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Re: 1ST 5's and TOP 5's

Postby rebelman on Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:14 am

Blitzaholic wrote:
multis or cheats will not be on this list


if that is your policy you need to remove Sky T as although what he did was not as bad as some, it was deemed to be cheating by the multi hunters and resulted in him being blocked from playing with his 2 regular trips partners.
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Postby krusher on Sun Nov 25, 2007 1:18 pm

lol he didnt get blocked from playing with them, he got a warning...
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Re: 1ST 5's and TOP 5's

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Nov 25, 2007 6:52 pm

rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
multis or cheats will not be on this list


if that is your policy you need to remove Sky T as although what he did was not as bad as some, it was deemed to be cheating by the multi hunters and resulted in him being blocked from playing with his 2 regular trips partners.



if his play was deemed by cheating as you say, post the comments in here, cause i dont recall that, but i could be wrong.
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Re: 1ST 5's and TOP 5's

Postby rebelman on Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:05 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
multis or cheats will not be on this list


if that is your policy you need to remove Sky T as although what he did was not as bad as some, it was deemed to be cheating by the multi hunters and resulted in him being blocked from playing with his 2 regular trips partners.



if his play was deemed by cheating as you say, post the comments in here, cause i dont recall that, but i could be wrong.


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yorkiepeter wrote:how long is this gonna be pending for? it devalues the entire ranking system


Sorry, I didn't realize this was still floating around as pending.

They were never officially warned before, though I also thought we made it clear in the first thread that they were bending the rules. Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed.

KA officially warned them when this thread was first created. I'll check on it in a few weeks and if it looks like they are still doing this they will be blocked. I don't want to have to resort to such measures since this would be such a lame form of cheating :roll:


OK the above post by Sully said "Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed." He indicated they got a warning not to practise this "lame form of cheating" again and they would be blocked if they did.

So the outcome was they got a warning to stop this "lame form of cheating" - I agree it is not as serious as being a multi or doing what Krusher did but what they were doing was cheating - so if your rule is "multis or cheats will not be on the list", then he needs to be removed however if you were to change your rule to more minor, lame types of cheats/cheating are allowed then he should remain but under the rule as you currently have it worded he should be dropped.
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Re: 1ST 5's and TOP 5's

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:14 pm

rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
multis or cheats will not be on this list



if that is your policy you need to remove Sky T as although what he did was not as bad as some, it was deemed to be cheating by the multi hunters and resulted in him being blocked from playing with his 2 regular trips partners.




if his play was deemed by cheating as you say, post the comments in here, cause i dont recall that, but i could be wrong.



sully800 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:how long is this gonna be pending for? it devalues the entire ranking system



Sorry, I didn't realize this was still floating around as pending.


They were never officially warned before, though I also thought we made it clear in the first thread that they were bending the rules. Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed.


KA officially warned them when this thread was first created. I'll check on it in a few weeks and if it looks like they are still doing this they will be blocked. I don't want to have to resort to such measures since this would be such a lame form of cheating :roll:



OK the above post by Sully said "Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed." He indicated they got a warning not to practise this "lame form of cheating" again and they would be blocked if they did.


So the outcome was they got a warning to stop this "lame form of cheating" - I agree it is not as serious as being a multi or doing what Krusher did but what they were doing was cheating - so if your rule is "multis or cheats will not be on the list", then he needs to be removed however if you were to change your rule to more minor, lame types of cheats/cheating are allowed then he should remain but under the rule as you currently have it worded he should be dropped.




i follow the CC guidelines and trust sully, if he got a score reset or plays like this again or any find out, yes i could take him off, but since cc never reset his score, it would not be fair for me too, agreed?
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Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:15 pm

Top 5 most users on cc


1. 1213
2. 1202
3. 1191
4. 1158
5. 1130



will add this soon, still copying from other one :roll:


1266
1248
1213
1202
1191




1347 new high

wow, nice jump, update later
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Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:17 pm

most rounds

doing top 5


currently this is the info i have


470183 rounds 481


109511 rounds ended 400


288082 rounds ended 390


205842 rounds ended 334


45500 rounds ended 333



59230 rounds 341


268332 rounds 363


90419 rounds 379


103227 rounds 319


249959 rounds 297 game ended


704071 rounds 304


187179 rounds 301


746010 rounds 229


175704 rounds 251


315900 rounds 262


320963 rounds 250


150052 rounds 282


183512 rounds 264


207959 rounds 232


320960 rounds 234


255573 rounds 215


240959 rounds 342



if i missed any let me know or post in here, ty



again only doing top 5, but any games over 200 rounds may last into top 5


will update this later
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Re: 1ST 5's and TOP 5's

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:19 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
multis or cheats will not be on this list



if that is your policy you need to remove Sky T as although what he did was not as bad as some, it was deemed to be cheating by the multi hunters and resulted in him being blocked from playing with his 2 regular trips partners.




if his play was deemed by cheating as you say, post the comments in here, cause i dont recall that, but i could be wrong.



sully800 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:how long is this gonna be pending for? it devalues the entire ranking system



Sorry, I didn't realize this was still floating around as pending.


They were never officially warned before, though I also thought we made it clear in the first thread that they were bending the rules. Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed.


KA officially warned them when this thread was first created. I'll check on it in a few weeks and if it looks like they are still doing this they will be blocked. I don't want to have to resort to such measures since this would be such a lame form of cheating :roll:



OK the above post by Sully said "Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed." He indicated they got a warning not to practise this "lame form of cheating" again and they would be blocked if they did.


So the outcome was they got a warning to stop this "lame form of cheating" - I agree it is not as serious as being a multi or doing what Krusher did but what they were doing was cheating - so if your rule is "multis or cheats will not be on the list", then he needs to be removed however if you were to change your rule to more minor, lame types of cheats/cheating are allowed then he should remain but under the rule as you currently have it worded he should be dropped.




i follow the CC guidelines and trust sully, if he got a score reset or plays like this again or any find out, yes i could take him off, but since cc never reset his score, it would not be fair for me too, agreed?
i gave him an asterix. he was warned many times to stop and he refused. now he is blocked with playing with his 2nd and 3rd account and his score will tumble.
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Re: 1ST 5's and TOP 5's

Postby rebelman on Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:04 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:


i follow the CC guidelines and trust sully, if he got a score reset or plays like this again or any find out, yes i could take him off, but since cc never reset his score, it would not be fair for me too, agreed?


as do I on both counts but not all cheats not even all convicted multis get resets, in my opinion you either include cheats or not - it does not bother me, but what does bother me is having a policy that you are leaving cheats out and then having one included. I hope and believe SkyT will not cheat again but that does not change the fact what he did was determined to be cheating by the multi hunters and in fairness a huge percentage of the cc community would agree with this determination.
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Postby krusher on Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:22 pm

heck I agree with you and I'm the biggest cheater of them all :)
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Postby AAFitz on Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:27 pm

you realize the more you post pretending that you dont care about what you did and that you got caught... just goes to show how much it did mean to you

it really is fun watching you work so hard at it...but you may want to consider growing up some day...
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Postby Skittles! on Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:36 pm

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Re: 1ST 5's and TOP 5's

Postby khazalid on Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:38 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
rebelman wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
multis or cheats will not be on this list



if that is your policy you need to remove Sky T as although what he did was not as bad as some, it was deemed to be cheating by the multi hunters and resulted in him being blocked from playing with his 2 regular trips partners.




if his play was deemed by cheating as you say, post the comments in here, cause i dont recall that, but i could be wrong.



sully800 wrote:
yorkiepeter wrote:how long is this gonna be pending for? it devalues the entire ranking system



Sorry, I didn't realize this was still floating around as pending.


They were never officially warned before, though I also thought we made it clear in the first thread that they were bending the rules. Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed.


KA officially warned them when this thread was first created. I'll check on it in a few weeks and if it looks like they are still doing this they will be blocked. I don't want to have to resort to such measures since this would be such a lame form of cheating :roll:



OK the above post by Sully said "Account sitting when someone is not going to miss their turn is abuse of the babysitting privileges simply to give your team and advantage. And it is not allowed." He indicated they got a warning not to practise this "lame form of cheating" again and they would be blocked if they did.


So the outcome was they got a warning to stop this "lame form of cheating" - I agree it is not as serious as being a multi or doing what Krusher did but what they were doing was cheating - so if your rule is "multis or cheats will not be on the list", then he needs to be removed however if you were to change your rule to more minor, lame types of cheats/cheating are allowed then he should remain but under the rule as you currently have it worded he should be dropped.




i follow the CC guidelines and trust sully, if he got a score reset or plays like this again or any find out, yes i could take him off, but since cc never reset his score, it would not be fair for me too, agreed?
i gave him an asterix. he was warned many times to stop and he refused. now he is blocked with playing with his 2nd and 3rd account and his score will tumble.


from first impressions of sky's team play id say its unlikely he will fall very far. i wonder how much resentment is borne out against sky for this.. im sure wed all love to play dubs with a single account but its not that different to using msn to direct moves etc which EVERYONE knows happens frequently. when i was mentoring lower ranked players i did this, and although it is good etiquette not to do so a fair bulk of top team players direct lower ranks in this way.
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Postby khazalid on Sun Nov 25, 2007 8:40 pm

as a side note - this is exactly why we have some rank specifications for clan challenges. playing a captain and a private equates to playing two captains with half the score an awful lot of the time, which is as much an abuse of the point system as any other.
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Postby AAFitz on Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:01 pm

i will disagree very slightly here

I believe the difference between communication between two teammates, and actually playing both is monumental...

a team that can communicate well, even to the degree that one player is dictating all the moves, deserves to win... the other player still has to agree and execute correctly... but one player controlling the other eliminates this very important difference, and it is no longer a team...

there are many ways to communicate, msn, telephone, in person... but when someone takes over the other keyboard, it is completely wrong, especially on any kind of a long term basis.

I kind of think this is self evident.
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Postby khazalid on Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:24 pm

AAFitz wrote:i will disagree very slightly here

I believe the difference between communication between two teammates, and actually playing both is monumental...

a team that can communicate well, even to the degree that one player is dictating all the moves, deserves to win... the other player still has to agree and execute correctly... but one player controlling the other eliminates this very important difference, and it is no longer a team...

there are many ways to communicate, msn, telephone, in person... but when someone takes over the other keyboard, it is completely wrong, especially on any kind of a long term basis.

I kind of think this is self evident.


the only difference is one of physicality. assuming i have someone low ranked who will willingly follow my every direction - and there are plenty of them - then the only actual difference comes in the form of an abstraction. logical fallacy i say!
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Postby rebelman on Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:34 pm

khazalid wrote:as a side note - this is exactly why we have some rank specifications for clan challenges. playing a captain and a private equates to playing two captains with half the score an awful lot of the time, which is as much an abuse of the point system as any other.


khazalid wrote:
the only difference is one of physicality. assuming i have someone low ranked who will willingly follow my every direction - and there are plenty of them - then the only actual difference comes in the form of an abstraction. logical fallacy i say!


not all low rankers are like those you describe above in team games, i would be a fairly typical low ranked player and i would regularly question and often disagree with my higher ranked partners in doubles - i also tend to proposed ideas /suggestions for what I believe they should do too, so useing me as a typical low ranked example it would be wrong to stereotype / typecast us low rankers in the way you describe above.
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Postby comic boy on Sun Nov 25, 2007 9:51 pm

khazalid wrote:
AAFitz wrote:i will disagree very slightly here

I believe the difference between communication between two teammates, and actually playing both is monumental...

a team that can communicate well, even to the degree that one player is dictating all the moves, deserves to win... the other player still has to agree and execute correctly... but one player controlling the other eliminates this very important difference, and it is no longer a team...

there are many ways to communicate, msn, telephone, in person... but when someone takes over the other keyboard, it is completely wrong, especially on any kind of a long term basis.

I kind of think this is self evident.


the only difference is one of physicality. assuming i have someone low ranked who will willingly follow my every direction - and there are plenty of them - then the only actual difference comes in the form of an abstraction. logical fallacy i say!


I think its worth remembering that the abuse occured in freestyle triples and the object was not (as in sequential ) to communicate the best move but to perfectly time co-ordinate the moves of 3 players. In this instance it is certainly easier if one person takes all 3 moves !
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Postby khazalid on Sun Nov 25, 2007 10:05 pm

rebel - that makes you the exception rather than the rule.

comic - good point!
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Postby Herakilla on Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:57 am

how about most games won in an hour or a day maybe. ive won about 22 games in the last hour lol
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Postby The1exile on Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:23 am

AAFitz wrote:i will disagree very slightly here

I believe the difference between communication between two teammates, and actually playing both is monumental...


Have you tried playing two accounts as one in doubles (or triples, or whatever) or is this just your expectation?
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Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:24 am

DiM wrote:updated list in the quote bellow.



Blitzaholic wrote:
DiM wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
DiM wrote:how about top 5 map makers? (in score)



can you give me the names DiM, I do want to give the map makers some credit in some form cause of their contributions on enhancing the site.


I was also hoping that someone could provide me info on the the 1st 5 map makers or top 5 map makers (this could be any involvement) of designer or solidifying or strengthening a map in any way.


could some one assist me with this and I could consider it, thx



ok here are the map makers. after the names there's the number of maps produced and the points they have.

when i did this list i considered each and everyone that contributed to a map and got his name on the map. even if he did just the graphics or just the xml. in the case of a revamp i considered both the revamp artist as well as the original artist.


Mr K - 2 - 1522
Bad Speler - 1 - 1796
Keyogi - 2 - 1440
cairnswk - 6 - 893
marval - 1 - 1319
marvaddin - 2 - 2772
jota - 5 - 1464
widowmakers - 7 - 1877
edbeard - 1 - 1849
Evil DIMwit - 1 - 1411
rock solid - 2 - 1730
coleman - 4 - 1307
freakshow - 1 - 976
mibi - 2 - 1862
hoff - 1 - 1401
casper - 1 - 2324
banana stomper - 1 - 1363
spiegelprime - 1 - 1064
mrConfigT - 1 - 1350
DiM - 2 - 2333
Yeti_c - 1 - 1375
johloh - 1 - 1963
oaktown - 1 - 2191
samus - 2 - 2159
fitz69 - 1 - 912
HighCommander540 - 1 - 1082
zim - 1 - 1606
qwert - 2 - 1775
reverend_kyle - 1 - 1403
gimil - 1 - 1292
rjbeals - 1 - 1228


i hope i didn't forget anybody.




actually here is the complete list, with the several new maps, i sure there may be some changes, can anyone let me know so i can give the credit due to who deserves it, ty





finally found it, geez, took forever :lol: ok DiM i may need help with new maps, the last ones and now this time
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Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:25 am

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we know, the rumors were leaked by some horsemen :wink:
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Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:28 am

will add 1st 5 to 2000 points, posts and games played



and will add 1st 5 to 3K points and posts



plus 1st 5 to 3K points and games played






not sure we have 5 for any of these



so for future ideas
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Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:28 am

Herakilla wrote:how about most games won in an hour or a day maybe. ive won about 22 games in the last hour lol


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