hahaha3hahaha has been GUESTED

[AAFitz]

Since by your own admission you won't read, why are you baiting by asking?

p.s. In other words you said, "unlike stahr who understands not everyone will agree but at least gives valid reasons without twisting the original words; you don't have to agree or use the original wording because you know best."

It is your right to interpret something however you want. However, I said nothing like that.

[stahrgazer]

then actually quoting the posts might be more useful than just saying I did something wrong repeatedly.

Yeah, well, the difference is, when I quoted you, I didn't misquote you, unlike what you've been doing all this thread to haha.

[AAFitz]

then actually quoting the posts might be more useful than just saying I did something wrong repeatedly.

Yeah, well, the difference is, when I quoted you, I didn't misquote you, unlike what you've been doing all this thread to haha.

Show me the misquotes. Or dont. I stand by my decision, and what Ive written... think of it what you will.

But now I think you may really just be baiting me here, so say what you want. My opinion and reasoning is clear enough Id say.

[stahrgazer]

Show me the misquotes.

I did. You didn't read them, or you did and lied, or reserve the right not to review pertinent information because you've already decided it's irrelevant and whatnot, in the 12 hours or so of pm's that began with high praises to me, continued with a very nastily phrased "joke" that shows you can be a flaming bigot yourself, or think it's funny to pretend to be one.. and continued through because i did show you some of your errors to which you responded, as you have here, (quite a few times i might add, you get real boring at times) "he was definitely trolling before because he flamed me and medefe here later."

[AAFitz]

Show me the misquotes.

I did. You didn't read them, or you did and lied, or reserve the right not to review pertinent information because you've already decided it's irrelevant and whatnot, in the 12 hours or so of pm's that began with high praises to me, continued with a very nastily phrased "joke" that shows you can be a flaming bigot yourself, or think it's funny to pretend to be one.. and continued through because i did show you some of your errors to which you responded, as you have here, (quite a few times i might add, you get real boring at times) "he was definitely trolling before because he flamed me and medefe here later."

Well, first of all, I dont believe I ever said haha flamed anyone. I just quoted what he wrote. You're accusing him of flaming, not me. For me his comments just solidified my original opinion that he was indeed trolling in the first place.
I also never said he was definitely trolling. I said I definitely believe he was trolling. I fully and thoroughly explained why earlier in this thread. I reserve my right to form my own opinion however I want, but accept that it is only an opinion, and never claim it to be anything but.

And, while you seem to be very deeply hurt by our pms...they were just meant as a private conversation. If you confused them with this discussion, I am sorry. But, it was without a doubt a private conversation, and if you misunderstood any of it, all I can do is say sorry. If you misunderstood my joke..which you didn't as you joked right back, and laughed and said you had a sense of humor, as I recall...Again, I am sorry. But that was a private conversation...and irrelevant to anything in here. If you want to quote what I typed in here, and stop just saying I did something wrong... great. But this is completely irrelevant to the topic, and you must know that.

And yes, I would imagine I am very boring at times. I even would go so far as to say I even bore myself sometimes. That I agree will not take long to prove, so I concede that 100%. I should maybe even post it in my sig under jefjefs quote: "I AAFitz can be boring at times" though honestly, at this point, I think its common knowledge

But again, its all irrelevant to the topic is it not?

[Captain_Scarlet]

heaven forbid ha3ha ever gets banned - seeing how long this thread has continued following a 24 hour forum vacation although I enjoy Fitz's commentary

[stahrgazer]

But again, its all irrelevant to the topic is it not?

No.. not when you initiated the pm's because of the topic, continued the pm's because of the topic, made flagrantly biased racial homophobic comments in your pm, invited additional information on the topic in the pms, and call yours jokes while believing so fervently that haha's post, which wasnt NEAR as nasty as yours, just had to be trolling.

I didn't take offense to haha's post, and similarly, I didn't take offense to your pm. You, on the other hand, took offense to one while perpetrating worse with the other.
Hypocritical, at best.

edit: yup, i joked back. I told you not to call me a bastard, but that you could call me a bitch or a cunt. However, I did NOT joke back with the racist bigotted types of remarks you made. (and your making them is what killed any respect i might have had for your 'belief' that haha was trolling)

[Captain_Scarlet]

But again, its all irrelevant to the topic is it not?

yada yada yada No.. not when you initiated the pm's because of the topic, continued the pm's because of the topic, made flagrantly biased racial homophobic comments in your pm, invited additional information on the topic in the pms, and call yours jokes while believing so fervently that haha's post, which wasnt NEAR as nasty as yours, just had to be trolling.

I didn't take offense to haha's post, and similarly, I didn't take offense to your pm. You, on the other hand, took offense to one while perpetrating worse with the other.
Hypocritical, at best.

edit: yup, i joked back. I told you not to call me a bastard, but that you could call me a bitch or a cunt. However, I did NOT joke back with the racist bigotted types of remarks you made. (and your making them is what killed any respect i might have had for your 'belief' that haha was trolling) yad yada yada

is it really necessary to use that sort of language? you insult all females with the use of thoes terms and you talk about respect

[Army of GOD]

Vigilante mod powers activated:

Thread: locked.

[hahaha3hahaha]

Well, AAfitz is foed to save me page space, nothing left to discuss. Unless AA can produce anything new anytime soon(which he hasn't done in past 10 pages or so) it's time for the thread to be locked. Good argument.

[Captain_Scarlet]

Well, AAfitz is foed to save me page space, nothing left to discuss. Unless AA can produce anything new anytime soon(which he hasn't done in past 10 pages or so) it's time for the thread to be locked. Good argument.

so how many pages long is this thread? imagine a world without foeing and being forced to read all that dribble

this is gone on for so long I had to look up why you got the vacation ? cant understand the fascination with nazi shite personally - I know least we forget but it seems to be raised with increasing frequency in forums for no apparent reason

[AAFitz]

But again, its all irrelevant to the topic is it not?

No.. not when you initiated the pm's because of the topic, continued the pm's because of the topic, made flagrantly biased racial homophobic comments in your pm, invited additional information on the topic in the pms, and call yours jokes while believing so fervently that haha's post, which wasnt NEAR as nasty as yours, just had to be trolling.

I didn't take offense to haha's post, and similarly, I didn't take offense to your pm. You, on the other hand, took offense to one while perpetrating worse with the other.
Hypocritical, at best.

edit: yup, i joked back. I told you not to call me a bastard, but that you could call me a bitch or a cunt. However, I did NOT joke back with the racist bigotted types of remarks you made. (and your making them is what killed any respect i might have had for your 'belief' that haha was trolling)

Feel free to translate or paraphrase anything I said in my pms or in the forum as you wish. Or actually post what I actually said instead of making it up. Granted, I was joking with you in a private conversation, and certainly not posted to incite a riot on CC...given that I was joking with you, and you only in a private conversation.

I do admit that I use the word bastard, but it is a failing as my name fitz actually means "bastard son of". I will be more sensitive to its meaning in the future. If you think it is equivalent to those other two words you used, again, all I can do is apologize. Personally, I dont remember you using those words, and since I didnt even realize you were a woman till late last night...Ill just have to guess that post was one of the many you sent that I simply ignored. Since I did not even realize you were a woman, my my humor was intended for a man, with a sense of humor. And again. Not only was it clear I was joking...but you that you knew it then, and now. I also did not make racist or bigotted remarks. It was also a private discussion. But, you are free to once again translate them as such if you want to.

And again, im not asking you to respect my belief that haha was trolling. Especially since this was your reasoning:

Thanks, and it amazes me which side of this particular fence I'm sitting on (as we covered in pm) but I'm on this particular side of the fence because I've seen much worse get tolerated on CC.

Myself, I formed my opinion based on what he actually wrote. The examples of "much worse" would be helpful. So far the only example was Eddie with his shirt off in a movie meant to educate and entertain about neo-nazis.

[AAFitz]

Well, AAfitz is foed to save me page space, nothing left to discuss. Unless AA can produce anything new anytime soon(which he hasn't done in past 10 pages or so) it's time for the thread to be locked. Good argument.

I agree.

[MeDeFe]

On the other hand I want medefe to finish the fight she/he started. If I remember correctly he/she left at the exact time jef and star joined in.

I actually left when this thread started growing at an approximate rate of 6 pages/day with 85% of the content of any post being a repetition of something already said. There's only so much stuff I can address.
If someone could sum up the main points of criticism I need to respond to and stahrgazer and AAFitz could take a break in their discussion for a day or so I'll happily respond.

[jefjef]

On the other hand I want medefe to finish the fight she/he started. If I remember correctly he/she left at the exact time jef and star joined in.

I actually left when this thread started growing at an approximate rate of 6 pages/day with 85% of the content of any post being a repetition of something already said. There's only so much stuff I can address.
If someone could sum up the main points of criticism I need to respond to and stahrgazer and AAFitz could take a break in their discussion for a day or so I'll happily respond.

Well I hardly believe a word you just said. CC and the mod clan has been watching this very closely. Don't lie about that. I have pm'd 3 mods to get this thread locked. Guess what. Here Is MeDe posting. Guess it's been decided that locking this is your baby. The others don't seem to want to touch it.

How about ya reach over and click that lock button. You know what has been said in this thread. It's probably the only place you've been for a few days.

Lock it or respond.

[Captain_Scarlet]

I predict a move to Monkey Business

[AAFitz]

On the other hand I want medefe to finish the fight she/he started. If I remember correctly he/she left at the exact time jef and star joined in.

I actually left when this thread started growing at an approximate rate of 6 pages/day with 85% of the content of any post being a repetition of something already said. There's only so much stuff I can address.
If someone could sum up the main points of criticism I need to respond to and stahrgazer and AAFitz could take a break in their discussion for a day or so I'll happily respond.

Well I hardly believe a word you just said. CC and the mod clan has been watching this very closely. Don't lie about that. I have pm'd 3 mods to get this thread locked. Guess what. Here Is MeDe posting. Guess it's been decided that locking this is your baby. The others don't seem to want to touch it.

How about ya reach over and click that lock button. You know what has been said in this thread. It's probably the only place you've been for a few days.

Lock it or respond.

I sent him a message last night. I begged him to lock it. Begged him. He apologized and said he wont moderate threads about him...which I not only believe, but agree is his only option.

If he touched this thread, he would be accused of favoritism and abusing his powers in a personal matter.

Stahr has completely turned this into some attack on me, because of a pm I didnt feel like reading, which.. and I quote...she called a "crime". I feel obliged to answer the complaints and accusations, as they are directed specifically at me, and are falsely accusing me of a great number of things now. But feel that conversation, while perfectly acceptable, should be in another thread. This one, should only about hahas banning and why, he was, but I am being forced to answer allegations of bigotry, racism...in pms mind you.. as well as baiting, spamming, trolling...and maybe even flaming at some point. I do not see one example of them here, as I have asked for repeatedly..but still the allegations continue. Maybe I am supposed to not answer them, but I honestly have never seen a thread turn into a personal attack for so long, so I honestly do not know what to do, except hope it gets locked... or split, so the allegations can continue, maybe with an actual example...and where I can actually feel comfortable addressing them.

[MeDeFe]

Well I hardly believe a word you just said. CC and the mod clan has been watching this very closely. Don't lie about that. I have pm'd 3 mods to get this thread locked. Guess what. Here Is MeDe posting. Guess it's been decided that locking this is your baby. The others don't seem to want to touch it.

How about ya reach over and click that lock button. You know what has been said in this thread. It's probably the only place you've been for a few days.

Lock it or respond.

I've been keeping half an eye on it. But if you log in and skim what's new and there isn't much over 2 pages, and then again 8 hours later and there are 3 new pages of bickering over who said what and who twisted whose words you sort of lose any motivation to do much about it, even if it's only to reply. I've already stated that I will not take any action as a moderator in this thread, it was started because of my decisions and actions, anything I do as a moderator in this thread would be wrong. I have no idea what the other mods have been up to the last few days.

As for any other response, if someone gives me the main points of criticism I'll happily get to it.

[jefjef]

Well I hardly believe a word you just said. CC and the mod clan has been watching this very closely. Don't lie about that. I have pm'd 3 mods to get this thread locked. Guess what. Here Is MeDe posting. Guess it's been decided that locking this is your baby. The others don't seem to want to touch it.

How about ya reach over and click that lock button. You know what has been said in this thread. It's probably the only place you've been for a few days.

Lock it or respond.

I've been keeping half an eye on it. But if you log in and skim what's new and there isn't much over 2 pages, and then again 8 hours later and there are 3 new pages of bickering over who said what and who twisted whose words you sort of lose any motivation to do much about it, even if it's only to reply. I've already stated that I will not take any action as a moderator in this thread, it was started because of my decisions and actions, anything I do as a moderator in this thread would be wrong. I have no idea what the other mods have been up to the last few days.

As for any other response, if someone gives me the main points of criticism I'll happily get to it.

As you just admitted you have been watching. Your aware of what has been stated.

Well if you lock it I will not scream favoritism. I started this thread and have asked it to be locked. I have nothing new left to say as do others.

The subject of this thread has agreed it's time to lock it. Even the man of many many words has requested it.

It has run it's course.

Thank you.

[clapper011]

as you wish. oh but dont think I am playing favourites either just because I am doing as you ask