Admins/Mods

[AndyDufresne]

And some people kiss ass better than JOHNNYROCKET24 - congratulations, you win a medal for having your lips firmly secured on their (admin/mods) butts.

Not everyone who agrees with Team CC is trying to kiss up. Targeting users who disagree with you, for whatever reason, detracts from your overall argument and makes it simply come down to "I want things my way." People like a positive forum atmosphere, and I think a large portion are tired of always getting lumped into the "I r luv TEAM CCs!"

Listen, I heard it the first time, I don't need to hear it a second time. Listen people, I know you don't like what I have to say because I have some extremely good points. I'll tell you this, no one has come to my 'defence' because they're too scared to be oppressed by Team CC and I have no problems speaking my mind and even being bold about it.

I honestly find it hard to believe anyone is feeling oppressed on an internet forum board about World Domination.

If I don't like something and I'm paying for it, I have EVERY right to speak my mind - simple as that. And all these idiots are complaining or saying that I'm being negative, or asking me to provide examples, etc.

Right, and you do have the option to speak your mind if you do not like how things are being done. However, no one wants to listen to combative attacks. A perfect example of this has been the Foundry ever since it was created. People are always more receptive when you talk about suggestions, concerns, comments, in positive, respectful, and polite manner

Again, why is my original point of how there is no explanation as to what happens when a complaint about an admin/mod is issued? It has been avoided multiple times.

I'm not exactly sure what you are referring to---but like any organization, some things are handled behind the scenes when in it involves personnel issues.

All they ask for is an example, yet what does that prove? It proves that if I have something valid to provide that they will come up with some bullshit answer and or re-word their justification on their decision. Listen, please take the time to read my points. Please take the time to respect my opinions. PLEASE don't repeat what has already been said or it proves what an idiot you are.

I think people are listening, reading, and generally respecting you. However, calling people idiots is never a good way to get people to listen to you further.


--Andy

[edwinissweet]

um, maybe lack should consider returning him his precious money and then give him a permaban?

[Chariot of Fire]

PLEASE don't repeat what has already been said or it proves what an idiot you are.

But haven't you used the same tired argument time and time again?

There are no 'favours' on CC, so your theory that if one supports a moderator's decision is 'kissing ass' then what, may I ask, is the payback? There is none. It's simply a way of expressing one's agreement, as in "If I had the authority to have done the same thing would I have done? Hell yeah"....and we're in possession of fewer salient facts than they are, so I tend to trust their judgment. It's for this reason that they were given the privilege in the first place, and some may choose to respect that whilst others evidently may not.

[Qwert]

I must say,that one thing what is left in memory,its that in mine Bracket Tournament,kotaro regulary posted,that he want to play a tournament,and he regulary join a First round games against Dragon Dor,and when i checked all games i notice that he miss turns in all 3 games,i whas supprised,and Dragon dor too, and i even ask why he miss turns,but never get explanation.Very strange things for me, because i dont understand what he get from this.

[Master Fenrir]

And some people kiss ass better than JOHNNYROCKET24 - congratulations, you win a medal for having your lips firmly secured on their (admin/mods) butts.

Dude...what? Nothing that I said was pro-establishment. I agreed with one statement that a mod made. I didn't, nor have I ever said that I will side with mods/admins regardless of the circumstances.

If I don't like something and I'm paying for it, I have EVERY right to speak my mind - simple as that.

I agree. Rage on. I was just saying that JP's point that you have the option to not pay for it in the future if you're that pissed off about things is valid. I mean, if you think Ford vehicles suck, do you keep buying Fords and continue to get pissed off about the car, or do you buy a different make? (Your current Ford isn't under warranty in this analogy.)

(1) Again, why is my original point of how there is no explanation as to what happens when a complaint about an admin/mod is issued? It has been avoided multiple times. (2) All they ask for is an example, yet what does that prove? It proves that if I have something valid to provide that they will come up with some bullshit answer and or re-word their justification on their decision.

I agree with the first part, but not the second, which is why I'm waiting for you to provide the proof so that we can all see how it's dealt with.

Listen, please take the time to read my points. Please take the time to respect my opinions.

I did read your points and I do respect your opinion. You're a good player, Owen, and I'm not trying to start shit with you. I was just offering forth my opinion. Truth be told, I found Kotaro amusing as hell the majority of the time, and I am a bit sad to see him go. His trash talk of TOFU, as over-the-top as it was, had me in stitches. (Sorry, CoF, but watching you try to stay polite was hilarious.) My point was that I think the improvements and upgrades to the game outweigh the perceived degeneration of the forum. Don't you agree?

PLEASE don't repeat what has already been said or it proves what an idiot you are.

I don't think that much of what I said was repetitive, but okay.

[L M S]

If you wish to take your money elsewhere Owenator, feel free to do so.

Congrats to JP for understanding a free market economy. I think that this is 100% the correct attitude to have. Some people disagree with the rules, their enforcement, and the fairness in which they are enforced, and I agree that the rule system isn't perfect. However, you can't say that this site hasn't improved in the past few months.

Recently, we've see the freestyle fix, the birth of manual deployment, Whac-a-Mod 2, and 3 new sets of medals. The site IS improving, just not in the way you would like. Steps have been taken to entice you into spending $25 a year for premium, but if you aren't happy, you have the freedom to spend your money elsewhere. I don't think that there is anything wrong with a moderator pointing this out.

And some people kiss ass better than JOHNNYROCKET24 - congratulations, you win a medal for having your lips firmly secured on their (admin/mods) butts. Listen, I heard it the first time, I don't need to hear it a second time. Listen people, I know you don't like what I have to say because I have some extremely good points. I'll tell you this, no one has come to my 'defence' because they're too scared to be oppressed by Team CC and I have no problems speaking my mind and even being bold about it. If I don't like something and I'm paying for it, I have EVERY right to speak my mind - simple as that. And all these idiots are complaining or saying that I'm being negative, or asking me to provide examples, etc. Again, why is my original point of how there is no explanation as to what happens when a complaint about an admin/mod is issued? It has been avoided multiple times. All they ask for is an example, yet what does that prove? It proves that if I have something valid to provide that they will come up with some bullshit answer and or re-word their justification on their decision. Listen, please take the time to read my points. Please take the time to respect my opinions. PLEASE don't repeat what has already been said or it proves what an idiot you are.

UM,

you don't like something AND you are paying for it

.......you are contradicting yourself. That doesn't make sense, not once have I gone to a restaurant where I didn't like the food or service and then return to give them another chance. The point is you have the choice, why would you CHOOSE to pay for something you don't like? There are other sites. There are other ways to spend your money. If you want to be a martyr that is one thing, if you just want to create conflict for the sake of it, that is another thing and/or if you are just looking for attention that is fine too (to each his own I say) but, admit your platform is a shallowly disguised attempt at being argumentative, self serving or at the very least contradictory to your own actions. Your opinions are not disrespected, in fact they have been discussed/argued thoughtfully by those who responded for what they are....opinions. Bottom line is you are not a mod. You do not have any control over the systems and procedures CC uses to discipline users who break the RULES. You are a user who chose to pay to belong to a for profit website that you do not own. Those procedures are in place to protect a larger community and give the site a recognized structure for all of us to follow so our experience here won't be ruined by someone who wants to cheat or flame or bait etc..... The rules are clearly posted, to gain access to this site one must accept and agree to them AS WRITTEN. If you want to change them do something constructive, become a mod or start a constructive thread. Passive-aggressive posting wont help get your point across and it never will.

[Mr Changsha]

One thing I don't understand. A frequently voiced complaint is that the banned persons were witty, creative, and interesting posters. While some challenge that, let's take is as a given assumption. Thus, I have a question. Why don't those complaining post witty, creative and interesting posts themselves? Why the monotonous anti-mod and admin mantra? Certainly you guys can ridicule an over-60 dim-wit like me with some humor and creativity. I should be an easy target.

Well I for one always try to add a bit of colour to my rants..I think everyone is happier that way.

However, in your case I have to hold my pen. I know full well that if I launch on you or any other moderator/admin I am liable to get a ban, especially if I mock you. Of course you bait someone like me to do so, knowing full well that you'll report my post and get me banned...again.

Clever stuff.

Interestingly, owen's isolation here (at least until I noticed the thread) is due to the fact that Andy has booted almost every dissenting voice over the last 6 months. Those that are left are either refusing to post (the BpB stable is pretty much given up with GD as an example), can't be bothered to post or are painfully aware that one slip will be pounced upon by the admins.

Ever wondered why jiminski doesn't post anymore? Absolutely wonderful writer who spent months arguing for the freedom to express. He gave up. Fruitcake gave up. I've basically given up but decided to come back and insult you all again. It makes me feel better. Never mind those that have just been banned outright: TOM, owenshooter, DM, General Stoneham, Jeff Hardy and others.

The lack of support for owen here merely means you narrow-minded sods have pretty much won. You've reported us out of the game.

Jolly good.

Final thought: I realised a while ago that Andy must have locked poor Lack up in a broom cupboard with a PC, some bread and water and stern instructions to keep programming. Ever wondered why you can't pm lack anymore? Or why he never writes in GD? CC had a cultural revolution of its very own under the jackboot of our admins. They took control, purged the intelligencia (and left you proles glorying in your own mediocrity as a result) and now you sit happy as pigs in the proverbial shit. No doubt you feel oh so empowered with that report a post button they let you play with.

[Woodruff]

Listen people, I know you don't like what I have to say because I have some extremely good points.

Confidence is a good thing. But like all good things, it can be carried too far. <smile>

I'll tell you this, no one has come to my 'defence' because they're too scared to be oppressed by Team CC

That's quite a presumption, given some of the individuals participating in this thread, to be honest.

I have no problems speaking my mind and even being bold about it. If I don't like something and I'm paying for it, I have EVERY right to speak my mind - simple as that.

That's absolutely true, and I support that. But in doing so, you must accept it just as much when someone disagrees with you, as they also have that right.

Oh, and respect works both ways, Owenator.

[Woodruff]

Interestingly, owen's isolation here (at least until I noticed the thread) is due to the fact that Andy has booted almost every dissenting voice over the last 6 months. Those that are left are either refusing to post (the BpB stable is pretty much given up with GD as an example), can't be bothered to post or are painfully aware that one slip will be pounced upon by the admins.

So I'm not a dissenting voice? Really? That's certainly not to say that I don't generally agree with the admins/mods because I do...but I'm certainly not one to "not speak my mind".

The lack of support for owen here merely means you narrow-minded sods have pretty much won. You've reported us out of the game.

Or perhaps, oddly enough, that he's wrong? Kotaro DID deserve his website ban, plain and simple.

[jpcloet]

You are still avoiding providing any real examples. At this point you are just ranting. You want to call out lack for being cowardice, yet you can't even provide some basic examples. Step up to the plate. You haven't even stated what you are asking for. Is is a change in process? Did you submit an e-ticket that was ignored. Back your claims up with some real facts and examples.

I took time away from clan ladder work and map making yesterday to give you my full attention and you did not leverage it. Don't say we are not listening.

Instead of a rant, you could have started a thread asking if 6 months was too long. Maybe even run a poll with 1 week, 2 weeks, 1 month, 2 months, 3 months, 6 months. I find the majority of complainers fail to go about making changes in a positive way. I actually liked the black-avatar-sig campaign for DM, yet Owen, who deserves a campaign more than anyone on the list above, has not received anything from his crew and loyal fan base.

I've seen lots of change here this year and for 25$ it only adds more value.

[owenator]

If you wish to take your money elsewhere Owenator, feel free to do so.

Congrats to JP for understanding a free market economy. I think that this is 100% the correct attitude to have. Some people disagree with the rules, their enforcement, and the fairness in which they are enforced, and I agree that the rule system isn't perfect. However, you can't say that this site hasn't improved in the past few months.

Recently, we've see the freestyle fix, the birth of manual deployment, Whac-a-Mod 2, and 3 new sets of medals. The site IS improving, just not in the way you would like. Steps have been taken to entice you into spending $25 a year for premium, but if you aren't happy, you have the freedom to spend your money elsewhere. I don't think that there is anything wrong with a moderator pointing this out.

And some people kiss ass better than JOHNNYROCKET24 - congratulations, you win a medal for having your lips firmly secured on their (admin/mods) butts. Listen, I heard it the first time, I don't need to hear it a second time. Listen people, I know you don't like what I have to say because I have some extremely good points. I'll tell you this, no one has come to my 'defence' because they're too scared to be oppressed by Team CC and I have no problems speaking my mind and even being bold about it. If I don't like something and I'm paying for it, I have EVERY right to speak my mind - simple as that. And all these idiots are complaining or saying that I'm being negative, or asking me to provide examples, etc. Again, why is my original point of how there is no explanation as to what happens when a complaint about an admin/mod is issued? It has been avoided multiple times. All they ask for is an example, yet what does that prove? It proves that if I have something valid to provide that they will come up with some bullshit answer and or re-word their justification on their decision. Listen, please take the time to read my points. Please take the time to respect my opinions. PLEASE don't repeat what has already been said or it proves what an idiot you are.

UM,

you don't like something AND you are paying for it

.......you are contradicting yourself. That doesn't make sense, not once have I gone to a restaurant where I didn't like the food or service and then return to give them another chance. The point is you have the choice, why would you CHOOSE to pay for something you don't like? There are other sites. There are other ways to spend your money. If you want to be a martyr that is one thing, if you just want to create conflict for the sake of it, that is another thing and/or if you are just looking for attention that is fine too (to each his own I say) but, admit your platform is a shallowly disguised attempt at being argumentative, self serving or at the very least contradictory to your own actions. Your opinions are not disrespected, in fact they have been discussed/argued thoughtfully by those who responded for what they are....opinions. Bottom line is you are not a mod. You do not have any control over the systems and procedures CC uses to discipline users who break the RULES. You are a user who chose to pay to belong to a for profit website that you do not own. Those procedures are in place to protect a larger community and give the site a recognized structure for all of us to follow so our experience here won't be ruined by someone who wants to cheat or flame or bait etc..... The rules are clearly posted, to gain access to this site one must accept and agree to them AS WRITTEN. If you want to change them do something constructive, become a mod or start a constructive thread. Passive-aggressive posting wont help get your point across and it never will.

to quote what I've previously written:

I've been told a million times about their refund policy.

I understand the rules, and policies. Trust me, I get that. You've proven to me that you are an eloquent writer and that you've crossed your T's and dotted your I's. However, what you've done is simply reworded what others have already voiced upon. I get it, if I don't like it - simply leave. Again, I'm not going to reiterate what I've made in terms of what I think is unfair, nor what I've brought to the attention to *challenge* Team CC. Andy, I read what you said but you know what, there are some people who are idiots and deservedly should be called such: Thrillomania - listen, if you have something to say, say it. Don't troll/spam if you don't have anything relevant to say. This is not the first time he's done that either. Getting back on point, I've said what I needed to say. Mr. Changsha's post may be referring to my multi (just kidding) owenshooter...but, our opinions are the same. Woodruff, I'll be the first to admit fault/wrong if I feel that I was completely mistaken, but never has anyone said that I have been dishonourable or disrespectful. I absolutely appreciate people's opinions and they have a right to do so. But, when all I see is the same thing posted over and over again by a different member - it grows tiresome and hence my reasoning to "defend" myself (if you will). JP, okay here's an example - I've complained that Evil Semp was intentionally baiting me, egging me on. Even to the point where he was being condescending towards me in recent times. I believe this was in defence of owenshooter (I could be wrong). I complained that he was trolling/spamming/baiting me, and I asked him to stop. Did he? No. He posted something else to basically egg me yet again, and it could be defined as a mocking attitude or to get the "last word" in. I submitted a complaint against him. Again, what was done? No one knows. How do can we know that Team CC is accountable for THEIR actions when they are not making it enjoyable for other members. When perhaps they may have personal vendetta's or issues against a member. There, I gave you an example. I'd love to hear what you have to say about that now.

[jpcloet]

My understanding is that being condescending, is not a punishable offense. I see 2 threads (both Owenshooter based) where you 2 have had disagreements. I don't really see any baiting going on, and going through 10-20 pages of Semp's posts, most are quite quick and to the point. I don't see any real issues there. If you want to pm Andy, go ahead, but this rant was not needed.

I can guarantee you that Andy and Optimus hold us accountable. You can't see it nor am I allowed to show you. You're going to have to take my word. I can tell you that I've personally received some strongly worded pm's as to my posts/behavior. Add a couple of peer Messenger notes to that, and we do hold each other accountable. And I don't pm lack unless pm'd to.

[Woodruff]

Woodruff, I'll be the first to admit fault/wrong if I feel that I was completely mistaken, but never has anyone said that I have been dishonourable or disrespectful. I absolutely appreciate people's opinions and they have a right to do so. But, when all I see is the same thing posted over and over again by a different member - it grows tiresome and hence my reasoning to "defend" myself (if you will).

I definitely understand your frustration...but I don't believe you think that calling people idiots or accusing them of "just kissing the moderator's asses" over and over is respectful. I certainly don't.

JP, okay here's an example - I've complained that Evil Semp was intentionally baiting me, egging me on. Even to the point where he was being condescending towards me in recent times. I believe this was in defence of owenshooter (I could be wrong).

I think you're right about which thread it was (I think), but I very much remember that thread and I did not AT ALL think that Evil Semp was baiting you in any way, nor did I feel he was being condescending. At least if I'm remembering the right thread (I said so in the thread, whichever one it was).

Again, I agree with you regarding the inconsistency with which the rules are enforced, and I have a HUGE problem with it (it's why I'm still a freemium, in fact). But I think you're allowing your frustration to sabotage your own good arguments.

[AndyDufresne]

Well I for one always try to add a bit of colour to my rants..I think everyone is happier that way.

However, in your case I have to hold my pen. I know full well that if I launch on you or any other moderator/admin I am liable to get a ban, especially if I mock you. Of course you bait someone like me to do so, knowing full well that you'll report my post and get me banned...again.

Clever stuff.

Right, we are all out to get everyone, especially you Mr Changsha. This isn't an Off Topic conspiracy thread.

Interestingly, owen's isolation here (at least until I noticed the thread) is due to the fact that Andy has booted almost every dissenting voice over the last 6 months. Those that are left are either refusing to post (the BpB stable is pretty much given up with GD as an example), can't be bothered to post or are painfully aware that one slip will be pounced upon by the admins.

Ever wondered why jiminski doesn't post anymore? Absolutely wonderful writer who spent months arguing for the freedom to express. He gave up. Fruitcake gave up. I've basically given up but decided to come back and insult you all again. It makes me feel better. Never mind those that have just been banned outright: TOM, owenshooter, DM, General Stoneham, Jeff Hardy and others.

We're here to have fun. A community is an evolving project. Whenever someone leaves, someone takes their place. Your claim about "booting every dissenting voice" doesn't hold much merit, and seems to show that you want to be inflammatory and exaggeratory, "drumming up the masses." Sometimes the presence of absence, especially in regards to support, is more telling than not.

The lack of support for owen here merely means you narrow-minded sods have pretty much won. You've reported us out of the game.

Jolly good.

Again, I brought this point up earlier in my post to owenator: so everyone who disagrees with you narrow-minded? They are lambs to Team CC shepherds? I find this hard to believe, and actually quite narrow-minded, to use your word. Pigeon-holing all those who disagree with you as "narrow-minded" only hurts your position---making you seem more like a someone yelling on the street about conspiracies and personal hurt, than someone who is posting for the good of the community.

Final thought: I realised a while ago that Andy must have locked poor Lack up in a broom cupboard with a PC, some bread and water and stern instructions to keep programming. Ever wondered why you can't pm lack anymore? Or why he never writes in GD? CC had a cultural revolution of its very own under the jackboot of our admins. They took control, purged the intelligencia (and left you proles glorying in your own mediocrity as a result) and now you sit happy as pigs in the proverbial shit. No doubt you feel oh so empowered with that report a post button they let you play with.

Again, inflammatory and exaggeratory posting. And really, your insinuation that you and some of those others who have broken the rules are the "intelligencia" -- making everyone else "proles" -- continues to show that it seems like you really are not doing any of this for the good the community, and this is more about personal vendettas.

If you want to work out personal vendettas, lets not call the community dumb, because it isn't, and you know it.

If you want to work out personal vendettas, lets take it up in some games, since this is a World Domination website after all.


--Andy

[L M S]

I would suggest to you that instead of generalizing your frustration---a more acute approach , targeting a specific problem to be solved is your answer. Calling out all mods as idiots and things of that nature turns your argument (and quite possibly valid concern) into a witch hunt that exacerbates the defensive posture naturally taken by those you are questioning. An "Us against them" mentality will not prove fruitful to your cause. The mods are not against us as a community. The community is not against the mods. The administration is the "group" of people who least want to upset the people who pay their bills. If your concerns have been delineated to the proper people, through the proper channels, in the proper order and still, your questions aren't answered then there is a problem. However, if you go straight to Lack, for example, and are not satisfied with the result, perhaps you should consider using the chain of command, as it were, to voice your opinion...(similarly posting in the GD to get a swell of ground support for your cause is not only ineffective but is considered by me to be a cheap shot and frankly, childish)...this is how every business in the world works, and make no mistake this is a business. I am asking you to look at your post and decide, unemotionally, if your argument actually poses a valid, community wide concern or if it is a rant by an irritated member who is unsatisfied with a result handed down by group of people responsible for using the procedures, rules and systems given to them as a reference to guide them to a disciplinary decision that needed to be made. Perhaps your opinion is that the rules, systems and procedures need to be adjusted...I for one,think they work just fine and are more than adequate to address the needs of our CC Community....I also think that if the mods or the administration had to quantify, qualify and justify every move and decision they made regarding every individuals concern to the entire community.........hmmm, well that is just ridiculous to even consider.

[Chariot of Fire]

If you're going to apply the word 'intelligentsia' to yourself at least have the good sense to know how it's spelled

I like Mr Changsha though; his posts never fail to entertain - always well-crafted and never short of wit. A smart chap.

[neanderpaul14]

If you're going to apply the word 'intelligentsia' to yourself at least have the good sense to know how it's spelled

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

If you wish to take your money elsewhere Owenator, feel free to do so.

Congrats to JP for understanding a free market economy. I think that this is 100% the correct attitude to have. Some people disagree with the rules, their enforcement, and the fairness in which they are enforced, and I agree that the rule system isn't perfect. However, you can't say that this site hasn't improved in the past few months.

Recently, we've see the freestyle fix, the birth of manual deployment, Whac-a-Mod 2, and 3 new sets of medals. The site IS improving, just not in the way you would like. Steps have been taken to entice you into spending $25 a year for premium, but if you aren't happy, you have the freedom to spend your money elsewhere. I don't think that there is anything wrong with a moderator pointing this out.

And some people kiss ass better than JOHNNYROCKET24 - congratulations, you win a medal for having your lips firmly secured on their (admin/mods) butts. Listen, I heard it the first time, I don't need to hear it a second time. Listen people, I know you don't like what I have to say because I have some extremely good points. I'll tell you this, no one has come to my 'defence' because they're too scared to be oppressed by Team CC and I have no problems speaking my mind and even being bold about it. If I don't like something and I'm paying for it, I have EVERY right to speak my mind - simple as that. And all these idiots are complaining or saying that I'm being negative, or asking me to provide examples, etc. Again, why is my original point of how there is no explanation as to what happens when a complaint about an admin/mod is issued? It has been avoided multiple times. All they ask for is an example, yet what does that prove? It proves that if I have something valid to provide that they will come up with some bullshit answer and or re-word their justification on their decision. Listen, please take the time to read my points. Please take the time to respect my opinions. PLEASE don't repeat what has already been said or it proves what an idiot you are.

again.....What issue? You keep bad mouthing mods and still not provided one example of mod issues. Its not being avoided. Your not stating what needs to be examined.

[pimphawks70]

They ban one Owen and another rises to take his place

[notyou2]

What really bothers me here is that the people that speak out with the idea of improvement to the site are pounced upon, but the people that defend the mods/admins by insults and name calling (rule violations) are ignored by the mods/admins.

Look at any thread of dissension and you will find the examples I am speaking of including this thread.

Owen is right.

[AndyDufresne]

What really bothers me here is that the people that speak out with the idea of improvement to the site are pounced upon, but the people that defend the mods/admins by insults and name calling (rule violations) are ignored by the mods/admins.

Look at any thread of dissension and you will find the examples I am speaking of including this thread.

Owen is right.

I am all for suggestions and improvement to the website. I wouldn't frequent the Suggestions forum as much as I do, or read the General Discussion if I didn't. But calling the community "idiots/proles/pejoratives" does not seem like those who are suggesting improvements for the community, actually mean it.


--Andy

[Mr Changsha]

If you're going to apply the word 'intelligentsia' to yourself at least have the good sense to know how it's spelled

I like Mr Changsha though; his posts never fail to entertain - always well-crafted and never short of wit. A smart chap.

You know I looked at it and thought it seemed an odd way to spell the word. I was completely confident I was right of course...

Thanks for the compliment, but I find GD is making me slightly unhinged. I become a raving, foaming, lunatic (not that I'm wrong mind you!) once I enter this place.

Within two days I'm arguing with about three different chaps. That can't be good.

Back to the games I feel, though I'll keep an eye on the threads as always.

[Snorri1234]

It is absolutely tiresome how rampant the forum/web bans are coming down on players. Particularly on players that are vocal in the community such as: owenshooter, Kotaro, and in the past: t-o-m, Dancing Mustard. I challenge lackattack IF he has the fucking balls to defend himself and if he really values the so-called bullshit "warm and fuzzy feeling" support for PAYING members as to how he can justify these illogical decisions/judgments. Come on! Really? You expect these early 20 year old's or 50-60 year old's who are grumpy or are geeks with no ability in real life to be sociable to represent your site? Lack, not once have I seen you get involved when your paying members aka customers are pissed off. I've been adamant and upfront as to how unhappy I am with this site but no one seems to give 2 fucks that I am not satisfied. Let me ask you this, if one person got pissed off and had the influence to convince 10 others not to renew and then thereby spread the word, and so on, and so on....wouldn't there be concern? Lack, you are making 100% profit from this site, why aren't you concerned? You can be generating so much more profit if you cared about what your vocal member let alone, paying members had to say. The recent ban of Kotaro, is total bullshit. Kottie was not happy - bottom line. I can agree that he may not get along with many, but he speaks his mind and simply put, people don't like his upfront attitude. The same can be said of me....I'm just more 'diplomatic' - if you will. Again, I challenge lack to defend himself or is he going to cower behind his group of admins/mods like he always does?

Waiting for your ban....

[safariguy5]

Here's the main thing I think some people fail to realize. The forum (for those of us who wander into here) is separate from the actual games. There's fundamental difference between what happened to Kotaro and owenshooter. To the best of my knowledge, owen has not allowed what happened to him in the forum spill over to how he plays his games. I've played against Kotaro and he's been courteous and a smart player. While what happened to him in the forum may or may not be justified, his great mistake was to allow it to spill into his games. You cannot allow anger to overrule fair play in games. That's why owen will be back in a few months and Kotaro may never be back.

[Woodruff]

Within two days I'm arguing with about three different chaps. That can't be good.

Only three? Most of the time, it feels like I'm arguing with everyone (all threads taken into account).