CC's 22 CONQUERORs

[ljex]

Farming to me is joining team 2 with ? marks constantly and not deviating to you reach that score. The word farming did not even exist back then.

Then how are kp, demonfork and king herpes listed as farmers...

Also i find it interesting that you list these three as farmers and not KOG as they all had a similar method of becoming #1

[Blitzaholic]

Farming to me is joining team 2 with ? marks constantly and not deviating to you reach that score. The word farming did not even exist back then.

Then how are kp, demonfork and king herpes listed as farmers...

Also i find it interesting that you list these three as farmers and not KOG as they all had a similar method of becoming #1

that is just my definition of farming, I may be wrong, like I said, many have different interpretations, as long as they go by the CC rules, I have no problem with any of it.

KOG had a lot of singles games prior, he did however use speed freestyle farming on city mogul to push him over the top, similar to kp, df, kh as you mentioned, they all are great players, the information I had was they used those techniques to send them over the top, it is very challenging when you get that high, so, you revert to what you can I guess, none of them cheated and they all made conqueror, it is an amazing feat since only 20 players have ever accomplished this. I am just going on the information I had at the time, they all have seen this thread at the times they accomplished this and I don't remember any of them arguing it. They all know I respect them and they are great players, all that page 1 shows the variety of ways players in the past may have achieved getting there, many of them got real high scores from being skilled, but, in order to be # 1, you really have to find a way, something extra to get there as points are so rare to come by when you get so high, it is so hard. So, I commend them all.

[karelpietertje]

Actually, Blitzy, I never felt like you respected any of the freestyle conquerors, at least not for their Conqueror title
If you would truly respect it, you would not use the word "farming" when describing the path they made to the title.

I think people would value this list more if it was written in a more objective manner.
So you could consider not highlighting Thota members, and saying "by freestyle 1v1 games" instead of "freestyle farming".
That way, people can judge by themself.

Cheers, KP

[King_Herpes]

Morning wood! Whoot Whoot!

[Scott-Land]

Actually, Blitzy, I never felt like you respected any of the freestyle conquerors, at least not for their Conqueror title

Cheers, KP

Not quite true-- he holds Snapo and Poo in high regard...would go out on a limb and say myself as well. Can't say he's disrespected anyone on the list-...although very proud of his clan mates which is only natural and should be appreciated.

[Bruceswar]

Actually, Blitzy, I never felt like you respected any of the freestyle conquerors, at least not for their Conqueror title

Cheers, KP

Not quite true-- he holds Snapo and Poo in high regard...would go out on a limb and say myself as well. Can't say he's disrespected anyone on the list-...although very proud of his clan mates which is only natural and should be appreciated.

Not quite true... he had sjnap listed as a farmer until sjnap pointed him out as wrong. As for poo, he played so many styles it is hard to pin him down to 1 style. P.S. He should add every active clan on the list rather than just THOTA. Looks very tacky

[demonfork]

Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

I would tend to agree with this...It's Blitz's thread and its not official. If Blitz wants to label me as a farmer on his list it's his prerogative to do so.

That said, it would be nice of Blitz to clarify as to what criteria he used to determine that I made Conqueror by means of "farming" as well as what his definition of "farming" is.

Yes I made it to the number 1 spot by primarily playing 1v1 freestyle but 99% of the games that I played that got me to #1 were public games that were open to anyone that wished to join them. Making it to #1 was by no means an easy feat to accomplish, towards the end I had to win 20+ games to make up for just 1 loss. In the end I took over the #1 position by challenging the, at the time current Conqueror and best CC player ever King_Herpes, to a series of 1v1's which I was lucky enough to prevail in. Anyone that was there to witness those games will agree that they were intense, hard fought battles that truly gave me the opportunity to not only bring all of my hard work, dedication, sacrifice and skill to the table, but also to once again show that King_Herpes is the greatest of all time. That series of games were the most challenging and provided the most fun for me of any of the 5000 plus games that I have played in the 2 years that I have been here. After it was all said and done and I finally got to see the red star next to my name it was an awesome feeling and I looked back at everything it took over the prior year to make it to that moment and I realized that it was one of the hardest goals, that I ever set for myself, to make (including getting my graduate degree in engineering).

If Blitz wants to equate my accomplishment to "farming" I honestly have no problem with it because myself and many others know otherwise. Besides that, there will always be haters, it comes with the territory.

[billy07]

Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

I would tend to agree with this...It's Blitz's thread and its not official. If Blitz wants to label me as a farmer on his list it's his prerogative to do so.

That said, it would be nice of Blitz to clarify as to what criteria he used to determine that I made Conqueror by means of "farming" as well as what his definition of "farming" is.

Yes I made it to the number 1 spot by primarily playing 1v1 freestyle but 99% of the games that I played that got me to #1 were public games that were open to anyone that wished to join them. Making it to #1 was by no means an easy feat to accomplish, towards the end I had to win 20+ games to make up for just 1 loss. In the end I took over the #1 position by challenging the, at the time current Conqueror and best CC player ever King_Herpes, to a series of 1v1's which I was lucky enough to prevail in. Anyone that was there to witness those games will agree that they were intense, hard fought battles that truly gave me the opportunity to not only bring all of my hard work, dedication, sacrifice and skill to the table, but also to once again show that King_Herpes is the greatest of all time. That series of games were the most challenging and provided the most fun for me of any of the 5000 plus games that I have played in the 2 years that I have been here. After it was all said and done and I finally got to see the red star next to my name it was an awesome feeling and I looked back at everything it took over the prior year to make it to that moment and I realized that it was one of the hardest goals, that I ever set for myself, to make (including getting my graduate degree in engineering).

If Blitz wants to equate my accomplishment to "farming" I honestly have no problem with it because myself and many others know otherwise. Besides that, there will always be haters, it comes with the territory.

speaking for myself. i don't respect any player that gets to the top by beating a bunch of no marks playing freestyle on gimmick maps! i doubt any good players do.

if you get respect for any type of sequential game i'd be extremely surprised. you're a farmer, deal with it son.

[Big Whiskey]

Actually, Blitzy, I never felt like you respected any of the freestyle conquerors, at least not for their Conqueror title

Cheers, KP

Not quite true-- he holds Snapo and Poo in high regard...would go out on a limb and say myself as well. Can't say he's disrespected anyone on the list-...although very proud of his clan mates which is only natural and should be appreciated.

Not quite true... he had sjnap listed as a farmer until sjnap pointed him out as wrong. As for poo, he played so many styles it is hard to pin him down to 1 style. P.S. He should add every active clan on the list rather than just THOTA. Looks very tacky

Not true.Blitz had sjnap listed by playing freestyle team games.The word farmer was never next to his name.U can read the convo. on page 4.

[poo-maker]

This whole "farming" business is a bit silly and biased if you ask me. The term has only been coined in the last couple years in CC and as a result people tend to use it more with the more recent conquerors. It's a fact that the old conquerors that got to the top playing seq team games have strategies that could now be regarded as "farming" techniques such as having players with low scores but that could follow orders join their teams, joining in second against a team of fremium low-ranks and just waiting days for their team games to get to the front page and to get filled by newbies. Top players get to the top by pushing their advantages in games vs weaker players, the only REAL farming that was ever done in CC was done by people like Klobber- winning games vs deadbeats.....

[Blitzaholic]

This whole "farming" business is a bit silly and biased if you ask me. The term has only been coined in the last couple years in CC and as a result people tend to use it more with the more recent conquerors. It's a fact that the old conquerors that got to the top playing seq team games have strategies that could now be regarded as "farming" techniques such as having players with low scores but that could follow orders join their teams, joining in second against a team of fremium low-ranks and just waiting days for their team games to get to the front page and to get filled by newbies. Top players get to the top by pushing their advantages in games vs weaker players, the only REAL farming that was ever done in CC was done by people like Klobber- winning games vs deadbeats.....

and rabbiton did this by joining last and winning over 200 games str8 1vs 1 against ? marks.

as far as the other conqueror's I took the word farming away after reading poo's comments.

[King_Herpes]

Wakka Wakka Wakka! One guy's comment changes your whole murky view on the word and this creates some bizarre passage way of enlightenment back to it's current definition? I liked it better the way it was. Extremely biased from a 1st person point of view!



P.S. I did farm ?'s..... for months but I managed to slip off the list thanks to some letters typed up by a guy named after a stool.






P.S.S. That's not saying much about the consistency and exactness of the facts to begin with.

[Bruceswar]

This whole "farming" business is a bit silly and biased if you ask me. The term has only been coined in the last couple years in CC and as a result people tend to use it more with the more recent conquerors. It's a fact that the old conquerors that got to the top playing seq team games have strategies that could now be regarded as "farming" techniques such as having players with low scores but that could follow orders join their teams, joining in second against a team of fremium low-ranks and just waiting days for their team games to get to the front page and to get filled by newbies. Top players get to the top by pushing their advantages in games vs weaker players, the only REAL farming that was ever done in CC was done by people like Klobber- winning games vs deadbeats.....

and rabbiton did this by joining last and winning over 200 games str8 1vs 1 against ? marks.

as far as the other conqueror's I took the word farming away after reading poo's comments.

Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

[KraphtOne]

Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

It's a fact that the old conquerors that got to the top playing seq team games have strategies that could now be regarded as "farming" techniques such as having players with low scores but that could follow orders join their teams, joining in second against a team of fremium low-ranks and just waiting days for their team games to get to the front page and to get filled by newbies.

Bing f*cking O... these guys at the top bragging about stats and labeling others... who the hell wants to play against a general and 3 cooks and risk losing a shit load of points? nobody... so the game sits there until all noobs join... exactly whom do you think you're fooling you hypocrits

[Bruceswar]

Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

He has had many games in team 2000+... They are open for all to join... He is currently playing in tournament(s), of which many high ranks joined. Anybody who has played vs rabbit will tell you he is a top player. Until you have played vs him in a team game or any other game then really what can you say?

[White Moose]

Rabbiton is one of the best in CC.

Simple as that.

[KraphtOne]

Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

He has had many games in team 2000+... They are open for all to join... He is currently playing in tournament(s), of which many high ranks joined. Anybody who has played vs rabbit will tell you he is a top player. Until you have played vs him in a team game or any other game then really what can you say?

Not saying he's a bad player, just don't try to convince me that he got to conquerer in any way that is more legit than the BS ways others did it... He plays team games? He plays tournaments?
Rabbiton Team Games Map Rank
Totals Sergeant66 +334 91 from 120(76%))
Rabbiton Tournament Map Rank
Totals Private66 -66 64 from 102(63%)
Rabbiton 1vs1 Freestyle Map Rank
Totals Brigadier238 +2262 472 from 484(98%) Relative Rank - N00b Farmer (0.300)

Rabbiton got to 4900 points in may of 2009 and has played less than 100 games since... Like i say, not saying he's a bad player... but he did not earn his spot anymore than some of the others that draw complaints... Took advantage when there was no rule, and has barely played any games since...

[rabbiton]

Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

He has had many games in team 2000+... They are open for all to join... He is currently playing in tournament(s), of which many high ranks joined. Anybody who has played vs rabbit will tell you he is a top player. Until you have played vs him in a team game or any other game then really what can you say?

Not saying he's a bad player, just don't try to convince me that he got to conquerer in any way that is more legit than the BS ways others did it... He plays team games? He plays tournaments?
Rabbiton Team Games Map Rank
Totals Sergeant66 +334 91 from 120(76%))
Rabbiton Tournament Map Rank
Totals Private66 -66 64 from 102(63%)
Rabbiton 1vs1 Freestyle Map Rank
Totals Brigadier238 +2262 472 from 484(98%) Relative Rank - N00b Farmer (0.300)

Rabbiton got to 4900 points in may of 2009 and has played less than 100 games since... Like i say, not saying he's a bad player... but he did not earn his spot anymore than some of the others that draw complaints... Took advantage when there was no rule, and has barely played any games since...

You guys need to just snip it and listen to my official biographer KraphtOne. Yeah, that's right.... following on from his classic "Blitzaholic: A Statue Of Thyself In Every Home!", he is hard at work on "rabbiton: a most illegitimate conqueror".

I understand the confusion because I myself had thought I only reached 4900 fairly recently,
and I pointed to the Maprank thing to support this delusion, but Kraphty pointed out that Maprank didnt work for that... just like it didn't work for listing my relative rank for things other than 1v1 freestyle! Oh Wellz, I thought, I'll just wait for the book to come out!

See what I'd thought, actually was that I reached around 4300 or so, as the NW (Noob Whisperer) then *shockingly* my points continued to climb on the basis of:

1) 1v1 freestyle casual on waterloo (games that i started),
2) long running singles stalemates ending in my favor,
3) team games which I seem to keep winning a high % of

*But* turns out my recollection was faulty, and KraphtOne has answered history's call to set us straight. And seriously, the book should be great if his writing skill is as sublime as the gameplay I witnessed from him in the one game we played together.

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

there is nothing bias with my thread. you obtain the score and I document it if it is within the top 100 all time. the only players not listed in the top 100 are players that have been officially busted by the admins for multi accounts, etc and are documented at the bottom of the post as a cheater with the link to their thread on why they were busted. I dont control players to cheat and only document legit scores.

[Bones2484]

Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

there is nothing bias with my thread. you obtain the score and I document it if it is within the top 100 all time. the only players not listed in the top 100 are players that have been officially busted by the admins for multi accounts, etc and are documented at the bottom of the post as a cheater with the link to their thread on why they were busted. I dont control players to cheat and only document legit scores.

Wrong, JR. You put players on the wall of shame that you don't like. Remember, a warning is not the same as an "official bust".

Care to show me where the "official busts" are for these two players?

MOBAJOBG- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93694&hilit=farm
KraphtOne- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=100025

I'm actually shocked that you haven't added David Hoekstra to your wall of shame yet.

[rabbiton]

oh, and blitzybaby, while i think of it, i'd like to correct a number of issues with my entry in your most prestigious list:

the current erroneous entry:

19. Rabbiton (1 day) mostly by 1 vs 1 noob farming

should be:

18.5. rABBITON (1 minute) totally by 1 vs 1 noob farming*

*not thota member, sans statue in honor, ejected from hall of fame, utterly fails to blitz, nyet by fancy list-licking, most unsatisfying half-conqueror ever

and also adjust your number of conquerors to 19.5.

[KraphtOne]

Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

there is nothing bias with my thread. you obtain the score and I document it if it is within the top 100 all time. the only players not listed in the top 100 are players that have been officially busted by the admins for multi accounts, etc and are documented at the bottom of the post as a cheater with the link to their thread on why they were busted. I dont control players to cheat and only document legit scores.

Wrong, JR. You put players on the wall of shame that you don't like. Remember, a warning is not the same as an "official bust".

Care to show me where the "official busts" are for these two players?

MOBAJOBG- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93694&hilit=farm
KraphtOne- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=100025

I'm actually shocked that you haven't added David Hoekstra to your wall of shame yet.

exactly, i was told in a PM not to play that setting anymore until they fixed new recruits being able join... which was a something i brought up in the Suggestions Forum (no new recruits in feudal)... yet somehow i'm a cheater to JR ( the second biggest piece of crap noob farmerer behind david hoekstra) because i played a couple hundred games under those settings... we all have map rank, map rank me in feudal and then map rank me with 4 player fuedal freestyle casual... the games where the noobs were joining is a fraction of what i play... Johnny and Rabbit have over 3/4 of their games against people that have zero clue of what they are doing... and that's not to say they are bad players... just that they are chicken shit... keep making your lists boys... you're only fooling the teenagers that you're farming on anyway... makes me laugh anytime i see JR or alster or Blitz passing judgement on others... any intelligent person sees how you guys get your stats... i've played almost 10,000 games and keep my rank well above 2000 at all time... 90% of the players on CC are below major, yet somehow i remain an equalitarian... JR and alster stay major/captain and only play noobs to equal out their tourney losses, and because of this have very low relative ratings... Bltiz has done one better and recruits cooks to partner so that no good players will join and he can be safe from losing 70 points if the game goes wrong... like i say, i'm not implying that i'm better or you guys are better, only that i don't start a list that says "these are the best players at 1vs1 freestyle" and then make asterisks next to those that play different settings than i... unfortunately the way this site is set up, if you make it to conquerer you probably did something shady to get there...[/quote][/quote][/quote]

[Blitzaholic]

Actually rabbit has played almost nothing but team games. Sure he gained points by playing ?'s long ago in 2008 but since the rules have been in place he has followed them. Also he was never conquer back in 2008. He made it in 2009. To say he made conquer by those games is a bit much given he has not played one of those in over a year?

He got up to his current score with the extreme farming and then literally sat there until those above him dropped... yes he plays team games now, but very few and very far between...

He has had many games in team 2000+... They are open for all to join... He is currently playing in tournament(s), of which many high ranks joined. Anybody who has played vs rabbit will tell you he is a top player. Until you have played vs him in a team game or any other game then really what can you say?

Not saying he's a bad player, just don't try to convince me that he got to conquerer in any way that is more legit than the BS ways others did it... He plays team games? He plays tournaments?
Rabbiton Team Games Map Rank
Totals Sergeant66 +334 91 from 120(76%))
Rabbiton Tournament Map Rank
Totals Private66 -66 64 from 102(63%)
Rabbiton 1vs1 Freestyle Map Rank
Totals Brigadier238 +2262 472 from 484(98%) Relative Rank - N00b Farmer (0.300)

Rabbiton got to 4900 points in may of 2009 and has played less than 100 games since... Like i say, not saying he's a bad player... but he did not earn his spot anymore than some of the others that draw complaints... Took advantage when there was no rule, and has barely played any games since...

correct from what I recall, but, it was almost 2 years ago and rabbiton called himself a noob whisperer, so there you go.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=59558

[Blitzaholic]

Firth, just make your own thread then.

This one, along with JR's "high scores" thread aren't official and include terrible biases and grudges. You are free to make your own list and mark anyone you want as a farmer/cheat as well.

there is nothing bias with my thread. you obtain the score and I document it if it is within the top 100 all time. the only players not listed in the top 100 are players that have been officially busted by the admins for multi accounts, etc and are documented at the bottom of the post as a cheater with the link to their thread on why they were busted. I dont control players to cheat and only document legit scores.

Wrong, JR. You put players on the wall of shame that you don't like. Remember, a warning is not the same as an "official bust".

Care to show me where the "official busts" are for these two players?

MOBAJOBG- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=93694&hilit=farm
KraphtOne- viewtopic.php?f=239&t=100025

I'm actually shocked that you haven't added David Hoekstra to your wall of shame yet.

exactly, i was told in a PM not to play that setting anymore until they fixed new recruits being able join... which was a something i brought up in the Suggestions Forum (no new recruits in feudal)... yet somehow i'm a cheater to JR ( the second biggest piece of crap noob farmerer behind david hoekstra) because i played a couple hundred games under those settings... we all have map rank, map rank me in feudal and then map rank me with 4 player fuedal freestyle casual... the games where the noobs were joining is a fraction of what i play... Johnny and Rabbit have over 3/4 of their games against people that have zero clue of what they are doing... and that's not to say they are bad players... just that they are chicken shit... keep making your lists boys... you're only fooling the teenagers that you're farming on anyway... makes me laugh anytime i see JR or alster or Blitz passing judgement on others... any intelligent person sees how you guys get your stats... i've played almost 10,000 games and keep my rank well above 2000 at all time... 90% of the players on CC are below major, yet somehow i remain an equalitarian... JR and alster stay major/captain and only play noobs to equal out their tourney losses, and because of this have very low relative ratings... Bltiz has done one better and recruits cooks to partner so that no good players will join and he can be safe from losing 70 points if the game goes wrong... like i say, i'm not implying that i'm better or you guys are better, only that i don't start a list that says "these are the best players at 1vs1 freestyle" and then make asterisks next to those that play different settings than i... unfortunately the way this site is set up, if you make it to conquerer you probably did something shady to get there...

[/quote][/quote][/quote]

kraphtone you may be busted again, see game chat here: Game 6968464

2010-05-17 04:48:27 - CAPK81: 10 games like this wow i didnt sign up for these games fess up who signed me up ?
2010-05-17 04:48:49 - CAPK81: i am trying to keep my games between 5-10
2010-05-17 04:49:57 - CAPK81: who ever signed me up take my turns i will not be making them and PLEASE DO NOT DO IT AGAIN
2010-05-17 04:50:48 - CAPK81: this is one of the reasons people dont want to give passwords out


you simply cannot join a bunch of players into my games, then join for them when they did not even want to, you join 1st in like a dozen of my games and invited them then logged and joined for them, as you can see CAPK81 is angry at this, why would you do that? it is a form of abuse kraphtone. also you can see he wants you to take all his turns for the mess up you made. when your own partners are mad at you, well then, welcome to my foe list.

[Falkomagno]

rabiton 1 day? riiight

herpes 123 days?.....doubt it