stunna: no
2009-07-21 11:24:16 - #1_stunna: what ever floats your boat
2009-07-21 11:25:19 - reckedracing: listen then? lol
2009-07-21 11:25:25 - reckedracing: its not THAT bad

2009-07-21 11:25:29 - avelache: did that fucking idiot really suicide me? ( barney )
2009-07-21 11:25:31 - reckedracing: cover for lollipop
2009-07-21 11:25:44 - reckedracing: yes yellow
2009-07-21 11:25:48 - reckedracing: RIP pink, lol

2009-07-21 11:30:51 - avelache: I asked him why he did this
2009-07-21 11:30:58 - avelache: I dont think he will answer this
2009-07-21 11:31:02 - avelache: lets just all foe this guy
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Woodruff on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:32 pm

Duality. wrote:
Woodruff wrote:"I'll just leave and let you rest stuck in your own mindset"...I wonder, does Duality find this statement in the least bit ironic?

I suppose it is if you don't take into account everything else that was said.


That sure is a long way of saying "No".
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Duality. on Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:51 pm

Woodruff wrote:
Duality. wrote:
Woodruff wrote:"I'll just leave and let you rest stuck in your own mindset"...I wonder, does Duality find this statement in the least bit ironic?

I suppose it is if you don't take into account everything else that was said.


That sure is a long way of saying "No".

I felt that two letters just didn't have enough tenderness enclosed within it. ;)
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:34 pm

Duality. wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
Duality. wrote:
Woodruff wrote:"I'll just leave and let you rest stuck in your own mindset"...I wonder, does Duality find this statement in the least bit ironic?

I suppose it is if you don't take into account everything else that was said.


That sure is a long way of saying "No".

I felt that two letters just didn't have enough tenderness enclosed within it. ;)


I was just pointing out that there is a difference between attempting to educate a new player and cursing out a new player. Therefore, I did not see how your original statement was relevant to this particular new player's comment regarding foul language and abuse. In other words, foul language and abuse do not lead to learning (about CC anyway... you might find something out about yourself, like, "Wow, I didn't know that I liked to perform fellatio on midgets.")
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Beckytheblondie on Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:06 pm

High Rank is Relative. It is not absolute until you get to conqueror.
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Master Fenrir on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:16 pm

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Re: High Ranks!

Postby ben79 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:49 pm

one day i decided to play ass doodle to get my assassin medals, i was major had about 24..something points, almost colonel, since i ain't got clickies i lost about 1000+ points in 2 days ( yes i know i suck at freestyle ). Ended up being corporal first class, but was the same player, same technique etc... then i played a 4-5 players game against a major and he thought i was a noob. Started insulting me because he did not like the way i played. told him i was about to be colonel in few points before the ''catastrophe'', anyway i ended up wining the game as i planned it.
So i understand your point about high ranks, sometimes they're not patient in the teaching, but on the other hand it REALLY suck to lose a game because a player can't seem to learn the basics of that game !
I think people should just remember that when they started playing they were not the best, i remember palying King Herpes on my first games when i join the site and he sucked a lot like all of us did.

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Re: High Ranks!

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:59 pm

Here is an in-progress sample... Let's see what happens...

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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Woodruff on Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:02 pm

ben79 wrote:So i understand your point about high ranks, sometimes they're not patient in the teaching, but on the other hand it REALLY suck to lose a game because a player can't seem to learn the basics of that game !


Here's my feeling...if a noob can screw up your game, then your game isn't very good. Allow me to expand on this...if you're actually all that good, then you should be prepared to handle anything that comes up in a game. ANYTHING. Noobs do crazy things, I know! But IF YOU CAN ONLY DO WELL WHEN EVERYONE IN THE GAME PLAYS THE WAY YOU EXPECT THEM TO, then frankly...you suck at the game. You have no flexibility. You have no ability to plan well. You have no real strategic sense. It's like the damn Redcoats during the Revolutionary War, being confused because us colonists didn't fight right...but we kicked their asses because of it.

Think about it...and you know I'm right.
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby ben79 on Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:09 pm

Woodruff wrote:
ben79 wrote:So i understand your point about high ranks, sometimes they're not patient in the teaching, but on the other hand it REALLY suck to lose a game because a player can't seem to learn the basics of that game !


Here's my feeling...if a noob can screw up your game, then your game isn't very good. Allow me to expand on this...if you're actually all that good, then you should be prepared to handle anything that comes up in a game. ANYTHING. Noobs do crazy things, I know! But IF YOU CAN ONLY DO WELL WHEN EVERYONE IN THE GAME PLAYS THE WAY YOU EXPECT THEM TO, then frankly...you suck at the game. You have no flexibility. You have no ability to plan well. You have no real strategic sense. It's like the damn Redcoats during the Revolutionary War, being confused because us colonists didn't fight right...but we kicked their asses because of it.

Think about it...and you know I'm right.


i think about it and i know you're right ;) didin't we play a game recently ? you're name tells me something ?
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Woodruff on Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:37 pm

ben79 wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
ben79 wrote:So i understand your point about high ranks, sometimes they're not patient in the teaching, but on the other hand it REALLY suck to lose a game because a player can't seem to learn the basics of that game !


Here's my feeling...if a noob can screw up your game, then your game isn't very good. Allow me to expand on this...if you're actually all that good, then you should be prepared to handle anything that comes up in a game. ANYTHING. Noobs do crazy things, I know! But IF YOU CAN ONLY DO WELL WHEN EVERYONE IN THE GAME PLAYS THE WAY YOU EXPECT THEM TO, then frankly...you suck at the game. You have no flexibility. You have no ability to plan well. You have no real strategic sense. It's like the damn Redcoats during the Revolutionary War, being confused because us colonists didn't fight right...but we kicked their asses because of it.

Think about it...and you know I'm right.


i think about it and i know you're right ;) didin't we play a game recently ? you're name tells me something ?


We did, indeed...you whipped my noobiness in an 8-man Peloponnesian. But I did noob you out on a 1-vs-1 Arms Race. <smile>
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby deathcomesrippin on Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:51 am

I have been on this site for a few years, and have found a few things out about the higher ranks (which I have never achieved)

First off, I classify "High Ranks" as Major and above. I feel a bit more worried when facing these folks.

Alot of the higher ranked folk on here have maps and/or settings that they are extremely good at. For one reason or another, they just click with that map. When you play them on these maps, you have to expect to take heat for making mistakes. It is just what they do, they do it to each other as well. All you have to realize is that on these maps, you must be very careful when making plays, both because they will capitalize to your detriment, and because, to them, it could be a play that ruins the game. There is no time I can remember being called out or cursed out by a "High Rank", and I try to play them whenever I can both for the extra points when I win and to learn from people who are obviously better than I, mostly because I tend to keep quiet and emulate plays that look smart. It doesn't always work, in fact almost NEVER works, but you will get ripped less for doing this.

If, as a low rank, you join a game with higher ranked players, keep a low profile. In a multiplayer game, I find caution to be the best thing against those flames. Just play it slow, even if you lose you're losing a few points and (hopefully) picking up some pointers from their plays. Alot of the times, they will take it out on the dice, or a singular assault where the dice went in your favor. Apart from a few jackasses, most higher ranked players realize that if the move was sound and the dice went with you, then it's all good. They'll probably gripe a bit, but no more than a line or two.

For the most part, paying attention to who you should and shouldn't attack is the biggest thing. Nothing aggravates a veteran player more than seeing some noob waste away a game by not at least trying to take down the dominant player. Also, suiciding is a horrible thing to do, at any time. Don't try to defend yourself to the ranked players, it won't work, and justification from a low rank never sits well. If it was a good play, they will realize it and maybe (if you're lucky) apologize for it. Just go with the flow. If getting harrassed bothers you that much, maybe find a new game to play. There are plenty of games (for free) that lack the ruthlessness you need to survive and flourish here.
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby Fruitcake on Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:42 pm

deathcomesrippin wrote:I have been on this site for a few years, and have found a few things out about the higher ranks (which I have never achieved)

First off, I classify "High Ranks" as Major and above. I feel a bit more worried when facing these folks.

Alot of the higher ranked folk on here have maps and/or settings that they are extremely good at. For one reason or another, they just click with that map. When you play them on these maps, you have to expect to take heat for making mistakes. It is just what they do, they do it to each other as well. All you have to realize is that on these maps, you must be very careful when making plays, both because they will capitalize to your detriment, and because, to them, it could be a play that ruins the game. There is no time I can remember being called out or cursed out by a "High Rank", and I try to play them whenever I can both for the extra points when I win and to learn from people who are obviously better than I, mostly because I tend to keep quiet and emulate plays that look smart. It doesn't always work, in fact almost NEVER works, but you will get ripped less for doing this.

If, as a low rank, you join a game with higher ranked players, keep a low profile. In a multiplayer game, I find caution to be the best thing against those flames. Just play it slow, even if you lose you're losing a few points and (hopefully) picking up some pointers from their plays. Alot of the times, they will take it out on the dice, or a singular assault where the dice went in your favor. Apart from a few jackasses, most higher ranked players realize that if the move was sound and the dice went with you, then it's all good. They'll probably gripe a bit, but no more than a line or two.

For the most part, paying attention to who you should and shouldn't attack is the biggest thing. Nothing aggravates a veteran player more than seeing some noob waste away a game by not at least trying to take down the dominant player. Also, suiciding is a horrible thing to do, at any time. Don't try to defend yourself to the ranked players, it won't work, and justification from a low rank never sits well. If it was a good play, they will realize it and maybe (if you're lucky) apologize for it. Just go with the flow. If getting harrassed bothers you that much, maybe find a new game to play. There are plenty of games (for free) that lack the ruthlessness you need to survive and flourish here.


A good post in all things except that Majors are, in fact, the cc petite bourgeoisie. After all, one can attain that rank with a score of around just 40% of a conquerers score.
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Re: High Ranks!

Postby deathcomesrippin on Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:16 pm

I still hold them in high regard. :)
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