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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Jamie on Sat Mar 31, 2012 12:01 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Jamie wrote:None of them. Every single conquerer is nothing but a point farming cheater. If I played a best of 7 series one on one with each of them on a flat rate sequential classic map, I would win the vast majority of those series. Its easy to get points when you play team freestyle games against newbs, especially on small maps, or hard to play maps that newbs and even myself sometimes don't understand. Rail Europe being near the top of the list. Put me one on one on a normal flat rate sequential map where the only real luck is the drop, and I am VERY difficult to beat. Not that I think I am better then every conquerer on the site, but I bet I'm better then most of them in a straight up game.

I accept your challenge



I have started a 7 game series with JOHNNYROCKET24 as he has challenged me. I made 7 games by the parameters I described earlier. If he beats me in at least 4 or more of those games, I will publically retract my previous statement that all conquerers are point farming cheaters. Check out games 10867468 thru 10867474.
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby jiminski on Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:02 am

Jamie wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Jamie wrote:None of them. Every single conquerer is nothing but a point farming cheater. If I played a best of 7 series one on one with each of them on a flat rate sequential classic map, I would win the vast majority of those series. Its easy to get points when you play team freestyle games against newbs, especially on small maps, or hard to play maps that newbs and even myself sometimes don't understand. Rail Europe being near the top of the list. Put me one on one on a normal flat rate sequential map where the only real luck is the drop, and I am VERY difficult to beat. Not that I think I am better then every conquerer on the site, but I bet I'm better then most of them in a straight up game.

I accept your challenge



I have started a 7 game series with JOHNNYROCKET24 as he has challenged me. I made 7 games by the parameters I described earlier. If he beats me in at least 4 or more of those games, I will publically retract my previous statement that all conquerers are point farming cheaters. Check out games 10867468 thru 10867474.



heheh good luck to you both!

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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:10 am

Jim.....Why would you just post links to two games when they are playing seven?

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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby jiminski on Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:13 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:Jim.....Why would you just post links to two games when they are playing seven?

10867468 thru 10867474


heh, well i concede 7 would be better! but i was just re-posting what Jamie put up with links... and Rocket's not joined them yet.
I will be happy to post a whole programme once I know it's there.

edit: ahhh schoolboy error!
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby jiminski on Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:15 am

jiminski wrote:
Jamie wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Jamie wrote:None of them. Every single conquerer is nothing but a point farming cheater. If I played a best of 7 series one on one with each of them on a flat rate sequential classic map, I would win the vast majority of those series. Its easy to get points when you play team freestyle games against newbs, especially on small maps, or hard to play maps that newbs and even myself sometimes don't understand. Rail Europe being near the top of the list. Put me one on one on a normal flat rate sequential map where the only real luck is the drop, and I am VERY difficult to beat. Not that I think I am better then every conquerer on the site, but I bet I'm better then most of them in a straight up game.

I accept your challenge



I have started a 7 game series with JOHNNYROCKET24 as he has challenged me. I made 7 games by the parameters I described earlier. If he beats me in at least 4 or more of those games, I will publically retract my previous statement that all conquerers are point farming cheaters. Check out games 10867468 thru 10867474.



heheh good luck to you both!

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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Ninja Champion on Sat Mar 31, 2012 1:48 am

thebest712 wrote:karelpietertje, he is just the best :D


this is nonsense, you ARE thebest
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby freakns on Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:56 am

Dako wrote:After reading GLG's last post, I voted for him. He is awesome. I want to be like him when I grow up.

i am like him when i get the erect... i mean, when i grow up! well, at least grown parts are like him...
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Master Fenrir on Sat Mar 31, 2012 10:01 am

Jamie wrote:I guess in short, if conquerers played the same types of games I did, there rank would be no higher then mine, if not less.



1 vs. 1 flat rate unlimited games? Are these the types of games that you were referring to?
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby ljex on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:16 pm

Jamie wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Jamie wrote:None of them. Every single conquerer is nothing but a point farming cheater. If I played a best of 7 series one on one with each of them on a flat rate sequential classic map, I would win the vast majority of those series. Its easy to get points when you play team freestyle games against newbs, especially on small maps, or hard to play maps that newbs and even myself sometimes don't understand. Rail Europe being near the top of the list. Put me one on one on a normal flat rate sequential map where the only real luck is the drop, and I am VERY difficult to beat. Not that I think I am better then every conquerer on the site, but I bet I'm better then most of them in a straight up game.

I accept your challenge



I have started a 7 game series with JOHNNYROCKET24 as he has challenged me. I made 7 games by the parameters I described earlier. If he beats me in at least 4 or more of those games, I will publically retract my previous statement that all conquerers are point farming cheaters. Check out games 10867468 thru 10867474.


make it random and you have a second challenger...it should be easy enough for you...i am nothing more than a farmer
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Falkomagno on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:19 pm

Well, it looks like our current conqueror is a beloved one
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:30 pm

Jamie wrote:
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
Jamie wrote:None of them. Every single conquerer is nothing but a point farming cheater. If I played a best of 7 series one on one with each of them on a flat rate sequential classic map, I would win the vast majority of those series. Its easy to get points when you play team freestyle games against newbs, especially on small maps, or hard to play maps that newbs and even myself sometimes don't understand. Rail Europe being near the top of the list. Put me one on one on a normal flat rate sequential map where the only real luck is the drop, and I am VERY difficult to beat. Not that I think I am better then every conquerer on the site, but I bet I'm better then most of them in a straight up game.

I accept your challenge



I have started a 7 game series with JOHNNYROCKET24 as he has challenged me. I made 7 games by the parameters I described earlier. If he beats me in at least 4 or more of those games, I will publically retract my previous statement that all conquerers are point farming cheaters. Check out games 10867468 thru 10867474.


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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby jiminski on Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:22 am

ljex wrote:...
make it random and you have a second challenger...it should be easy enough for you...i am nothing more than a farmer


Did you see this second challenge Jamie?
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Jamie on Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:40 pm

No I didnt see it, but I am totally unfamiliar with over half the maps on this site. A cook could take 4 of 7 games from me depending on what maps the system chose. The main point of my beef is that conquerers get more credit then what they deserve. I don't believe I am even close to the best player on the site, but whoever is has probably never held the conquerer medal. I do believe that Johnnyrocket and Blitzaholic are superior to myself no matter what the parameters, but I challenged EVERY conquerer, so I'll take my whoopin. I should have known Johnny would accept the challenge since he and had a history together about 4 years back. It seems most of the games top 50 players play mainly play team games. When I only played team games, I shot clear up to Colonel and almost never lost. After switching back to regular games my rank dropped off and fluctuates from Corporal to Major. My challenge was that conquers would have a tough time beating me in a standard came of risk. Although my plan appears somewhat flawed at the moment. It would seem I erred in my choice of game with Johnnyrocket. Both of us gained an enormous advantage simply by going first. I usually don't play 2 player games. Probably should have picked chained forts, as unlimited is actually not regular risk, and like I said gives whoever goes first an advantage. Eitherway, we have split the first two games, and both games could have went eitherway with a little luck. Still though going first was key in both games. If ljex wants to play me thats fine, but on a classic map or perhaps a map that plays like a classic map, like Asia, Italy, USA, etc. Nothing with weird rules or hard to read maps. There are maps I am convinced I would lose 100 out of 100 times no matter who I played. Unfortunately, I am one of those people who is black and white in their way of thinking. I either believe I will almost certainly win or almost certainly lose. There's rarely a middle ground with me. I am only comfortable on standard maps with rules most Risk players would be familiar with.

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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby ljex on Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:05 pm

Jamie wrote:No I didnt see it, but I am totally unfamiliar with over half the maps on this site. A cook could take 4 of 7 games from me depending on what maps the system chose. The main point of my beef is that conquerers get more credit then what they deserve. I don't believe I am even close to the best player on the site, but whoever is has probably never held the conquerer medal. I do believe that Johnnyrocket and Blitzaholic are superior to myself no matter what the parameters, but I challenged EVERY conquerer, so I'll take my whoopin. I should have known Johnny would accept the challenge since he and had a history together about 4 years back. It seems most of the games top 50 players play mainly play team games. When I only played team games, I shot clear up to Colonel and almost never lost. After switching back to regular games my rank dropped off and fluctuates from Corporal to Major. My challenge was that conquers would have a tough time beating me in a standard came of risk. Although my plan appears somewhat flawed at the moment. It would seem I erred in my choice of game with Johnnyrocket. Both of us gained an enormous advantage simply by going first. I usually don't play 2 player games. Probably should have picked chained forts, as unlimited is actually not regular risk, and like I said gives whoever goes first an advantage. Eitherway, we have split the first two games, and both games could have went eitherway with a little luck. Still though going first was key in both games. If ljex wants to play me thats fine, but on a classic map or perhaps a map that plays like a classic map, like Asia, Italy, USA, etc. Nothing with weird rules or hard to read maps. There are maps I am convinced I would lose 100 out of 100 times no matter who I played. Unfortunately, I am one of those people who is black and white in their way of thinking. I either believe I will almost certainly win or almost certainly lose. There's rarely a middle ground with me. I am only comfortable on standard maps with rules most Risk players would be familiar with.

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random was only to reduce the luck factor of a map like classic which is played so often everyone knows it. I have sent new terms to your wall, essentially for those reading he sets up 14 games i choose 7 of those 14 to join and we play those.
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Jamie on Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:36 pm

ljex has also challenged me. I changed the parameters somewhat as unlimited forts gives a huge advantage to whomever goes first in a two person games. I selected maps that don't have a big luck factors involved such as maps that give you 12 men to start the game or something silly like that. I chose manual, chained as that is how you would play on a regular risk board at home. Playing ljex will be interesting as I am completely unfamiliar with him. I already know Johnny is superior to me though I still plan to beat him at least 4 out of 7 times. I have no clue what will happen with ljex. Good Luck ljex
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Jamie on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:10 am

I beat ljex 4 games to 3 and he is so upset about it, he is deadbeating the last game.
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby maxfaraday on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:38 am

Jamie wrote:I beat ljex 4 games to 3 and he is so upset about it, he is deadbeating the last game.


I'm not sure it's deadbeating...
Looks more like he thouhgt you'd have won in your previous turn and didn't bother to check on it.
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Jamie on Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:18 am

He was chatting right before he stopped playing, and has been playing in his other games without deadbeating. Its not like he's playing his other turns, and just completely missing our game at the top of his "My Games" list. He's just mad he got beat. It's not like I beat him 6-1 or 7-0 or something. 4-3 is nothing to be ashamed of, just play.
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby ljex on Sat Apr 07, 2012 3:41 am

Jamie wrote:ljex has also challenged me. I changed the parameters somewhat as unlimited forts gives a huge advantage to whomever goes first in a two person games. I selected maps that don't have a big luck factors involved such as maps that give you 12 men to start the game or something silly like that. I chose manual, chained as that is how you would play on a regular risk board at home. Playing ljex will be interesting as I am completely unfamiliar with him. I already know Johnny is superior to me though I still plan to beat him at least 4 out of 7 times. I have no clue what will happen with ljex. Good Luck ljex


meh, you got 5 of 7 starts in manual sequential games and if that wasn't enough i could very easily have won 5/7 if not for your continuous 3 card mixed/blue sets in flat rate games. Fun how you fail to mention those things, or just the fact that you picked some extremely luck based settings on small maps. Take you win but please realize it means very little in a 7 game series.

Jamie wrote:He was chatting right before he stopped playing, and has been playing in his other games without deadbeating. Its not like he's playing his other turns, and just completely missing our game at the top of his "My Games" list. He's just mad he got beat. It's not like I beat him 6-1 or 7-0 or something. 4-3 is nothing to be ashamed of, just play.


so quick to jump to conclusions...one missed turn does not mean i will deadbeat it just means i got up later than i expected
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby comic boy on Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:41 am

Jamie wrote:None of them. Every single conquerer is nothing but a point farming cheater. If I played a best of 7 series one on one with each of them on a flat rate sequential classic map, I would win the vast majority of those series. Its easy to get points when you play team freestyle games against newbs, especially on small maps, or hard to play maps that newbs and even myself sometimes don't understand. Rail Europe being near the top of the list. Put me one on one on a normal flat rate sequential map where the only real luck is the drop, and I am VERY difficult to beat. Not that I think I am better then every conquerer on the site, but I bet I'm better then most of them in a straight up game.


I was lucky enough to be Conqueror for a short time , have never cheated nor employed any device that could remotely be considered farming , think I have played 1 game of freestyle , a handfull of 1 v 1 and barely any newbs since 2007.
In light of this , and the fact that I personally have knowledge of several other Conquerors that dont fit your bill , plus the fact that you took a long break from this site ( so have no idea what went down ), you might wish to reconsider your rather silly generalisation.

PS As a newb I played a guy who was far more experienced and a higher rank , I kicked his arse , he never progressed to Conqueror , his name was Jamie :D
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby freakns on Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:49 am

Jamie wrote:No I didnt see it, but I am totally unfamiliar with over half the maps on this site. A cook could take 4 of 7 games from me depending on what maps the system chose. The main point of my beef is that conquerers get more credit then what they deserve. I don't believe I am even close to the best player on the site, but whoever is has probably never held the conquerer medal. I do believe that Johnnyrocket and Blitzaholic are superior to myself no matter what the parameters, but I challenged EVERY conquerer, so I'll take my whoopin. I should have known Johnny would accept the challenge since he and had a history together about 4 years back. It seems most of the games top 50 players play mainly play team games. When I only played team games, I shot clear up to Colonel and almost never lost. After switching back to regular games my rank dropped off and fluctuates from Corporal to Major. My challenge was that conquers would have a tough time beating me in a standard came of risk. Although my plan appears somewhat flawed at the moment. It would seem I erred in my choice of game with Johnnyrocket. Both of us gained an enormous advantage simply by going first. I usually don't play 2 player games. Probably should have picked chained forts, as unlimited is actually not regular risk, and like I said gives whoever goes first an advantage. Eitherway, we have split the first two games, and both games could have went eitherway with a little luck. Still though going first was key in both games. If ljex wants to play me thats fine, but on a classic map or perhaps a map that plays like a classic map, like Asia, Italy, USA, etc. Nothing with weird rules or hard to read maps. There are maps I am convinced I would lose 100 out of 100 times no matter who I played. Unfortunately, I am one of those people who is black and white in their way of thinking. I either believe I will almost certainly win or almost certainly lose. There's rarely a middle ground with me. I am only comfortable on standard maps with rules most Risk players would be familiar with.

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so you chose flat rate, unlimited reinforcement in 1 vs 1, and you talk about skills? :lol: in these settings blind fold monkey could beat top player with enough luck with sets. hack, even GLG would have a chance against someone other then cooks...
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby mc05025 on Sat Apr 07, 2012 7:20 am

voted Ljex

He is friendly and I like his speed games. Actually it is the only game play I admire and I know I can not be as good as he is + it is exciting and funny even watching some of his speed games
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Jamie on Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Jamie - 4
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Jamie - 4
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Conquerers - 4

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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby mc05025 on Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:55 pm

no. I am watching you for a long time now because you are an extremely good player and I am learning from your games. But till now I sometimes do not understand some of your deep strategies and I do not feel ready to play against you. If I study you for a couple of months I might dare for the impossible but for time being I am too afraid to accept a challenge.
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Re: Favourite Conqueror?

Postby Rodion on Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:58 pm

mc05025 wrote:no. I am watching you for a long time now because you are an extremely good player and I am learning from your games. But till now I sometimes do not understand some of your deep strategies and I do not feel ready to play against you. If I study you for a couple of months I might dare for the impossible but for time being I am too afraid to accept a challenge.


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