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TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC (in points/rank)

Postby Ghost9626 on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:40 pm

These are the top ten highest score cc members on counquer club:
1. King_Herpes
2. rabbiton
3. Thai Robert
4. demonfork
5. mhennigan
6. prismsaber
7. chephren
8. Gustaf Wasa
9. Velvecarrots
10. Kiron
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby ronsizzle on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:42 pm

dude, just click the scoreboard.

thanks.
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Ghost9626 on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:45 pm

ronc8649 wrote:dude, just click the scoreboard.

thanks.

i know that..thats how i get my info but doesn't hurt to help a little :D
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby the.killing.44 on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:46 pm

Ghost9626 wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:dude, just click the scoreboard.

thanks.

i know that..thats how i get my info but doesn't hurt to help a little :D

What? I don't get this…
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby TheForgivenOne on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:47 pm

If you are too lazy to click scoreboard... as of October 02, 2009 at 7:46 pm Mountain Time

1 King_Herpes 5035
2 rabbiton 4705
3 Thai Robert 4587
4 demonfork 4414
5 mhennigan 4405
6 prismsaber 4233
7 chephren 4125
8 Gustaf Wasa 4075
9 Velvecarrots 4015
10 Kiron 3991
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Ghost9626 on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:47 pm

i'm not done yet 8-[
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Ghost9626 on Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:58 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:If you are too lazy to click scoreboard... as of October 02, 2009 at 7:46 pm Mountain Time

1 King_Herpes
2 rabbiton
3 Thai Robert
4 demonfork
5 mhennigan
6 prismsaber
7 chephren
8 Gustaf Wasa
9 Velvecarrots
10 Kiron

I'm not lazy...........i work all day!!!!
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby porkenbeans on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:41 pm

These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.
If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers. ;)
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby ronsizzle on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:51 pm

porkenbeans wrote:These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.
If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers. ;)



thanks porkenbeans.

again, you are wrong.
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby demonfork on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:54 pm

porkenbeans wrote:These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.
If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers. ;)



I'll give you 1 guess as to who has the highest RR on that list. Thanks for admitting that I'm the best player :D
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby prismsaber on Fri Oct 02, 2009 11:55 pm

porkenbeans wrote:These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.
If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers. ;)


First of all we don't need to start that map rank debate again. Your theory of map rank = skill has already been thoroughly refuted in other threads.

Secondly, you play 1v1 on weird maps. Therefore, you wouldn't have a clue about who the best players are because you don't play them (the only way to judge that is worth a poop).
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby targetman377 on Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:28 am

this is a rather funny thread

ok i cave

i think i am the best player on cc based on my secret formal too!!!!
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:37 am

prismsaber wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.
If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers. ;)


First of all we don't need to start that map rank debate again. Your theory of map rank = skill has already been thoroughly refuted in other threads.

Secondly, you play 1v1 on weird maps. Therefore, you wouldn't have a clue about who the best players are because you don't play them (the only way to judge that is worth a poop).
I don't play them because they only play noobs. If you think that earning points from beating unskilled players makes you a good player, that is your opinion. You have to play and beat the best to be the best in any sport that i can think of. And you are right about the Map Rank debate. I do not wish to get into that debate again, but this guy is asking a question, and I am telling him what I think. You are free to tell him what you think. But I am not going to debate the issue with you or anyone else. I am sure that if he or anybody else wants to study this issue further, they can just go to the forum archives and find all the different views on this debate :D
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby prismsaber on Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:49 am

Some would probably play a private game or two with you but you'd have to go outside of 1v1 sequential.
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:57 am

prismsaber wrote:Some would probably play a private game or two with you but you'd have to go outside of 1v1 sequential.
I play everything but freestyle. I only play multi-player games if I know the players. There too many cheats and multies, to do otherwise. ;)
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Mr Changsha on Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:09 am

porkenbeans wrote:These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.
If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers. ;)


I suspect you mean the no.2 Rabbiton. Currently playing with him, and I have to say, never have I played with/against someone who has made me feel so amateurish. Absolutely top class player.

Map Rank only goes so far..it is a great guide to the relative strength of an opponent on a particular map or style, but the equaliitarian tag is the irrelevence I have always said it is. I myself am beginning to drop below 0.8, and I rarely play anyone below a captain, in fact I always try and play the best opposition I can. Yet on current form I'll be in the noob farmer category..yet it means nothing, other than that I am struggling to find players of my level who can play my styles effectively, or have the interest in playing my styles.

However, you are right to the extent that the Top 10 may not be the best ten players...but so what? This is hardly a revelation! You have to be playing for points to reach the top 10 and a lot of the truly best have dropped out of it due to a lack on interest in being over say 3,000 points. But I would venture that most of the truly great CC players have made the top 10 at one time or another. I would certainly say that at some point I myself would like to try and get there and consider it at least a part of what makes a great CC player.

But go back to your 1vs1 games...which are the real standard by which all great CC players should be judged...!
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:21 am

porkenbeans wrote:
prismsaber wrote:Some would probably play a private game or two with you but you'd have to go outside of 1v1 sequential.
I play everything but freestyle. I only play multi-player games if I know the players. There too many cheats and multies, to do otherwise. ;)



Grab some friends and lets play a team game. :) It will be me, Prism, and 2 more vs you and 3 people of your choosing in a seq quads game. :) Lets put those skills to the test. :) Surely you are not a noob, and thus it would not be farming would it?

Or a seq Triples if you like :)
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:47 am

Bruceswar wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
prismsaber wrote:Some would probably play a private game or two with you but you'd have to go outside of 1v1 sequential.
I play everything but freestyle. I only play multi-player games if I know the players. There too many cheats and multies, to do otherwise. ;)



Grab some friends and lets play a team game. :) It will be me, Prism, and 2 more vs you and 3 people of your choosing in a seq quads game. :) Lets put those skills to the test. :) Surely you are not a noob, and thus it would not be farming would it?

Or a seq Triples if you like :)

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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:22 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
prismsaber wrote:Some would probably play a private game or two with you but you'd have to go outside of 1v1 sequential.
I play everything but freestyle. I only play multi-player games if I know the players. There too many cheats and multies, to do otherwise. ;)



Grab some friends and lets play a team game. :) It will be me, Prism, and 2 more vs you and 3 people of your choosing in a seq quads game. :) Lets put those skills to the test. :) Surely you are not a noob, and thus it would not be farming would it?

Or a seq Triples if you like :)

im in 8-)



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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:54 am

Mr Changsha wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:These are NOT the top 10 players. They are only the top 10 in points. Most of them have earned their points by farming newbies fresh off the boat. They have no idea of freestyle or clicky maps etc...
It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Hell I see one guy that won over 200 straight games doing this.
If you are really interested to find out who the best players are, install Map Rank, and check out their average rank opponents. This will give you a better understanding of who the best players are. I see a couple of players among this list that are indeed very good players, but the rest are just noob farmers. ;)


I suspect you mean the no.2 Rabbiton. Currently playing with him, and I have to say, never have I played with/against someone who has made me feel so amateurish. Absolutely top class player.

Map Rank only goes so far..it is a great guide to the relative strength of an opponent on a particular map or style, but the equaliitarian tag is the irrelevence I have always said it is. I myself am beginning to drop below 0.8, and I rarely play anyone below a captain, in fact I always try and play the best opposition I can. Yet on current form I'll be in the noob farmer category..yet it means nothing, other than that I am struggling to find players of my level who can play my styles effectively, or have the interest in playing my styles.

However, you are right to the extent that the Top 10 may not be the best ten players...but so what? This is hardly a revelation! You have to be playing for points to reach the top 10 and a lot of the truly best have dropped out of it due to a lack on interest in being over say 3,000 points. But I would venture that most of the truly great CC players have made the top 10 at one time or another. I would certainly say that at some point I myself would like to try and get there and consider it at least a part of what makes a great CC player.

But go back to your 1vs1 games...which are the real standard by which all great CC players should be judged...!
I know what you mean by it being hard to keep your RR up as you move up in rank. Especially when you start public games, as I do. My RR has dropped to .90 as a result. Still an EQ. but I can certainly see myself dropping off of EQ status sooner or later. I have always said that the cut off points should be re-evaluated. The stats are indeed the true story. They are after all only a compilation of various facts. It is those facts and how to interpret them that Map Rank tries to address. Chip has done a great service to players by attempting to do this. However, as has been pointed out before, As a player gets toward the top of the leaderboard, it is increasingly harder to maintain an EQ status.
Are there truly good top players on the leaderboard, that are below EQ ? ... Of course there are. I think that the formula should be upgraded to take this fact into account. A separate sliding scale for each rank should be worked out. So for example a sergeants cut off for EQ should be much higher than a Generals. A Generals cut off should be somewhere around .50 or .60.
We all know that some have made it all the way to the top slot by playing only noobs. This is a feat in itself I guess, and I believe that it takes a good player to do this, but most good players would not want to play so many games with so little challenge.
Alas we are all still left with the question, WHO IS THE BEST RISK PLAYER ?
I wished that we all had this answer. Is it King Herp ? It may be. I will admit that he IS the best "CC" player, but is he the best RISK player ? If you ask him he will say, there is no such thing as the best RISK player. I disagree. I think that CC will eventually evolve, and a better scoring system will emerge. One that better ranks a players skill at the game of RISK. Not the game within a game of beating the system by playing noobs.
I wished that we all would come together to actually calmly discuss just how this could be accomplished. Maybe enough time has passed that this subject could be looked at once more. If not, that is OK with me. But I predict that it will eventually be a time at CC when it will seriously be discussed. However, I will NOT be holding my breath. ;)
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Qwert on Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:30 am

Best player in CC

Hard question.
I dont know who is that,but probably close to be best player,its player who play with everybody(From Cook to FIeldmarshall),and dont realy care who have what rank.And ofcourse to use all gameplay settings, or to accept setting from opponents.

Player who play only some specific map and with specific gameplay settings,and who strictly play only with high ranked players,or to play only with inexperience players,can not be best player in CC.
This is mine opservation,maybe im wrong but this is what i think.
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC

Postby Ghost9626 on Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:20 am

Can somone just make a lock on here cause these replies are..........OUCH!!!
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC (in points/rank)

Postby captainwalrus on Sat Oct 03, 2009 1:22 pm

I think the premise of this thread is really really funny.
What a ridiculous idea.
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC (in points/rank)

Postby Ghost9626 on Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:22 pm

captainwalrus wrote:I think the premise of this thread is really really funny.
What a ridiculous idea.

GhostRabbit sayed:It's not a bad ideA :geek:
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Re: TOP TEN PLAYERS ON CC (in points/rank)

Postby The Neon Peon on Sat Oct 03, 2009 2:27 pm

Congratulations, you can copy and past the scoreboard. Do you want a medal for it?
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