NON FARMERS GUILD - Top 101

[The Neon Peon]

Indeed you are correct pb, his map rank is very good at 0.976

Now, take out the fact that I farm on doodle. Instantly becomes 1.011

I really need to stop playing those.

[porkenbeans]

This is the reason that i like chps M.R. so much. It really lets you break things down. You can quickly and easily find out just about anything you might want to know about a players history.

[porkenbeans]

Indeed you are correct pb, his map rank is very good at 0.976

Now, take out the fact that I farm on doodle. Instantly becomes 1.011

I really need to stop playing those.

I can accept the term farming when we refer to specialists. But we need to change the term for Noob Farmers to something like "Bullies" or something. I am sick and tired of being lumped in with them. LOL.

[hecter]

I have an RR of 1.034... What does that mean?

[The Neon Peon]

I have an RR of 1.034... What does that mean?

It means that the average rank of your opponent is 1.034 times larger than yours.

[porkenbeans]

I have an RR of 1.034... What does that mean?

It means that you consistently play against players at or above your own rank. It means that you love a challenging game, and do NOT go in for, noob raping.

[Jeff Hardy]

I would like to know how in world I am supposed to achieve a .80, (what ever that irrelevant number means) when I have been a colonel for over a year and there are only 90 or so people on all of cc with higher points than me (many of whom only play freestyle or other game types that I will not touch.) The only way I could raise my score is to play those people exclusively which is simply unrealistic.

in other words, map rank doesnt work properly for what porkenbeans is trying to accomplish

Well actually if he played anyone on the front page or even on the second page he would increase his map rank. With a present rank of 0.692, and a score of 2907, basically anyone over 2000 points (give or take the loose change) would increase his map rank.

but he would still have to keep playing the same players

[porkenbeans]

I would like to know how in world I am supposed to achieve a .80, (what ever that irrelevant number means) when I have been a colonel for over a year and there are only 90 or so people on all of cc with higher points than me (many of whom only play freestyle or other game types that I will not touch.) The only way I could raise my score is to play those people exclusively which is simply unrealistic.

in other words, map rank doesnt work properly for what porkenbeans is trying to accomplish

Well actually if he played anyone on the front page or even on the second page he would increase his map rank. With a present rank of 0.692, and a score of 2907, basically anyone over 2000 points (give or take the loose change) would increase his map rank.

but he would still have to keep playing the same players

Yeah, 500 players is so limiting. lol.

[kenbeuken]

I would like to know how in world I am supposed to achieve a .80, (what ever that irrelevant number means) when I have been a colonel for over a year and there are only 90 or so people on all of cc with higher points than me (many of whom only play freestyle or other game types that I will not touch.) The only way I could raise my score is to play those people exclusively which is simply unrealistic.

in other words, map rank doesnt work properly for what porkenbeans is trying to accomplish

Well actually if he played anyone on the front page or even on the second page he would increase his map rank. With a present rank of 0.692, and a score of 2907, basically anyone over 2000 points (give or take the loose change) would increase his map rank.

but he would still have to keep playing the same players

Yeah, 500 players is so limiting. lol.

So using that theory, I have to only play the 40 or so people that are above me and play standard games and do it for however long it takes in order to be a part of your little clique?

[chipv]

I guess I am considered a farmer?

No you are not a farmer. Your RR is 0.692, which classifies you as point hoarder. You would need to raise that score to 0.800 to become an E.Q. Chip is working to revise the cutoff points, and I have allready stated that the next list will include all with 0.600 or higher. ...Stay tuned.

Where do you get your information from? I'm a little curious especially as I have no current plans to revise the cutoff points whatsoever nevermind actually working on it and I am failing to see a single post of mine that even hinted that I would.

Maybe you're going about things the wrong way?

[Bruceswar]

So using that theory, I have to only play the 40 or so people that are above me and play standard games and do it for however long it takes in order to be a part of your little clique?

If you think you could do that and hold you rank ... go for it..

[kenbeuken]

So using that theory, I have to only play the 40 or so people that are above me and play standard games and do it for however long it takes in order to be a part of your little clique?

If you think you could do that and hold you rank ... go for it..

lol, Not saying that Im going to do it. I really could care less. I just think that its funny that according to some arbitrary label that one person picked, that I am some how a farmer and not included in this list. Lately I have been playing a lot of tournaments where I have no control over my opponents. Most of them have been Majors or above though. However, if I play a major, that makes my RR lower every time. In order for me to get included in this list, I would have to drop in rank significantly in order for there to be enough people in the pool that can join my games that are the same or higher rank than me.

The only other option is to never start my own games, because lower ranks may join, or make sure I wait and am the last person to join a game where all the other players are 2900 points or higher. Those somply do not exist except in private games and clan wars.

The stat makes no sense to any one except mid level ranks. The extremes are getting screwed by the stat. THis list is bunk.

[Bruceswar]

lol, Not saying that Im going to do it. I really could care less. I just think that its funny that according to some arbitrary label that one person picked, that I am some how a farmer and not included in this list. Lately I have been playing a lot of tournaments where I have no control over my opponents. Most of them have been Majors or above though. However, if I play a major, that makes my RR lower every time. In order for me to get included in this list, I would have to drop in rank significantly in order for there to be enough people in the pool that can join my games that are the same or higher rank than me.

The only other option is to never start my own games, because lower ranks may join, or make sure I wait and am the last person to join a game where all the other players are 2900 points or higher. Those somply do not exist except in private games and clan wars.

The stat makes no sense to any one except mid level ranks. The extremes are getting screwed by the stat. THis list is bunk.

He is not saying anybody who is EQ is a farmer. He is merely pointing out the top scores who have EQ status. Nothing against anybody else... He just said no farmers were on the list, not that if you were not on the list you were a farmer

[kenbeuken]

IT says NON FARMERS GUILD! So explain to me what he is trying to say about people who are not on the list?

Anyone feel free to explain to me how it would be possible for me play tournaments, play clanwars, and still keep this stat above .8. Today I joined three games. All my opponents are Majors and Colonels, yet if you do the math, none of those games would qualify me as EQ on the average.

I think there is a lot more to be said about being willing to take on all players, than working to improve an arbitrary stat in order to be included. If you people want to call me a Farmer, so be it. But I have had between 2500 and 3000 points for over a year, and have never once joined a game with newbs in order get easy points. If they join my games, explain to me how that is my fault?

[kenbeuken]

I must REALLY be bored today!

GO HUSKERS

[Bruceswar]

IT says NON FARMERS GUILD! So explain to me what he is trying to say about people who are not on the list?

Anyone feel free to explain to me how it would be possible for me play tournaments, play clanwars, and still keep this stat above .8. Today I joined three games. All my opponents are Majors and Colonels, yet if you do the math, none of those games would qualify me as EQ on the average.

I think there is a lot more to be said about being willing to take on all players, than working to improve an arbitrary stat in order to be included. If you people want to call me a Farmer, so be it. But I have had between 2500 and 3000 points for over a year, and have never once joined a game with newbs in order get easy points. If they join my games, explain to me how that is my fault?

If you read down version 2 of this list will include people with .6 or higher... He just used the .8 number as a breaking point...

[Aradhus]

lol, Not saying that Im going to do it. I really could care less. I just think that its funny that according to some arbitrary label that one person picked, that I am some how a farmer and not included in this list. Lately I have been playing a lot of tournaments where I have no control over my opponents. Most of them have been Majors or above though. However, if I play a major, that makes my RR lower every time. In order for me to get included in this list, I would have to drop in rank significantly in order for there to be enough people in the pool that can join my games that are the same or higher rank than me.

The only other option is to never start my own games, because lower ranks may join, or make sure I wait and am the last person to join a game where all the other players are 2900 points or higher. Those somply do not exist except in private games and clan wars.

The stat makes no sense to any one except mid level ranks. The extremes are getting screwed by the stat. THis list is bunk.

He is not saying anybody who is EQ is a farmer. He is merely pointing out the top scores who have EQ status. Nothing against anybody else... He just said no farmers were on the list, not that if you were not on the list you were a farmer

Bull, read through the equilitarian topic porkchop made.

Not to mention that the whole premise is flawed(obviously, as has been pointed out many times, by several people, in different ways). I know of several players on this 'most esteemed eq top players' list that farm, or have done so in the past to get to the top.

[porkenbeans]

I guess I am considered a farmer?

No you are not a farmer. Your RR is 0.692, which classifies you as point hoarder. You would need to raise that score to 0.800 to become an E.Q. Chip is working to revise the cutoff points, and I have allready stated that the next list will include all with 0.600 or higher. ...Stay tuned.

Where do you get your information from? I'm a little curious especially as I have no current plans to revise the cutoff points whatsoever nevermind actually working on it and I am failing to see a single post of mine that even hinted that I would.

Maybe you're going about things the wrong way?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73613&start=30#p1772697 Maybe you could clarify for me.

[porkenbeans]

lol, Not saying that Im going to do it. I really could care less. I just think that its funny that according to some arbitrary label that one person picked, that I am some how a farmer and not included in this list. Lately I have been playing a lot of tournaments where I have no control over my opponents. Most of them have been Majors or above though. However, if I play a major, that makes my RR lower every time. In order for me to get included in this list, I would have to drop in rank significantly in order for there to be enough people in the pool that can join my games that are the same or higher rank than me.

The only other option is to never start my own games, because lower ranks may join, or make sure I wait and am the last person to join a game where all the other players are 2900 points or higher. Those somply do not exist except in private games and clan wars.

The stat makes no sense to any one except mid level ranks. The extremes are getting screwed by the stat. THis list is bunk.

He is not saying anybody who is EQ is a farmer. He is merely pointing out the top scores who have EQ status. Nothing against anybody else... He just said no farmers were on the list, not that if you were not on the list you were a farmer

Thank you Bruce, Saved me some typing.

[porkenbeans]

lol, Not saying that Im going to do it. I really could care less. I just think that its funny that according to some arbitrary label that one person picked, that I am some how a farmer and not included in this list. Lately I have been playing a lot of tournaments where I have no control over my opponents. Most of them have been Majors or above though. However, if I play a major, that makes my RR lower every time. In order for me to get included in this list, I would have to drop in rank significantly in order for there to be enough people in the pool that can join my games that are the same or higher rank than me.

The only other option is to never start my own games, because lower ranks may join, or make sure I wait and am the last person to join a game where all the other players are 2900 points or higher. Those somply do not exist except in private games and clan wars.

The stat makes no sense to any one except mid level ranks. The extremes are getting screwed by the stat. THis list is bunk.

He is not saying anybody who is EQ is a farmer. He is merely pointing out the top scores who have EQ status. Nothing against anybody else... He just said no farmers were on the list, not that if you were not on the list you were a farmer

Bull, read through the equilitarian topic porkchop made.

Not to mention that the whole premise is flawed(obviously, as has been pointed out many times, by several people, in different ways). I know of several players on this 'most esteemed eq top players' list that farm, or have done so in the past to get to the top.

You are full of shit. And you obviously only comprehend what you want to, when you read. Dumb-ass.

[Aradhus]

I guess I am considered a farmer?

No you are not a farmer. Your RR is 0.692, which classifies you as point hoarder. You would need to raise that score to 0.800 to become an E.Q. Chip is working to revise the cutoff points, and I have allready stated that the next list will include all with 0.600 or higher. ...Stay tuned.

Where do you get your information from? I'm a little curious especially as I have no current plans to revise the cutoff points whatsoever nevermind actually working on it and I am failing to see a single post of mine that even hinted that I would.

Maybe you're going about things the wrong way?

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=73613&start=30#p1772697 Maybe you could clarify for me.

Chip didn't post in the page you linked. He asked you to show him where he said he was revising the cutoff points. Not link to more of your posts where you exhibit little understanding and expect Chip to alter his creation to your liking.

[FabledIntegral]

lol, Not saying that Im going to do it. I really could care less. I just think that its funny that according to some arbitrary label that one person picked, that I am some how a farmer and not included in this list. Lately I have been playing a lot of tournaments where I have no control over my opponents. Most of them have been Majors or above though. However, if I play a major, that makes my RR lower every time. In order for me to get included in this list, I would have to drop in rank significantly in order for there to be enough people in the pool that can join my games that are the same or higher rank than me.

The only other option is to never start my own games, because lower ranks may join, or make sure I wait and am the last person to join a game where all the other players are 2900 points or higher. Those somply do not exist except in private games and clan wars.

The stat makes no sense to any one except mid level ranks. The extremes are getting screwed by the stat. THis list is bunk.

He is not saying anybody who is EQ is a farmer. He is merely pointing out the top scores who have EQ status. Nothing against anybody else... He just said no farmers were on the list, not that if you were not on the list you were a farmer

You're not getting more retarded are you Bruce? The entire premise is shit - it's obvious what he IS going for, but he's interchanging the status under map rank "noob farmer" and "noob farmer" as it's actually known in the community, constantly.

"He just said no farmers were on the list." If you want to read his exact quote, you would know it would be something like "This list is for intelligent people only, no one on this list has an IQ below 75" while his actual list is excluding all people with an IQ of less than 125, for example. Only a retard would set something or say something like that - and that's my point - that's why this kid is retarded. "I just want to make a list where no noob farmers are on it, if you want to make this list, you shouldn't noob farm," etc.

While what he holds is true, if that's his actual meaning for it - as shown with the IQ example - his premise is nothing more than provoking (to which he got a response), and idiotically formed.

[porkenbeans]

lol, Not saying that Im going to do it. I really could care less. I just think that its funny that according to some arbitrary label that one person picked, that I am some how a farmer and not included in this list. Lately I have been playing a lot of tournaments where I have no control over my opponents. Most of them have been Majors or above though. However, if I play a major, that makes my RR lower every time. In order for me to get included in this list, I would have to drop in rank significantly in order for there to be enough people in the pool that can join my games that are the same or higher rank than me.

The only other option is to never start my own games, because lower ranks may join, or make sure I wait and am the last person to join a game where all the other players are 2900 points or higher. Those somply do not exist except in private games and clan wars.

The stat makes no sense to any one except mid level ranks. The extremes are getting screwed by the stat. THis list is bunk.

He is not saying anybody who is EQ is a farmer. He is merely pointing out the top scores who have EQ status. Nothing against anybody else... He just said no farmers were on the list, not that if you were not on the list you were a farmer

You're not getting more retarded are you Bruce? The entire premise is shit - it's obvious what he IS going for, but he's interchanging the status under map rank "noob farmer" and "noob farmer" as it's actually known in the community, constantly.

"He just said no farmers were on the list." If you want to read his exact quote, you would know it would be something like "This list is for intelligent people only, no one on this list has an IQ below 75" while his actual list is excluding all people with an IQ of less than 125, for example. Only a retard would set something or say something like that - and that's my point - that's why this kid is retarded. "I just want to make a list where no noob farmers are on it, if you want to make this list, you shouldn't noob farm," etc.

While what he holds is true, if that's his actual meaning for it - as shown with the IQ example - his premise is nothing more than provoking (to which he got a response), and idiotically formed.

Fab you are an ass. Where do get this crap from. How the hell can you read my mind, when you cant even read English. I am sick and tired of you constantly miss-quoting me. And now you even want to tell people whats in my mind, and what I "REALLY" mean.
FYI, I am NOT a kid. I have been playing RISK longer than you have been alive. Unless your 40 years old. I played this game in the sixties, back before the plastic armies replaced the little wooden cubes.
This game has been out since 1953. And is know world wide. There are literally millions of people that have enjoyed this game through the decades. When people come here, it is that game that they are looking to play. Your Noob rape game can not come close to that following. And to tell you the truth, It is just NOT cool.
And neither are you.

[The Neon Peon]

Your Noob rape game can not come close to that following. And to tell you the truth, It is just NOT cool.
And neither are you.

Now that is incorrect and unnecessary. I took a look through his games and could not find one with a noob now, and could not find one a month ago either. He does not noob farm, and false accusations do no good.

Secondly, when someone (in general, not referring to that particular post) says something about your logic or the idea. You should answer that first. So what if the person flames you? So what if it was asked before? Explain it and move on. You constantly have stuff pointed out in your threads that you never take a moment to answer.

[porkenbeans]

Your Noob rape game can not come close to that following. And to tell you the truth, It is just NOT cool.
And neither are you.

Now that is incorrect and unnecessary. I took a look through his games and could not find one with a noob now, and could not find one a month ago either. He does not noob farm, and false accusations do no good.

Secondly, when someone (in general, not referring to that particular post) says something about your logic or the idea. You should answer that first. So what if the person flames you? So what if it was asked before? Explain it and move on. You constantly have stuff pointed out in your threads that you never take a moment to answer.

Please tell me what questions you are referring to Noen. He did not ask me any question, only miss-quotes and some kind of mind reading act.