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Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Sep 15, 2008 7:40 pm

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Optimus Prime wrote:I haven't been around long, but after the few games I've played and after perusing the site, I say a Hall of Fame would be a great idea. Here are some of the factors I would say to include:

1. Longevity (set a certain time that the player has to have been active for)

2. Score (setting a benchmark score might be tough because of the up and down nature of the scoreboard, but perhaps there could be a benchmark for average score that could be taken into account)

3. Rank (This would have to be considered, especially for the players that don't contribute anything in the forums, map-making, or in running the site)

4. Membership Status (You could argue that a true CCer would be willing to support the site by having a premium membership for a certain period of time, but on the other side, if someone reaches the rank of General through consistent gameplay with a free account, you have to consider that as a sizable feat)

5. Stats (This would be a great reason to begin keeping stats for singles wins, doubles wins, triples wins, assassin wins, second through sixth place finishes, etc. Personally, I would think that someone with say 2 years on the site, but with 500 singles wins, would have the upper hand over someone with say 100 singles wins and 600 doubles wins.)

6. Other Contributions (Someone with not quite as high of a score but multiple contributions as far as map designs that are popular should have that taken into account. Also, someone who plays well, has good stats, but perhaps contributes through helping the Forum community be a fun place to be by starting fun topics or helping others out should have that count for them as well.)

7. Feedback (This one is much more subjective, but I think that if there is a way to find validity in negative feedback, it should be taken into account but not be a major determining factor. Granted, any players currently on the site that would likely be considered probably won't have any problems with this)

Anyways, those are the base criteria I would use if I were to be setting something like that up. I'm sure it can be tweaked a bit and the details would have to be worked out, but I think it would be nice to see. Having a Hall of Fame would give some of the players something to shoot for.

As for whether or not the player should be retired in order to gain entrance, I don't think that should be a requirement for this reason: If they have retired from game-play, what good is it going to do them? They probably won't be on the site much, so what satisfaction will they get from being in the Hall of Fame?

I think there would need to be a committee that would decide on who gets in and who doesn't, but I don't think it should be just the Mods or Lack, it should be Lack, a couple of mods, but not all, and a couple members from each rank (General, Colonel, Major and Captain). I also think the voting members should only be on the committee for a set amount of time, excluding Lack given that he is the ultimate creator and if he ever steps down he can name his successor. The criteria for determining the best folks for the committee would be a little more difficult.

The last thing I would say is that if a player gains entrance to the Hall of Fame (provided retirement is not a requirement) I think that there should be a new icon designed for them. If they have made it to the Hall of Fame, then I don't think many players are going to complain if they don't see a General icon next to the player's name. Plus, it would give that player his due recognition if you ask me.

Well, that was really long. I'll stop now.


Great suggestions optimus prime, also some records that are held could be included, and perhaps 6 to 8 candidates a year but only 1 or 2 get in per year maybe.



This is what OP suggested way back, and he had some great suggestions, but not sure anything ever was followed thru.
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:10 pm

im on the committee


so other committee members will have to nominate me :roll:
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Blitzaholic on Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:18 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:im on the committee


so other committee members will have to nominate me :roll:



i thought you were the president
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby hulmey on Tue Sep 16, 2008 3:47 am

Scott-Land wrote:Hulmey has a good of a chance ever to play in my game as he does winning the lottery. No I lied, at least he has a chance to win the lottery.

Im going to cry all night...its not fair i cant be cheated on by scot and his buddies. boo hooo
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:23 am

Scott-Land wrote:Hulmey has a good of a chance ever to play in my game as he does winning the lottery. No I lied, at least he has a chance to win the lottery.
I dont have a chance either. you wont give me the password to my challenge and you drop 8 player games when I join. and If I sneak in, you and your buddies team vs me.
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Scott-Land on Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:08 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Hulmey has a good of a chance ever to play in my game as he does winning the lottery. No I lied, at least he has a chance to win the lottery.
I dont have a chance either. you wont give me the password to my challenge and you drop 8 player games when I join. and If I sneak in, you and your buddies team vs me.


Okay okay...you think I cheat when I was [cleared] not even [noted]. A ruling I'm quite sure you and all the rest of the jealous Scotty haters disagree with- I get it. Too bad so sad ; now time for the serious stuff kids. Put away your toys...pllay time is over, let's stay on topic. ;)

I like the idea that you're guarding the gates of entry. Not too many things we see eye to eye on- well we don't see eye to eye on anything but at least you're tough with the cheats. I can accept all your flaws for that respectable quality. Although, you're still not completely unbiased. Suppose we can't have it all now can we?

I nominate JR for Security Guard !
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby KoE_Sirius on Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:16 pm

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KoE_Sirius wrote:I think lack already did the hall of fame thing .He called it something else tho .It took into account posts ,rank,time served with CC and games played etc .I think I was 17th . :)



copy and paste the link in here m8 if you will KoE Sirius


Thanks M8

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I had a qucik look at my prevois posts..couldnt find it..I'll prob have a longer look around at the weekend unless anyone else can find it . :)
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Blitzaholic on Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:22 pm

KoE_Sirius wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:I think lack already did the hall of fame thing .He called it something else tho .It took into account posts ,rank,time served with CC and games played etc .I think I was 17th . :)



copy and paste the link in here m8 if you will KoE Sirius


Thanks M8

:mrgreen:

I had a qucik look at my prevois posts..couldnt find it..I'll prob have a longer look around at the weekend unless anyone else can find it . :)



ok, thx, cause i dont think anything was done with it, because i would of been notified, i thought of the idea and discussed well over a year ago, but maybe someone else posted after me in another thread that i was unaware of.
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:26 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:I think lack already did the hall of fame thing .He called it something else tho .It took into account posts ,rank,time served with CC and games played etc .I think I was 17th . :)



copy and paste the link in here m8 if you will KoE Sirius


Thanks M8

:mrgreen:
I dont recall this
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Snorri1234 on Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:14 pm

hulmey wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:Hulmey has a good of a chance ever to play in my game as he does winning the lottery. No I lied, at least he has a chance to win the lottery.

Im going to cry all night...its not fair i cant be cheated on by scot and his buddies. boo hooo


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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Oct 03, 2008 3:29 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:I think lack already did the hall of fame thing .He called it something else tho .It took into account posts ,rank,time served with CC and games played etc .I think I was 17th . :)



copy and paste the link in here m8 if you will KoE Sirius


Thanks M8

:mrgreen:
I dont recall this


I am quite sure it didnt
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Fri Oct 03, 2008 5:27 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
KoE_Sirius wrote:I think lack already did the hall of fame thing .He called it something else tho .It took into account posts ,rank,time served with CC and games played etc .I think I was 17th . :)



copy and paste the link in here m8 if you will KoE Sirius


Thanks M8

:mrgreen:
I dont recall this


I am quite sure it didnt
Its not Lacks cup of tea to post such information.
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Re: Re:

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:45 pm

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Optimus Prime wrote:I haven't been around long, but after the few games I've played and after perusing the site, I say a Hall of Fame would be a great idea. Here are some of the factors I would say to include:

1. Longevity (set a certain time that the player has to have been active for)

2. Score (setting a benchmark score might be tough because of the up and down nature of the scoreboard, but perhaps there could be a benchmark for average score that could be taken into account)

3. Rank (This would have to be considered, especially for the players that don't contribute anything in the forums, map-making, or in running the site)

4. Membership Status (You could argue that a true CCer would be willing to support the site by having a premium membership for a certain period of time, but on the other side, if someone reaches the rank of General through consistent gameplay with a free account, you have to consider that as a sizable feat)

5. Stats (This would be a great reason to begin keeping stats for singles wins, doubles wins, triples wins, assassin wins, second through sixth place finishes, etc. Personally, I would think that someone with say 2 years on the site, but with 500 singles wins, would have the upper hand over someone with say 100 singles wins and 600 doubles wins.)

6. Other Contributions (Someone with not quite as high of a score but multiple contributions as far as map designs that are popular should have that taken into account. Also, someone who plays well, has good stats, but perhaps contributes through helping the Forum community be a fun place to be by starting fun topics or helping others out should have that count for them as well.)

7. Feedback (This one is much more subjective, but I think that if there is a way to find validity in negative feedback, it should be taken into account but not be a major determining factor. Granted, any players currently on the site that would likely be considered probably won't have any problems with this)

Anyways, those are the base criteria I would use if I were to be setting something like that up. I'm sure it can be tweaked a bit and the details would have to be worked out, but I think it would be nice to see. Having a Hall of Fame would give some of the players something to shoot for.

As for whether or not the player should be retired in order to gain entrance, I don't think that should be a requirement for this reason: If they have retired from game-play, what good is it going to do them? They probably won't be on the site much, so what satisfaction will they get from being in the Hall of Fame?

I think there would need to be a committee that would decide on who gets in and who doesn't, but I don't think it should be just the Mods or Lack, it should be Lack, a couple of mods, but not all, and a couple members from each rank (General, Colonel, Major and Captain). I also think the voting members should only be on the committee for a set amount of time, excluding Lack given that he is the ultimate creator and if he ever steps down he can name his successor. The criteria for determining the best folks for the committee would be a little more difficult.

The last thing I would say is that if a player gains entrance to the Hall of Fame (provided retirement is not a requirement) I think that there should be a new icon designed for them. If they have made it to the Hall of Fame, then I don't think many players are going to complain if they don't see a General icon next to the player's name. Plus, it would give that player his due recognition if you ask me.

Well, that was really long. I'll stop now.


Great suggestions optimus prime, also some records that are held could be included, and perhaps 6 to 8 candidates a year but only 1 or 2 get in per year maybe.



any other suggestions or this sound good?
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Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:47 pm

Incandenza wrote:wacicha and blitz are good noms.... jota and marvaddin would be good too...



thx Incandenza


do you have any other recommendations of what a player could strive for to be perhaps considered as a possible nomination or candidate? doesn't mean they would get in, but a voting panel would be nice with impartial parties.
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:48 pm

player cant be on my ignore list
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Re:

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:03 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:Thanks, Blitzaholic. This sort of thing interests me for some reason. Trying to stack people up to see who is worthy I suppose. I like the idea of 6-8 candidates at the end of each year with one or two being inducted.



you are right on the money, I was thinking same thing, thinking maybe 5 to 10 with only 1, 2 or 3 making it per year.
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Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:06 pm

RiskTycoon wrote:I like this idea, it gives players something more to strive for, gives players more roll models to look up to and inspires others to follow in their footsteps creating a better CC community. Regardless of what it is that gets said person or persons into the hall of fame for that year, it will let others know that if you contribute to the community above and beyond the normal call of duty that it wont go unnoticed. As far as the details go for what the criteria should be, there is a lot to be considered. What about the people who write our codes for greasemonkey, map makers, forum contributers, great players of top rank and score, how do we include such a vast array of players? I'll leave that up to you guys! I think this is a good idea if the details can be worked out, that's my 2 cents




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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:17 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:If CC ever decided to have a Hall of Fame, what do players think the criteria should be?

I was thinking sports, stats, longevity as being two of them? Also took the suggestions of CC players ideas into consideration, a lot of this comes from Optimus Prime who had solid suggestions, so i weaved them into a list of now 11 criteria, and will remain open for the 12th idea.



Any others have ideas or thoughts? What would the criteria look like if this was ever to occur?

I say a Hall of Fame would be a great idea. Here are some of the factors I would say to include:

1. Longevity (set a certain time that the player has to have been active for) minimum 2 years

2. Score (setting a benchmark score might be tough because of the up and down nature of the scoreboard, but perhaps there could be a benchmark for average score that could be taken into account) had to have hit 3500 score or higher before

3. 1st 5's and Top 5's (individuals obtaining multiple lists)

4. Rank (This would have to be considered, especially for the players that don't contribute anything in the forums, map-making, or in running the site)

5. Membership Status (You could argue that a true CCer would be willing to support the site by having a premium membership for a certain period of time, but on the other side, if someone reaches the rank of General through consistent game play with a free account, you have to consider that as a sizable feat)

6. Stats (This would be a great reason to begin keeping stats for singles wins, doubles wins, triples wins, quad wins, assassin wins, total wins, et cetera.

7. Other Contributions (Someone with not quite as high of a score but multiple contributions as far as map designs that are popular should have that taken into account. Also, someone who plays well, has good stats, but perhaps contributes through helping the Forum community be a fun place to be by starting fun topics or helping others out should have that count for them as well.)

8. Feedback (This one is much more subjective, but I think that if there is a way to find validity in negative feedback, it should be taken into account but not be a major determining factor. Granted, any players currently on the site that would likely be considered probably won't have any problems with this)

9. Medals, obtaining over 20 medals while keeping a high score, not many can say they have done this over longer period of time.

10. Map Makers, Tournament Creators, site workers like coaches in sports could possible enter in.

11. CC players who are involved in tournaments and have won at least one.


Having a Hall of Fame would give some of the players something to shoot for.

I don't think that retirement should be a requirement for this reason: If they have retired from game-play, what good is it going to do them? They probably won't be on the site much, so what satisfaction will they get from being in the Hall of Fame?

I think there would need to be a committee that would decide on who gets in and who doesn't, it should be Lack, a couple of mods, but not all, and a couple members from each rank (General, Colonel, Major and Captain). I also think the voting members should only be on the committee for a set amount of time, excluding Lack given that he is the ultimate creator and if he ever steps down he can name his successor.

I think that there should be a new icon designed for them who make the CC Hall of Fame. If they have made it to the Hall of Fame, it would give that player his due recognition if you ask me.

Perhaps only 5 to 10 candidates recognized per year, but only 1, 2 or 3 could make it in, others left over would wait next year.




this has now been updated and open for more suggestions or comments if you are interested.
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Re: Re:

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:27 pm

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Optimus Prime wrote:Thanks, Blitzaholic. This sort of thing interests me for some reason. Trying to stack people up to see who is worthy I suppose. I like the idea of 6-8 candidates at the end of each year with one or two being inducted.



you are right on the money, I was thinking same thing, thinking maybe 5 to 10 with only 1, 2 or 3 making it per year.


so 5 years from now there will be only 5. Why bother with the effort? It will just turn into a popularity vote and not an achievement award...kinda like baseballs all star game. the best players dont play the game.
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Re: Re:

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Oct 04, 2008 4:31 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:Thanks, Blitzaholic. This sort of thing interests me for some reason. Trying to stack people up to see who is worthy I suppose. I like the idea of 6-8 candidates at the end of each year with one or two being inducted.



you are right on the money, I was thinking same thing, thinking maybe 5 to 10 with only 1, 2 or 3 making it per year.


so 5 years from now there will be only 5. Why bother with the effort? It will just turn into a popularity vote and not an achievement award...kinda like baseballs all star game. the best players dont play the game.




Not true, I stated earlier there would need to be a committee of honest, loyal, and impartial parties, a board if you will, (all can see the 11 criteria and if a player fits most them, how can anyone be bias?) and if there was 3 per year, then in 5 years, that would be 15. The people who would be eligible for this years end would only be people of the year 2006 as this is at least 2 years on the site and still active, then in the year 2009, the players form the year 2006 and 2007 would then become eligible, perhaps, if this grows, we could go max 5 per year.
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Scott-Land on Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:46 pm

I'm loyal and honest = )


Blitzy- your criteria is a tad extreme as the average lifespan for a player is less than two years ?
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:06 pm

Scott-Land wrote:I'm loyal and honest = )


Blitzy- your criteria is a tad extreme as the average lifespan for a player is less than two years ?


play in the year 2009 and then your eligible


this is suppose to be extreme, most good players do not get into the hall of fame, you have to be great and has to be longevity or too many would get in my friend ;) sometime in 2009 i would think you would be a shoo-in ;)
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Scott-Land on Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:42 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:I'm loyal and honest = )


Blitzy- your criteria is a tad extreme as the average lifespan for a player is less than two years ?


play in the year 2009 and then your eligible


this is suppose to be extreme, most good players do not get into the hall of fame, you have to be great and has to be longevity or too many would get in my friend ;) sometime in 2009 i would think you would be a shoo-in ;)


hehee, I wasn't referring to myself. I just thought there were a lot of great players that may not be eligible- that have already left the site; Jork and Zaw to name a couple. Certainly some in the future as well (from the gaming aspect).

You'll be a stud sporting the yellow jacket Blitzy ! ;)
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:57 am

Scott-Land wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:I'm loyal and honest = )


Blitzy- your criteria is a tad extreme as the average lifespan for a player is less than two years ?


play in the year 2009 and then your eligible


this is suppose to be extreme, most good players do not get into the hall of fame, you have to be great and has to be longevity or too many would get in my friend ;) sometime in 2009 i would think you would be a shoo-in ;)


hehee, I wasn't referring to myself. I just thought there were a lot of great players that may not be eligible- that have already left the site; Jork and Zaw to name a couple. Certainly some in the future as well (from the gaming aspect).

You'll be a stud sporting the yellow jacket Blitzy ! ;)

not if I dont vote him in ! :roll:
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Re: HALL OF FAME

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:57 pm

Scott-Land wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:I'm loyal and honest = )


Blitzy- your criteria is a tad extreme as the average lifespan for a player is less than two years ?


play in the year 2009 and then your eligible


this is suppose to be extreme, most good players do not get into the hall of fame, you have to be great and has to be longevity or too many would get in my friend ;) sometime in 2009 i would think you would be a shoo-in ;)


hehee, I wasn't referring to myself. I just thought there were a lot of great players that may not be eligible- that have already left the site; Jork and Zaw to name a couple. Certainly some in the future as well (from the gaming aspect).

You'll be a stud sporting the yellow jacket Blitzy ! ;)




they would have to meet a lot of the 11 criteria and neither of those names do although they were good at the game and their styles. the committee would have to look at the 11 criteria to see if a player meets many of them to be eligible.
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