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Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby KernowWarrior on Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:55 am

Someone has decided to do all the thinking for us

Someone has decided that we thickies who pay to play this game, are too stupid to count, so they decided to do it for us.

Taking all the skill and fun out of the game.

Remove the new stats this will make the game more enjoyable for everyone

I will not be renewing my premium as this game of part skill and part chance has now been turned into well a farce.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby CreepersWiener on Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:02 am

KernowWarrior wrote:Someone has decided to do all the thinking for us

Someone has decided that we thickies who pay to play this game, are too stupid to count, so they decided to do it for us.

Taking all the skill and fun out of the game.

Remove the new stats this will make the game more enjoyable for everyone

I will not be renewing my premium as this game of part skill and part chance has now been turned into well a farce.

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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby CreepersWiener on Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:09 am

I won't be quitting my premium (as it was a gift), but I am very dissatisfied to join my games yesterday and see that there are now game stats telling everyone the specific number crunches for all the players. We can't figure that out on our own? Please remove the stat bars or, at the very least, make the stat bars optional (very unlikely, as there are so many options already).

I predict that this feature will be majorly unwanted, as is, it is entirely unneeded.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby jammyjames on Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:24 am

CreepersWiener wrote:I won't be quitting my premium (as it was a gift), but I am very dissatisfied to join my games yesterday and see that there are now game stats telling everyone the specific number crunches for all the players. We can't figure that out on our own? Please remove the stat bars or, at the very least, make the stat bars optional (very unlikely, as there are so many options already).

I predict that this feature will be majorly unwanted, as is, it is entirely unneeded.



makes the game better. quit moaning... if you really want it changed ask to have it as an option in games setttings instead of just moaning... bitch
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby AAFitz on Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:18 am

It changes nothing. It simply does the math for you. Youre using a computer to recreate a type of board game, because it does all the work for you. You can use a calculator to help with the math, or even your computer calculator. There are addons that do this already, that much of the site employs, but much of the site does not know about, so this levels the playing field.

It gives no information beyond what is available, so the only thing this does, is save some time.

This is a world domination game. Technology is an important part of world domination. It only tallies information, the strategy is all about what you do with that information, and how you act on it.

Anyone who doesnt like this, is really saying that they dont like that other players have a better chance now. It cant possibly be because you yourself dont want the info, because you can always ignore it if you really want to go through the log and count the numbers for yourself.

This eliminates a great inequity that has existed on CC for many years.

The next one will certainly have some complaints from certain "clicks" too Ill bet.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby ufjohnny16 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:34 am

I don't like these new features at all, it gives players info on the game when they should be looking it up on the game logs and analyzing it themselves. Some players dont do that, which makes the players that DO count regions and bonuses the better players. This given info now just takes some of the skill and strategy part out of the game and just makes it more dependent on dice, which sucks.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby Timminz on Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:37 am

If being able to count troops, and territories was the only "skill", or "thinking" that you feel gave you an advantage over other players, well, I guess I can understand why you would be upset. For the rest of us (who consider the parts beyond counting to be the skills required) this is just a new layout to get used to.

ps- this has been available for years, as BOB. You can find it in the plugins & add-ons forum of General Discussion.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby Caymanmew on Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:40 am

i love the new feacher how can ya hate it ....it help ya be lazy
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby Serbia on Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:31 am

caymanmew wrote:i love the new feacher how can ya hate it ....it help ya be lazy


You need no assistance to be lazy. (The word is "feature")
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby jefjef on Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:49 am

Will you all complain when we get new maps to play on too? This feature is actually a good idea. Who likes to count?
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby KernowWarrior on Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:51 am

Its very difficult to ignore when you HAVE TO scroll across to see spoils. No thought went into this change at all. If it was already available 'BOB' as an option it should have stayed that way an option!

As for different maps, we have an option not to play a particular map, we were not given the option to count or not.

Totally ruined CC!
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby 72o on Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:57 am

Because counting was the only part of CC that was any fun...

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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby frankiebee on Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:03 am

KernowWarrior wrote:Taking all the skill and fun out of the game.


So.. It takes skill to count the number of territories your opponent have ?

This upgrade just makes things easier, only complete idiots who can't do the very basics of math (11+3=14) will benefit from this upgrade.. :lol:
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby AAFitz on Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:21 am

KernowWarrior wrote:Totally ruined CC!


Only for you. Counting the number of territories and armies is not the key to winning.

Its what you do with that info that matters. If your entire strategy was based on you counting how many armies there were, assuming your opponent didnt, you were mistaken. Bob has counted armies for years, and most experienced players have it downloaded.

And if you cant avoid looking at the right side of the board, while focusing on the map, well... dont blame the upgrade. Its very easy to focus on the map, and it actually requires effort to analyze the info on the other side. I still ignore it on any map where it doesn't matter.

If for some reason you think its more fun to count up the armies, while the number is on your right...than carry on.

But this is a great update for CC, and if you think youll find a site that doesnt already post this info...well...

Good luck on your new conquests.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby -Maximus- on Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:28 am

Remember the time when BOB gave us -1 territs, so when you thought you were going to elim someone, they actually had 1 or 2 more territs. I am ready for that to happen for a day or so with this new option. :lol:
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:37 am

do you complain when you get laid also ?
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby Timminz on Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:38 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:do you complain when you get laid also ?

Ask again, in 10 years.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:04 pm

Finally, some common sense! By reading the announcement thread, you'd think this had ruined the game.

I also love the fact that the majority of the complaining that this "takes all the skill out of the game" is done by people with 3 or fewer bars next to their name, while most of the majors don't have a problem with it. :lol:
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby AAFitz on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:08 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:Finally, some common sense! By reading the announcement thread, you'd think this had ruined the game.

I also love the fact that the majority of the complaining that this "takes all the skill out of the game" is done by people with 3 or fewer bars next to their name, while most of the majors don't have a problem with it. :lol:


It was hard for me not to mention that...but score is very often a choice more than a pure indication of skill, but without a doubt, the higher you go in the ranks, the more likely the person had BOB. Though many still prefer the old school method...well, some anyways.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:13 pm

AAFitz wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:Finally, some common sense! By reading the announcement thread, you'd think this had ruined the game.

I also love the fact that the majority of the complaining that this "takes all the skill out of the game" is done by people with 3 or fewer bars next to their name, while most of the majors don't have a problem with it. :lol:


It was hard for me not to mention that...but score is very often a choice more than a pure indication of skill, but without a doubt, the higher you go in the ranks, the more likely the person had BOB. Though many still prefer the old school method...well, some anyways.


The old school method has its perks. I mean, when you wake up in the morning and have 10 games to play, who doesn't have the time to sit and add up the totals for each one? Used to be you needed skill for that. Now anyone with a computer can add quickly and easily. Noobs will be running all over the skilled players in no time.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby Tisha on Mon Nov 30, 2009 12:27 pm

Serbia wrote:
caymanmew wrote:i love the new feacher how can ya hate it ....it help ya be lazy


You need no assistance to be lazy. (The word is "feature")


I was wondering what a feacher was.. :oops:
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby Master Fenrir on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:02 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:Noobs will be running all over the skilled players in no time.


:roll: Only if they weren't skilled in the first place. Having access to that information means nothing if you don't know what to do with it.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby drunkmonkey on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:12 pm

Master Fenrir wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:Noobs will be running all over the skilled players in no time.


:roll: Only if they weren't skilled in the first place. Having access to that information means nothing if you don't know what to do with it.


Sorry...apparently my sarcasm wasn't dripping as thickly as I thought it was.
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby danryan on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:14 pm

Tisha wrote:
Serbia wrote:
caymanmew wrote:i love the new feacher how can ya hate it ....it help ya be lazy


You need no assistance to be lazy. (The word is "feature")


I was wondering what a feacher was.. :oops:


I misread it too. I thought I saw an l where the a was and saw a very naughty word. :oops:
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Re: Someone has taken all the fun out of CC

Postby Master Fenrir on Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:31 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:
Master Fenrir wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:Noobs will be running all over the skilled players in no time.


:roll: Only if they weren't skilled in the first place. Having access to that information means nothing if you don't know what to do with it.


Sorry...apparently my sarcasm wasn't dripping as thickly as I thought it was.


:lol: My bad then. I can see it now.
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