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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:00 pm

I found why t-o-m was forum banned:

nonsensical bullshit wrote:Hello t-o-m, Your account has been issued a Forum Ban, which prevents posting in the forum and accessing private messages.
Comment from Moderator (Twill): T-o-m You've had more warnings than anyone should have had. You've nickle and dime'd your way into a forum ban one little problem at a time. Over the last few days your posts have been nothing but spam, flames, baiting or aggression and while you have contributed a fair bit over your time here, you have also been an overall negative influence on the site. You are as of now permanently banned form the forums, and all associated features (yes, this included PMs). We gave you plenty of chances and told you exactly where you could improve, but you chose to ignore them. There is no buy back from this, you had your chance.
Sorry mate. Regards,The Conquer Club


Forgot how ridiculous this was, they didn't even give him a specific post or thing he had done. Seems like this place hasn't improved much...
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby owenshooter on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:02 pm

timmy.. the funniest thing is how people can buy back after violating the FIRST RULE OF CC which affects more users than the less than 2 percent that visit the forums... however, when you get a forum ban, there is no buy back... give tom his maps and let him go somewhere else. this ban garbage is getting out of control.-0
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:14 pm

owenshooter wrote:timmy.. the funniest thing is how people can buy back after violating the FIRST RULE OF CC which affects more users than the less than 2 percent that visit the forums... however, when you get a forum ban, there is no buy back... give tom his maps and let him go somewhere else. this ban garbage is getting out of control.-0

I know its this whole system is just made to bring in more money for the administrators. What I find is the worst part about arbitrarily banning t-o-m is that he contributed so much to this site.

He bought premium and played the game, contributed to each of the forums, made a map and started several others, and he also made 4 tournaments. It's not like he was just a troll.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:22 pm

I wasnt going to purchase premium next month but due to the recent bannings im going too. :o I think im going to take up map making too.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby Darwins_Bane on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:31 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I wasnt going to purchase premium next month but due to the recent bannings im going too. :o I think im going to take up map making too.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:32 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I wasnt going to purchase premium next month but due to the recent bannings im going too.

Aren't you a clever one?

Darwins_Bane wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I wasnt going to purchase premium next month but due to the recent bannings im going too. :o I think im going to take up map making too.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You even have a little fan. I didn't think anyone actually had intelligence low enough to laugh at one of your crappy jokes.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby cena-rules on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:32 pm

COME ON LACK! WHERES YOUR BOLLOCKS! YOUVE RESPONDED TO A POSITIVE THREAD.

FUCKING COWARDS THE FUCKING LOT OF YOU ADMINS!

IM STARTING TO MISS TWILL. AT LEAST HE HAD SOME FUCKING BOLLOCKS!

AND JR, IVE SEEN YOU POSTING IN THIS THREAD. YOUR JUST PISSED CAUSE T-O-M PUT YOU ON HIS FOE LIST SO f*ck OFF
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby EagleofGreenErth on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:33 pm

Haha t-o-m? I see no huge loss there... Haha
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:36 pm

cena-rules wrote:COME ON LACK! WHERES YOUR BOLLOCKS! YOUVE RESPONDED TO A POSITIVE THREAD.

FUCKING COWARDS THE FUCKING LOT OF YOU ADMINS!

IM STARTING TO MISS TWILL. AT LEAST HE HAD SOME FUCKING BOLLOCKS!

AND JR, IVE SEEN YOU POSTING IN THIS THREAD. YOUR JUST PISSED CAUSE T-O-M PUT YOU ON HIS FOE LIST SO f*ck OFF

lol.....a foe list :roll:
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby cena-rules on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:37 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
cena-rules wrote:COME ON LACK! WHERES YOUR BOLLOCKS! YOUVE RESPONDED TO A POSITIVE THREAD.

FUCKING COWARDS THE FUCKING LOT OF YOU ADMINS!

IM STARTING TO MISS TWILL. AT LEAST HE HAD SOME FUCKING BOLLOCKS!

AND JR, IVE SEEN YOU POSTING IN THIS THREAD. YOUR JUST PISSED CAUSE T-O-M PUT YOU ON HIS FOE LIST SO f*ck OFF

lol.....a foe list :roll:

you whinged about it when we were beating you. Now really, go kill yourself
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby tdans on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:11 pm

T-o-m is gone??? nooooooooooooo
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby lanyards on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:25 pm

Give 'em his map if you don't want him around.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby tdans on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:34 pm

t-o-m was cool and u banned him?? jerks :(
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby owenshooter on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:39 pm

Kotaro wrote:To ban someone from the forums is one thing. To site-ban them, and continue to use their creation to enhance your own site, is pathetic.

lanyards wrote:Give 'em his map if you don't want him around.

yeah, i kind of agree... if he is that bad for the site, then you should remove all remnants of him from the site. hence, give him his maps, and let him go be part of another "community" that will welcome him.-0
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby timmytuttut88 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:58 pm

What I find the worst part of this is that t-o-m hasn't gotten in trouble for 10 months, and then out of nowhere they perma-ban him. Seems ridiculous.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby owenshooter on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:04 pm

i just found this interesting post in off topics... seems relevant to this thread:

InkL0sed wrote:
t-o-m wrote:Righto.

I'll just start by saying that if it was any other admin in the backroom, other than KingAchilles, this thread and whole situation will not have happened.


KingAchilles and I have an open dislike for each other and he clearly dislikes me more than I dislike him. It seems that working in the backroom and not talking with anyone has eroded away his common decency and his basic social skills.


At 00:39:00AM today, I was sent this email notifying me of my ban:
Hello t-o-m,

Your account has been issued a Website Ban. You can no longer play games, rate players, use the forum or private messages. If you had any Premium Membership it has been cancelled without refund.

Term of ban: permanent

Issued by: king achilles

Comment:

You were just removed from every clan you were in and you immediately got back to join them again. Take this indefinite vacation due to your persistence. Open an eTicket if you want to discuss this further.

Regards,
The Conquer Club


As you can see, the labeled reason(s) are for:
  • Joining usergroups

On its own this information seems a little retarded. Let me give it some background:
When I was forum banned, I realised that I was still in my usergroups and that I had access to view/post in Spamalot, so I did. Then that stopped for some reason.
Fairly recently - about 2-4 months ago, I managed to get access to another clan; Imperial Britain. This clan is made up from all of the buddies who I play games with so I would obviously want to talk to them - so I posted a little until that also stopped.
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Recently, while waiting for my speed games to fill up, I applied to a large chunk of clans on ** out of impatience for my games to fill, etc. I thought nothing of it. Who would? A few days later, I applied for some more clans, just out of curiosity to see who would accept me. (Let's face it. Most clans on ** now are noob and inactive ones)


So, this is as far as my knowledge goes as to my ban. Today, 23rd July, I logged onto ** and found no games in the My Games section and no access to live chat. After visiting other websites (inc. here) I saw that I had been banned - my first thought... lolwut??
I read the email above, read some forums, and send an e-ticket.


Their response to my ban and the reasons for it:
  • I had applied to clans with the intention of getting around my ban
  • I had disregarded my warning
  • Therefore, I deserve a permanent ban from ** and my premium revoked

As we all know, when you break a non-existent rule to do with the forums and ignore one warning which you're unable to receive, you're fully entitled to a website ban - especially if you have no previous infringements.

My counter arguments:
  • **, at least when I still had forums, made it clear that the forums, live chat, and the gaming side of things had NOTHING to do with each other, and never would. So why did I receive a website ban for a forum-side 'infringement'?
  • I clearly received no warning.


Why I know KA is bias against me:
  • Our history, see above ^
  • He sent me a warning via PM. He MUST have known that getting around a FORUM ban might imply that I actually had a FORUM BAN. Is that so hard to connect? And therefore I cannot receive PMs, yet he sent me a warning via there anyway. You might think, oh, it's just a little misunderstanding on his part... well, I have sent many e-tickets in my tmie and he has fully acknowledged the fact that I do not have the ability to read PMs.
  • No one goes from one warning to permanent ban. No one. Not even on the most corrupt site that exists.
  • Look at the language used in the email:
Take this indefinite vacation due to your persistence.

This is a little niggle at me. He couldn't resist getting one last jab - no professional would do this. And we've already covered his lack of social skills.


I'm sorry. I really wouldn't normally kick up much of a fuss and if I actually did something wrong then I'd just f*ck off back under the bridge... but no. Conquer Club, you've overstepped the mark on this one. This time, you've got nowhere to hide. The evidence is laid out in front of you and I am willing to accept an apology and move on, but this is unacceptable.

Tom


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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby king achilles on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:08 pm

Website ban for t-o-m has been removed.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby owenshooter on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:12 pm

king achilles wrote:Website ban for t-o-m has been removed.

good man, king... nice move...-0
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby 4myGod on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:17 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I wasnt going to purchase premium next month but due to the recent bannings im going too. :o I think im going to take up map making too.

Man JR, this is the second time you have said something only to piss off the users in a thread. This is spam, intentionally trolling and off-topic.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby Strife on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:18 pm

owenshooter wrote:
king achilles wrote:Website ban for t-o-m has been removed.

good man, king... nice move...-0

Does he get his premium back? Does he get any points he might have lost back? Does he get an apology? :?
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby King_Herpes on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:26 pm

Strife wrote: Does he get his premium back? Does he get any points he might have lost back? Does he get an apology? :?


...Does he get a free Conquer Club T-shirt for the misunderstanding? Does he get to punch you in the face and turn your teeth into graham crackers if you don't apologize? If not, can we? Does he collect 200$ when he passes Go?
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby F1fth on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:28 pm

I applaud the administration for making the right decision on this matter.
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby King_Herpes on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:33 pm

F1fth wrote:I applaud the administration for making the right decision on this matter.


Do they pay you to kiss ass or do you just enjoy the taste?
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:51 pm

oh well. I guess I wont be making maps any time soon now ;)
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Re: T-o-m is banned from the entire website

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:15 pm

F1fth wrote:I applaud the administration for making the right decision on this matter.


I applaud the generally excellent job all admins and mods do in all cases where they execute tempered and moderate jurisprudence. KA did not need to lift any ban at all and he chose to after a careful and thoughtful evaluation of circumstances.
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