MrMoody wrote:Woodruff wrote:Specifically though, you should be looking for the thread that is initiated by a post describing the method of "rank segregating" based on the percentage of the game initiator's score. I don't remember the specifics, but let's pretend it was 50%. Based on that, if a player with a rank of 3,000 started the game, anyone from 1500 through 4500 could join whereas if a player of 900 started the game, then only players from 450 through 1350 could join. And if a conqueror with a score of 5069 started the game, then only players with a rank of 2535 would be able to join (still leaving 250+ players to join their games).
This method would eliminate the entire possibility of farming WHILE AT THE SAME TIME ensuring that newbies/cooks/cadets have reasonably competitive games that will further their enjoyment of the site, causing them to be more likely to invest in it. But that suggestion has been ignored, as so many great ones are around this place. Meanwhile, we get nuclear-freaking-spoils and reorganizations of the screens.
This does NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO ELIMINATING FARMING. Set the range any way you like. Those who still have new recruits in there range can and will farm to reach the next level. The only members it will stop from farming are higher ranks.
Allow me to extrapolate for a moment. Let's say that using this setup, someone is farming, which will then raise their score (that being the whole point of farming, after all). LONG before they can reach their desired point in rank (presuming they're not "farming to become a captain" or something silly like that), they will no longer be able to farm. Therefore, the entire impetus and motivation for farming no longer exists.
MrMoody wrote:The idea it will "ensure that newbies/cooks/cadets have reasonably competitive games that will further their enjoyment of the site". Backwards logic at best. A less skilled player is more likely to make a bad move in a game. Lower ranks should be happy they get bad moves made against them more often? Just how would getting suicided into or noobed more often further enjoyment.
An interesting form of logic on your part. Allow me to extrapolate once again. It is your contention that a newbie/cook/cadet will have to suffer through endless games of bad moves because they are playing against newbies/cooks/cadets. And yet, if this person is actually a better player than a newbie/cook/cadet, they will SWIFTLY use these bad moves against their opponents, quickly putting themselves into a position that they would no longer be stuck playing said newbies/cooks/cadets. Thus, the newbies/cooks/cadets making the bad moves remain at their lower level while the not-really-newbies/cooks/cadets rise above them, giving themselves the opportunity to play against more skilled opponents in quite a short amount of time. I would suggest then that you are not following through your own logic to...it's logical conclusion.
MrMoody wrote:I looked in suggs&buggs and read this suggestion. First of all it calls for this restriction to be an option. You could adjust the limits or set it for no limits. Any farmer will just set this for a limit just under 1000 points. Still setting up his games and wait for new recruits to fill them. What is suggested will have no effect on farming.
So because it is suggested as an option means that it must be taken as an option? You seem to be stuck in linear thinking...bring out your flexibility of thought and mind, MrMoody! Set yourself free!
MrMoody wrote:This is only rank segregation. Something "cc" (admin) has said they don't want. We can go into the same old "but they already do segregate" argument. Public games should be just that, public.
This is NOT "only rank segregation" and quite honestly only someone who is unable to think critically would see it that way. However, if that remains the site's policy, then the site should remove ALL sanctions against farming, because they ARE LITERALLY PROMOTING FARMING by leaving things as they are. Again, the site is attempting to have things both ways, and by doing so are only pissing off the paying customers at large (not an intelligent business strategy).
...I prefer a man who will burn the flag and then wrap himself in the Constitution to a man who will burn the Constitution and then wrap himself in the flag.