nuclear spoils question

[Forza AZ]

and to add, if you nuke someone out into oblivion, you will NOT get their cards. They will stay neutral and his points(along with cards) will go to the victor of the game, much like deadbeat points.

That seems to be not the case, see this example (Game 6956257):

2010-05-27 19:20:03 - Barendil received 3 troops for 1 regions
2010-05-27 19:20:06 - Barendil cashed in a group of Labrador Sea, St. Lazarus Archipelago, and Equatorial Current nuking each region
2010-05-27 19:20:06 - Barendil eliminated Obeythylord from the game
2010-05-27 19:20:12 - Barendil cashed in a group of Melanesia, Sea of Okhotsk, and Java Sea nuking each region
2010-05-27 19:20:19 - Barendil deployed 3 troops on ?
2010-05-27 19:20:28 - Barendil assaulted ? from ? and conquered it from Chuckler3
2010-05-27 19:21:05 - Barendil ended the turn and got spoils

By cashing his set Barendil nuked Obeythylord out of the game. He must have gotten his cards or else he could never have cashed another set directly again.
So eliminating somebody by nuking him is just the same as eliminating somebody in a normal way. You will get his cards (no matter if that player is an opponent or your teammember).

Only question remains what will happen in a teamgame if you nuke yourself out (same holds for games with respawning neutrals; what will happen when a player only has respawning territories and starts his turn). Will that players cards go to the first teammate that is left. I guess they will as it is similar to deadbeating, in which case the cards do go to the teammate.

[SirSebstar]

good point,
quote from lack

Each nuke is applied in order and the nukage stops if the game is over part way through applying the group.

ill see if i can dig up more on the who gets spoils thing

[SirSebstar]

this is wierd.
Game 6956257 standard freestyle where a nuke apparently killed a person, and the person with the nukes is registered as the killer,
2010-05-27 18:20:03 - Barendil received 3 troops for 1 regions
2010-05-27 18:20:06 - Barendil cashed in a group of Labrador Sea, St. Lazarus Archipelago, and Equatorial Current nuking each region
2010-05-27 18:20:06 - Barendil eliminated Obeythylord from the game
2010-05-27 18:20:12 - Barendil cashed in a group of Melanesia, Sea of Okhotsk, and Java Sea nuking each region

Game 6246450 terminator sequential where a nuke killed a person and it is registered as neutral killer.
2010-01-21 09:00:33 - neutral player eliminated j35t3r.us from the game
2010-01-21 08:59:02 - j35t3r.us received 3 troops for 1 regions
2010-01-21 09:00:33 - j35t3r.us cashed in a group of Edmonton, Mumbai, and Port Moresby nuking each region
2010-01-21 09:00:33 - neutral player eliminated j35t3r.us from the game

AH it seems red/j35t3r.us nuked himself!!!

Game 6295834 suggests that you do get the cards (and thus likely the points) if you kill someone with nukes in terminator.

this seems to be it

EDITED TO UPDATE ACCURACY OF MY REPLY
If a player in a terminator game gets nuked dead BY HIMSELF, his points will go to the victor of the game, much like deadbeat points.

points cannot go to a neutral player.

nuclear spoils, like any other spoils are played in the fashion that you got them. So the 'oldest' card gets played first.

In an assassin game If you take out 2 players with one set, the victor will be the hunter of the first player eliminated, thus the first card played, thus the oldest card you have recieved.

and to add, if you nuke someone out into oblivion, you WILL get their cards. His points(along with cards) will go to the player with the nuke cards.

[SirSebstar]

Only question remains what will happen in a teamgame if you nuke yourself out (same holds for games with respawning neutrals; what will happen when a player only has respawning territories and starts his turn). Will that players cards go to the first teammate that is left. I guess they will as it is similar to deadbeating, in which case the cards do go to the teammate.

Thankk you Forza AZ for bringing more light to this subject.
And eh, try to nuke a teammate and bring us back its report.. we'd like to know