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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Lindax on Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:34 pm

Timminz wrote:I have played 6, without a miss, and with a bit more coffee, I could probably push it to 7.


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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Mageplunka on Tue Jun 29, 2010 8:17 pm

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Mageplunka wrote:like cuttin off my nuts and takin away my joy


Then you understand our process completely. Lack said, "I want to cut off somebody's nuts and take away their joy," and then Clapper responded, "How about Mageplunka?" Then this happened. My recommendation is that when you next play 10 speed games at the same time, don't enjoy a single one of them.

lmao, i did enjoy my games today, i went from corporal to major, it is not about the fun, it is the principle. i would be in agreement to 15 games, i like to set up 20 speed doodles , and 10 or so assorted speed games, i keep people entertained, and keep people playing speed games. i may also help yeti keep his paycheck,,,haha.....i just think 10 is a little small , but i do understand why.....as far as the point dumpers and multis, i do not think that will stop them, and like i said before, i was a multi and cheater, and i admit that , like i admitted it before. i went to cc school for cheaters and now i am reformed, i have no choice either. 10 people could start 10 speed games, and have 8-9 players waiting till a game ends, so there are ways around this as well. but that is not what you want to know...there is ALWAYS ways around .but i will TRY this. i would rather see some of the stupid games removed, and there are alot of them, to speed up the server, and let us have our fun and addiction needs met....this is not what we paid for, but we will do as you say
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby karelpietertje on Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:44 pm

I used to make like 12 1v1 games on twelve different maps.
Sometimes, very funny people would join about 6 of them, and I'd still beat them 6/6 :lol:
It does take some coordination which I'm not always perfect at though :P

Anyway, recently I would only make 10 different maps, which explains why I haven't noticed anything. It should still be undone though.

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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Caymanmew on Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:00 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:If 10 seems like too few, we can always revisit it in the future. Give 10 Speed Game limit some time. :) In any case though, I think the limit is a good step in the right direction---making it more difficult for people to manipulate the Scoreboard, their account, and other knowing or unknowing users, at least in this specific way.


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i was think i might try 50 1-1 one day soon
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Commander62890 on Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:23 pm

I will never have a problem will this, but I can see where it would be a problem for some people. Assdoodles take a while to fill, and are best set up in big bunches. If you're an Assdoodler, you can easily have at least 15 games active and waiting, combined.

Personally, I would like to see the cut-off somewhere around 15. When I was going for medals, I often had 4 or 5 games active and 7-8 assdoodles waiting to fill.

And, of course, we need to accomodate KP's farming tactics :lol:

Of course, since it doesn't affect me anymore, I don't see a problem in trying out the 10-game limit and seeing if there's a lot of opposition. In the end, though, 15 should probably be the limit. 15 will still hurt people like Mageplunka, but to a lesser extent than 10 will. However, with the 15-game limit, others will be able to create games to their satisfaction, while they would be limited by the 10-game restriction.

Then, there is the issue of the main reason why this restriction was made; point dumping. Personally, I think that accomodating our premium members (at least to this extent) is more important than deterring the actions of cheaters. Obviously, a restriction must be made, but I say it should be 15 and not 10. Others may say 20; some may say 5. This is just my opinion.

Oh, and sorry about posting this here... I know, I know, I should've seen the thread in Suggestions! :roll: ;)
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby HighlanderAttack on Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:21 am

Totally acceptable

10 speed games is plenty
Even with the assassin players--most assassin games are over before more than three start at the same time so it should not effect the assassin players


Personally I will play a max of 7 speed games on arms race sometimes--not very often


Definitely makes it harder to point dump--but may also make it harder to spot.
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby karelpietertje on Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:04 am

I would like to see the bar raised to 15.
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby LFAW on Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:51 pm

I could probably play 15 sequentials at once (I played 22 doodle 1v1s in one go without missing any turns once :P)
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Mageplunka on Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:26 pm

i think 15 are good as well. and as a ASS doodler, i would set up 20-25, and they could take up to a few hours for anyone to play, but yes , sometimes when they do start a run, they come fast
I think a vote is in place.....all for 15 say AYY
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:13 pm

THORNHEART wrote:SO OBVIOUSLY THEN SOMEONE NEEDS TO CHANGE THIS

PRETTY DAMN WELL SURE THAT SAYS UNLIMITED SIMULTANEOUS GAMES

AND I doubt anyone feels WARM and FUZZY about CC anymore...they just pay to keep supporting their addiction.


This change in no way stops you from playing unlimited simultaneous games. It only means that no more than 10 of them can be speed games, but you can still have as many going as you like in general. So nothing about that page is wrong.

I still feel warm and fuzzy about CC - it's a great place to have fun and I really appreciate that the mods and lack have put in all this time to keep the site going. While the addiction part is definitely true, I can at least say for myself that I know it's in no way easy to run a site like this, so I don't just blindly think that the mods are out to get us. They wouldn't keep this site running if they didn't enjoy it, and if they weren't out to let people have fun.

If this change helps prevent abuse of players, I don't see why we wouldn't support it, especially when there are no compelling reasons for anyone to want to play more than 10 games at once. Sure, it would be ideal if we could let people do whatever they wanted, but the fact is that there's a clear negative to not having a limit, and no clear positives.
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Queen_Herpes on Wed Jun 30, 2010 11:27 pm

ManBungalow wrote:Just as a point of interest - back when I was up at General and wanted to drop a rank, I set up a bunch of Doodle Earth 1 vs 1 speeders. Before long, I was playing 20 simultaneous speed games. I didn't miss a single turn and won roughly 50% of the games. True story.

Although I do support the game limit, it maybe should be raised to 15.


Hi, are you a moderator that is admitting to point dumping? I haven't been here long enough and I'm not very smart, but isn't "wanting to drop a rank" equivalent to point dumping?
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby edwinissweet on Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:11 am

Queen_Herpes wrote:
ManBungalow wrote:Just as a point of interest - back when I was up at General and wanted to drop a rank, I set up a bunch of Doodle Earth 1 vs 1 speeders. Before long, I was playing 20 simultaneous speed games. I didn't miss a single turn and won roughly 50% of the games. True story.

Although I do support the game limit, it maybe should be raised to 15.


Hi, are you a moderator that is admitting to point dumping? I haven't been here long enough and I'm not very smart, but isn't "wanting to drop a rank" equivalent to point dumping?



You are the second person within this thread to point this out, and i will serve as the second person to clearify that its not point dumping when you are playing to win every game. Its not a against the rules.
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby TheForgivenOne on Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:27 am

Directed at Queen.

Bruceswar wrote:He said nothing about point dumping. He was just merely playing for fun game that he knew were not good for his rank. He played to win every game. Point dumpers do not do that.
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Queen_Herpes on Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:06 pm

TheForgivenOne wrote:Directed at Queen.

Bruceswar wrote:He said nothing about point dumping. He was just merely playing for fun game that he knew were not good for his rank. He played to win every game. Point dumpers do not do that.


I cannot get past the phrase "wanted to drop a rank" because it is incongruous with "playing to win."
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby THORNHEART on Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:37 pm

do you really think the mods are going to condemn another mod queen herpes....sigh... :roll:
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:54 pm

THORNHEART wrote:do you really think the mods are going to condemn another mod queen herpes....sigh... :roll:

Mods 4 Lifez, chill home-fry.


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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby jefjef on Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:58 pm

edwinissweet wrote:
Queen_Herpes wrote:
ManBungalow wrote:Just as a point of interest - back when I was up at General and wanted to drop a rank, I set up a bunch of Doodle Earth 1 vs 1 speeders. Before long, I was playing 20 simultaneous speed games. I didn't miss a single turn and won roughly 50% of the games. True story.

Although I do support the game limit, it maybe should be raised to 15.


Hi, are you a moderator that is admitting to point dumping? I haven't been here long enough and I'm not very smart, but isn't "wanting to drop a rank" equivalent to point dumping?



You are the second person within this thread to point this out, and i will serve as the second person to clearify that its not point dumping when you are playing to win every game. Its not a against the rules.


I will point out and hi light what was exactly said. It does not say what your twisting it to say.
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Commander62890 on Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:01 pm

To make it very obvious, when you're at a very high rank (General), and you proceed to win 50% of 1v1 speed games, you will drop rank at an insane rate.

As long as you are trying to win, it isn't cheating. Meanwhile, we can still call it "dropping rank."



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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby jefjef on Thu Jul 01, 2010 3:19 pm

Commander62890 wrote:To make it very obvious, when you're at a very high rank (General), and you proceed to win 50% of 1v1 speed games, you will drop rank at an insane rate.

As long as you are trying to win, it isn't cheating. Meanwhile, we can still call it "dropping rank."


Yes it's referred to as "dropping rank" by some. But not WANTING to drop rank. Get it?

Ok. We will leave it as a poorly worded funny ha-ha. :D

But anyway I think 10 limit is more than enough.
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Re: Error You cannot play more than 10 speed games at a tim

Postby Pedronicus on Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:31 am

Mageplunka wrote:i had 16 doodles and i did not miss any turns either


I've quoted Mag, but it could of been any person bragging about how many speed games they are able to play at once.

you may be able to play these 10, 15 or 20 games at a time, but for other players waiting for 4 or 5 minutes for you to take your turn, it's annoying.

the 4 or 5 minutes you get for a taking a turn should only really take that long if you are in the process of an elimination
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abuse of power and false advertising!!

Postby KING KONQUER on Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:09 am

People sign up to this site and have limited extra's you get with payment....1 is unlimited games which is the main attraction..the next is speed games....and this was unlimited until a few days ago as far as i know...not sure why this has been instated but is not what paying users have been promised at point of payment...this is disturbing....what is the next premium membership option to go??? this seems a useless change.. what can be the advantage of doing this?????
this is amazingly ridiculous now.....i payed and signed up with full expectations to use this site as i always have played 30 -50 speed games at a time and many, many others do as well.....i dont care who has time to look at what.....there are many players that do this. join 15 speed assasins and are actually playing in another active 10..games.....thats how those game fill..WITHOUT being able to create and join many games they will be very slow start and keep them going.....therefore this not what i paid for!!!! I REPEAT AGAIN....WHEN I PAYED I WAS ABLE TO PLAY UNLIMITED SPEED GAMES.......I ALWAYS PLAY 30-40 games at a time and I DO that WITH many others......SO UNLESS YOUR AN OCTOPUS OR SOMETHING...YOU CANT COUNT THE CC PLAYERS THAT PLAY MANY SPEED GAMES AT ONCE.....JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE THINKS THAT THEY CANT DO SOMETHING, DONT ASSUME OTHERS ARENT ABLE TO.......THIS IS RIDICULOUS....WE WERE NOT WARNED ABOUT ANY CHANGES THAT COULD CUT BACK FROM OUR PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP...AND THIS SITE IS NOW NOT CHEATING OTHERS..BUT NOW IT IS STEALING.....THE CONTRACT AGREED TO DOESNT STATE ANYWHERE THAT THE 3 THINGS YOU GET FROM PAYING FOR PREMIUM MIGHT BE CUT....
I MEAN YOU GET UNLIMITED GAMES...AND SPEED GAMES...AND A COLORED ICON.... REALLY WHAT AM I PAYING FOR....MY MAIN USE OF THIS SITE HAS BEEN TERMINATED WITHOUT REASON...AND THIS MUST BE LOOKED AT.....AND IF CC WONT...AN OUTSIDE PARTY, THIRD PARTY MUST GET INVOLVED IN THIS FALSE ADVERTISING, CONTRACT BREAKING, THIEVES.......YOU SHOULD BE ADDING TO PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP CAPABILITIES NOT TAKING AWAY...THIS IS RIDICULOUS.....AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY
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abuse of power and false advertising!

Postby KING KONQUER on Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:10 am

People sign up to this site and have limited extra's you get with payment....1 is unlimited games which is the main attraction..the next is speed games....and this was unlimited until a few days ago as far as i know...not sure why this has been instated but is not what paying users have been promised at point of payment...this is disturbing....what is the next premium membership option to go??? this seems a useless change.. what can be the advantage of doing this?????
this is amazingly ridiculous now.....i payed and signed up with full expectations to use this site as i always have played 30 -50 speed games at a time and many, many others do as well.....i dont care who has time to look at what.....there are many players that do this. join 15 speed assasins and are actually playing in another active 10..games.....thats how those game fill..WITHOUT being able to create and join many games they will be very slow start and keep them going.....therefore this not what i paid for!!!! I REPEAT AGAIN....WHEN I PAYED I WAS ABLE TO PLAY UNLIMITED SPEED GAMES.......I ALWAYS PLAY 30-40 games at a time and I DO that WITH many others......SO UNLESS YOUR AN OCTOPUS OR SOMETHING...YOU CANT COUNT THE CC PLAYERS THAT PLAY MANY SPEED GAMES AT ONCE.....JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE THINKS THAT THEY CANT DO SOMETHING, DONT ASSUME OTHERS ARENT ABLE TO.......THIS IS RIDICULOUS....WE WERE NOT WARNED ABOUT ANY CHANGES THAT COULD CUT BACK FROM OUR PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP...AND THIS SITE IS NOW NOT CHEATING OTHERS..BUT NOW IT IS STEALING.....THE CONTRACT AGREED TO DOESNT STATE ANYWHERE THAT THE 3 THINGS YOU GET FROM PAYING FOR PREMIUM MIGHT BE CUT....
I MEAN YOU GET UNLIMITED GAMES...AND SPEED GAMES...AND A COLORED ICON.... REALLY WHAT AM I PAYING FOR....MY MAIN USE OF THIS SITE HAS BEEN TERMINATED WITHOUT REASON...AND THIS MUST BE LOOKED AT.....AND IF CC WONT...AN OUTSIDE PARTY, THIRD PARTY MUST GET INVOLVED IN THIS FALSE ADVERTISING, CONTRACT BREAKING, THIEVES.......YOU SHOULD BE ADDING TO PREMIUM MEMBERSHIP CAPABILITIES NOT TAKING AWAY...THIS IS RIDICULOUS.....AND NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY
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Re: abuse of power and false advertising!

Postby obliterationX on Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:12 am

Dude, you should consider using more ellipses.
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Re: abuse of power and false advertising!

Postby jpcloet on Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:57 am

* Play UNLIMITED simultaneous games
* Play thrilling real-time SPEED games

You are still allowed to play unlimited games
You are still allowed to play SPEED games

I do not see where it tells you, that you can play UNLIMITED SPEED games. Seems like a technicality, but CC has not violated the terms of service based on the above notes.
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Re: abuse of power and false advertising!

Postby alex951 on Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:03 am

jpcloet wrote:* Play UNLIMITED simultaneous games
* Play thrilling real-time SPEED games

You are still allowed to play unlimited games
You are still allowed to play SPEED games

I do not see where it tells you, that you can play UNLIMITED SPEED games. Seems like a technicality, but CC has not violated the terms of service based on the above notes
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