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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby Gabriel13 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:58 am

betiko wrote:
Gabriel13 wrote:Just wanna point something out.. I don't think Hannibal 19's dice stats are even correct. He's played only 2000 less games than I have, but his total dice is this:
1:20168 2:20751 3:20745 4:20810 5:21086 6:20789

While mine is this:
1:314885 2:322400 3:320651 4:322097 5:320932 6:320294


maybe he doesn t play escalating as often as you do; or maybe he doesn't play as many multi player games as you do, or maybe he only plays on smaller maps. I don't see why you expect the amount of dice rolls to be proportionate to the number of game played given all the different settings/game scenarios out there. You can end up rolling 10 000+ dice in a single game, or more.


It doesn't matter though. He shouldn't have 1.8 million less rolls than I do. That's ridiculous.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby greenoaks on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:02 am

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betiko wrote:Futt, i know you have me foed because i beat you too often. The truth is that you suck terribly. I ve had the missfortune to team with you in a speed dubs, and you play like shit blaming it on the dice all the time and not even reading my recomendations to discuss your turns. I don t know how the hell can people let you advise others when you are such a terrible player and in the top 5 sore losers of the site. Go play candy crush.


You've beaten me far too often in my prime settings. The odds for a win may be like 50/50 but you completely destroy me every time. There are "a handful players" I can't beat no matter. No need even play them; no need try.

babagonosh was like that for me in tournaments. beating him was almost as good as winning the entire tournament.


really? just checked and I'm 12-6 vs baba, almost all tournament games. he's always been a very classy opponent, I wouldn't imagine him doing stuff like that.

no, i was referring to the "There are "a handful players" I can't beat no matter".

he was my kryptonite, yet i miss the challenge of beating him.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby frankiebee on Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:24 am

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Fruitcake wrote:This has nothing to do with The SoC. You're a complete ignorant when it comes to The SoC and the job they do. The SoC is a official cc social group. Does no more harm than any social group or any clan or player. The SoC are suppose to teach the basics but The SoC students get much more than the basics. You don't have to be the best to teach others. You need to know the basics and you need to be willing to teach and to help others.

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Basic rule #1: The dice are a bitch, if you keep losing because of the dice, play other settings or take less risks. If you post a dice bitch thread on the forums howhever. admin will give you a 1-month penalty which causes your dice to throw 10% more 1's and 2's.

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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:05 am

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lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:This has nothing to do with The SoC. You're a complete ignorant when it comes to The SoC and the job they do. The SoC is a official cc social group. Does no more harm than any social group or any clan or player. The SoC are suppose to teach the basics but The SoC students get much more than the basics. You don't have to be the best to teach others. You need to know the basics and you need to be willing to teach and to help others.

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Basic rule #1: The dice are a bitch, if you keep losing because of the dice, play other settings or take less risks. If you post a dice bitch thread on the forums howhever. admin will give you a 1-month penalty which causes your dice to throw 10% more 1's and 2's.

I would be a great teacher...


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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby BoganGod on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:12 am

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Those that can't, teach.
Those that can't teach, teach the teachers.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby lt.Futt on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:13 am

Fruitcake wrote:I am unable to see where I have attacked the SoC. I was merely making the observation that you have something of a belligerent attitude that seems to get worse if somebody disagrees with you, or criticises you in any way.

You are, of course, welcome to your opinions as we all are.


You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.

The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:20 am

lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:I am unable to see where I have attacked the SoC. I was merely making the observation that you have something of a belligerent attitude that seems to get worse if somebody disagrees with you, or criticises you in any way.

You are, of course, welcome to your opinions as we all are.


You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.

The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations.


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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby rhp 1 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:32 am

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frankiebee wrote:Your a SOC training adviser...

I wonder what your best advises are... if you lose, blame it on the dice? :roll:


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I've posted 3 games in just 24 hours. Calm down.

If I told you I played a total of 25 games and was second in order in 22. Would you still laugh? What about being second in order in 30 out of 36 games in a row? Different setting though but still.



No, I wouldn't laugh... but what I would I say is you, being a human, will pay much closer attention to when things go poorly (drops, first turns, dice, etc) than you do when things go your way... when you get "extreme" (as you put it) whatever in YOUR favor, I doubt you would mentally note such things, much less start a thread on how great your extreme luck was... I'm not disputing what you've posted here, my simple point is you posted it, because it appears (objectively if taken out of overall context) that you got hosed... problem is, I'm fairly certain you've had similar positive results in your favor that you mostly likely have taken in a very matter of fact manner... you're only argument against this is, CC has somehow targeted you and a few others who post threads such as this, and have left others relatively unscathed. I find that position hard to believe...
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:36 am

lt.Futt wrote:You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.


Yes but where did I mention the SoC? I was merely referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. They all carried, at one level or another, the very arrogance you so succinctly show in your next statement.

lt.Futt wrote:The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations..


Your humility deficit, for one so obviously average in skill, is breathtaking....and a little amusing. Thank you for being such a great court jester.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby lt.Futt on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:50 am

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lt.Futt wrote:You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.


Yes but where did I mention the SoC? I was merely referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. They all carried, at one level or another, the very arrogance you so succinctly show in your next statement.

lt.Futt wrote:The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations..


Your humility deficit, for one so obviously average in skill, is breathtaking....and a little amusing. Thank you for being such a great court jester.


You're one of a kind. Aren't you? referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. Well, I don't believe you at all. In my oppinion you're a top notch clown.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby Shannon Apple on Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:05 am

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betiko wrote:Futt, i know you have me foed because i beat you too often. The truth is that you suck terribly. I ve had the missfortune to team with you in a speed dubs, and you play like shit blaming it on the dice all the time and not even reading my recomendations to discuss your turns. I don t know how the hell can people let you advise others when you are such a terrible player and in the top 5 sore losers of the site. Go play candy crush.


You've beaten me far too often in my prime settings. The odds for a win may be like 50/50 but you completely destroy me every time. There are "a handful players" I can't beat no matter. No need even play them; no need try. However you had insults against me. That's personal and foe. I don't bother people that attack others personally. We have different qualities.

Everybody gets good and bad dice. There are moments when you can blame a loss on dice, but it's useless to whine about it. Other times it's coupled with one bad move by yourself. I can admit to making a mistake here and there that cost me a game, but you can't win them all. You have a handful of players that you can beat no matter what? Then they just aren't that good. Sorry, but you being a teacher should know that you never stop learning and that there is always room to improve on strategy. You may have a set strategy, but if someone has also learned that, they will know how to counter it. If you're so good at one particular map, you should know how to counter good dice. Spreading yourself thin is not how you do that. I've checked the game logs and while your opponent may have had some luck, you have to blame some of it on your own mistakes. You're not perfect, no one is. Don't expect to come out with perfect scores on a map. Foeing people who beat you is pretty extreme. I've done it in the case of a cook that I KNOW point dumped to get there, but holy shit. lol.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby Fruitcake on Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:37 am

lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.


Yes but where did I mention the SoC? I was merely referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. They all carried, at one level or another, the very arrogance you so succinctly show in your next statement.

lt.Futt wrote:The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations..


Your humility deficit, for one so obviously average in skill, is breathtaking....and a little amusing. Thank you for being such a great court jester.


You're one of a kind. Aren't you? referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. Well, I don't believe you at all. In my oppinion you're a top notch clown.


Well yes I am one of a kind, thank you for your perspicacity.

Your belief is of no importance to me, as is your opinion.

What is fact Futt, is this. You show skills definitely not required for teaching ably. You are not a master for the settings, for if you were, you would not find it necessary to complain when circumstances contrive against you. At best you are average, certainly a long long way from where you consider yourself to be. This is fact and is proven further by your insignificant rank overall.

This attitude of yours reflects not upon your critics, but upon you.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby lt.Futt on Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:05 am

Fruitcake wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.


Yes but where did I mention the SoC? I was merely referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. They all carried, at one level or another, the very arrogance you so succinctly show in your next statement.

lt.Futt wrote:The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations..


Your humility deficit, for one so obviously average in skill, is breathtaking....and a little amusing. Thank you for being such a great court jester.


You're one of a kind. Aren't you? referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. Well, I don't believe you at all. In my oppinion you're a top notch clown.


Well yes I am one of a kind, thank you for your perspicacity.

Your belief is of no importance to me, as is your opinion.

What is fact Futt, is this. You show skills definitely not required for teaching ably. You are not a master for the settings, for if you were, you would not find it necessary to complain when circumstances contrive against you. At best you are average, certainly a long long way from where you consider yourself to be. This is fact and is proven further by your insignificant rank overall.

This attitude of yours reflects not upon your critics, but upon you.


I've played 5000 games. I know 3 settings with small variations like spoils, standard and team on pretty simple maps.

I have gold medal for dubs speed on the classic map. Mostly I've played Feudal Epic no spoil 1v1. These settings are no abra kadabra. Simple settings. For Feudal Epic and dubs Classic I know every little secret. I have no number for how many thousand games I have completed for the settings. "Master" means wide experience. I can't control dice though. I have gold medal for these settings. I have nothing to prove.

What I dislike about you is your lack of ality. Stick to the topic. Pretend there are no person behind the words. Use valid and factual arguments to repelm claims. Then I might take you serious and not consider you as a top notch clown. This thread was not ment for a discussion cause there are nothing to discuss. I just didn't find an appropriate place but Discussion.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:09 am

If this isn't for discussion why post at all?
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby rhp 1 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:17 am

lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.


Yes but where did I mention the SoC? I was merely referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. They all carried, at one level or another, the very arrogance you so succinctly show in your next statement.

lt.Futt wrote:The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations..


Your humility deficit, for one so obviously average in skill, is breathtaking....and a little amusing. Thank you for being such a great court jester.


You're one of a kind. Aren't you? referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. Well, I don't believe you at all. In my oppinion you're a top notch clown.


Well yes I am one of a kind, thank you for your perspicacity.

Your belief is of no importance to me, as is your opinion.

What is fact Futt, is this. You show skills definitely not required for teaching ably. You are not a master for the settings, for if you were, you would not find it necessary to complain when circumstances contrive against you. At best you are average, certainly a long long way from where you consider yourself to be. This is fact and is proven further by your insignificant rank overall.

This attitude of yours reflects not upon your critics, but upon you.


I've played 5000 games. I know 3 settings with small variations like spoils, standard and team on pretty simple maps.

I have gold medal for dubs speed on the classic map. Mostly I've played Feudal Epic no spoil 1v1. These settings are no abra kadabra. Simple settings. For Feudal Epic and dubs Classic I know every little secret. I have no number for how many thousand games I have completed for the settings. "Master" means wide experience. I can't control dice though. I have gold medal for these settings. I have nothing to prove.

What I dislike about you is your lack of ality. Stick to the topic. Pretend there are no person behind the words. Use valid and factual arguments to repelm claims. Then I might take you serious and not consider you as a top notch clown. This thread was not ment for a discussion cause there are nothing to discuss. I just didn't find an appropriate place but Discussion.


both you and fruitcake make a mistake.. you holding up medals for your evidence of strong play/skill/knowledge etc... and fruitcake for holding up overall score as some kind of measure of the same... both are poor measurement tools for said... though I tend to agree with fruitcake on many of the issues he brought up and his rationale for advancing his arguments on "discussing" your post here...
and futt... you also make the mistake of saying this was not meant to be "discussed"... it's in discussions, so whether you think it should be discussed, or if you had no other place to put it, is not relevant, so discuss it we will if we see fit to do so.... and again, your original post, regardless of how objectively accurate, is flawed in that you extrapolate it out to prove some underlying "unfairness" that you seem to think is being levied against you... I'm simply stating, logically, pay attention to when things work out for you, take notes if necessary, and you may find that the games/issues you post about here are simply equally out what have been undoubtedly fortuitous drops/dice/etc on your part in the past...
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby Artimis on Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:21 am

I find it worrying that lt.Futt is an SoC Trainer after veiwing the chat in the following games:

Game 13488792
Game 13491130
Game 13488085

Also lt.Futt has an alarming propensity for skipping turns and generally deadbeating out of games that aren't going well. If my school teachers or later on my college tutors had spoken like this in my classes then the Head/Dean/Principal/etc would have dragged them out for a severe carpeting at the very least! What do SoC make of this?
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby frankiebee on Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:26 pm

lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:
Fruitcake wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:You said "teachers" plural. "Some" plural.


Yes but where did I mention the SoC? I was merely referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. They all carried, at one level or another, the very arrogance you so succinctly show in your next statement.

lt.Futt wrote:The settings I refer to are all my prime settings. I consider myself as master for the settings. There is nothing to discuss or try trash talk me. Trust my observations..


Your humility deficit, for one so obviously average in skill, is breathtaking....and a little amusing. Thank you for being such a great court jester.


You're one of a kind. Aren't you? referring to my lifetime experience of knowing various teachers. Well, I don't believe you at all. In my oppinion you're a top notch clown.


Well yes I am one of a kind, thank you for your perspicacity.

Your belief is of no importance to me, as is your opinion.

What is fact Futt, is this. You show skills definitely not required for teaching ably. You are not a master for the settings, for if you were, you would not find it necessary to complain when circumstances contrive against you. At best you are average, certainly a long long way from where you consider yourself to be. This is fact and is proven further by your insignificant rank overall.

This attitude of yours reflects not upon your critics, but upon you.


I've played 5000 games. I know 3 settings with small variations like spoils, standard and team on pretty simple maps.

I have gold medal for dubs speed on the classic map. Mostly I've played Feudal Epic no spoil 1v1. These settings are no abra kadabra. Simple settings. For Feudal Epic and dubs Classic I know every little secret. I have no number for how many thousand games I have completed for the settings. "Master" means wide experience. I can't control dice though. I have gold medal for these settings. I have nothing to prove.

What I dislike about you is your lack of ality. Stick to the topic. Pretend there are no person behind the words. Use valid and factual arguments to repelm claims. Then I might take you serious and not consider you as a top notch clown. This thread was not ment for a discussion cause there are nothing to discuss. I just didn't find an appropriate place but Discussion.


I wouldnt say master is wide experience. If you would know a guy who loves to play chess,he plays far more often than you, but you still manage to win 9/10 times. He has more experience, but you have a win rate of 90% on him. Who would you consider the ''master''?
5000 games says nothing. Some people stop learning at one point, and they will never excell in a game.
Gold medals say even less. When you play 5000 games you will always win some games on sheer luck. I played so many games against players with gold medals, it says absolutely nothing.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby betiko on Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:09 pm

one thing that annoyed me playing with you futt in classic speed dubs: you deploy everywhere to attack 4v3 on different places of the map that have nothing to do with one another in fucking escalating games on turns where YOU CAN T afford to freaking miss your spoil. then you miss all 3 of your 4v3 (47% each, in case you don't know it).
It is smart to drop on territories that can attack the same place (say you have bogota and buenos aires and you want sao paolo). in that case you drop 1 on bogota, 2 on buenos aires. If it's on the other side of the map it's fucking stupid. don't blame the dice for failing all 4v3. You just play like a noob. not that horrible in no spoils, but in escalating it's moronic. just my 2 cents, but as you are a soc teacher and you claim to master those settings, I guess you know better. 4+5vs3 is freaking 87%. if you don't understand odds, don't claim to master any setting.
I wanted to strangle you when we played a dubs and you kept on dropping to get 4s everywhere vs 3, failed each time and dice ranted like a little girl. one round after another... you just don't learn.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby lt.Futt on Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:19 pm

Artimis wrote:I find it worrying that lt.Futt is an SoC Trainer after veiwing the chat in the following games:

Game 13488792
Game 13491130
Game 13488085

Also lt.Futt has an alarming propensity for skipping turns and generally deadbeating out of games that aren't going well. If my school teachers or later on my college tutors had spoken like this in my classes then the Head/Dean/Principal/etc would have dragged them out for a severe carpeting at the very least! What do SoC make of this?


Sorry. I can't help you. Why not bring it to The SoC? dhallmeyer are the head. Bring it to him. Here's his name. Do I care? No. I do not care. You better hurry before you forget. Good luck!
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby loutil on Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:15 pm

Interesting stat for the master of Feudal Epic. In his last 98 games against opponents equal or higher ranked he is 48 - 50...
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby lt.Futt on Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:47 pm

loutil wrote:Interesting stat for the master of Feudal Epic. In his last 98 games against opponents equal or higher ranked he is 48 - 50...


That's what it's all about. How am I suppose to beat equal and higher ranked players when I can't beat Private 1 Class?

You may not have seen my definition of "master". I define master a player with wide experience for the setting. I do not define "master" as "the best" for the setting.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:49 pm

lt.Futt wrote:
loutil wrote:Interesting stat for the master of Feudal Epic. In his last 98 games against opponents equal or higher ranked he is 48 - 50...


That's what it's all about.

You may not have seen my definition of "master". I define master a player with wide experience for the setting. I do not define "master" as "the best" for the setting.


So you changed the definition of the word 'master'?
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby lt.Futt on Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:52 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:
loutil wrote:Interesting stat for the master of Feudal Epic. In his last 98 games against opponents equal or higher ranked he is 48 - 50...


That's what it's all about.

You may not have seen my definition of "master". I define master a player with wide experience for the setting. I do not define "master" as "the best" for the setting.


So you changed the definition of the word 'master'?


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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby _sabotage_ on Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:27 pm

2011-08-25 08:03:18 - zeus111: u have to be the luckiest f*ck ever 45 trops i lost u got this
2011-08-25 08:03:33 - zeus111: 18 on 10 u hold 8
2011-08-25 08:06:06 - _sabotage_: Beginners luck
2011-08-25 08:06:14 - _sabotage_: Seems you know this map
2011-08-25 08:08:19 - zeus111: u have no idea how lucky u r
2011-08-25 08:17:08 - zeus111: this is such bull shit
2011-08-25 08:18:02 - zeus111: 65 troops i lose to your 6 just not possible
2011-08-25 08:18:26 - zeus111: now im dam sure they give u another 3 card 10
2011-08-25 08:21:24 - zeus111: close im done f*ck it such bull shit
2011-08-25 08:25:33 - _sabotage_: How to close?
2011-08-25 08:45:56 - zeus111: sorry hal gg lost 789 points like this its just bull u played well but cc club made this an un winable game
2011-08-25 08:48:00 - zeus111: 65 to 6 is just un heaRD OF MAN
2011-08-25 08:51:19 - _sabotage_: It sucks, only my second game on here, must be they throwing the odds in my favor
2011-08-25 08:52:15 - zeus111: no biggie be well
2011-08-25 09:24:20 - zeus111: ace u read this man
2011-08-25 09:25:07 - zeus111: had him to 8 reigions to this
2011-08-25 09:25:58 - zeus111: this is the biggest bs way to incourage new recruits to become a member

This was my first match on the site. The guy gave me a one star rating. My first rating. I've tapped down 17 with a five stack, conquered it and took the next as well. I lost one troop. I've lost 18 to 2 after eliminating the player from the board elsewhere in a four player escalating in the cup. It sucks, it rocks. Let it go.
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Re: $25 a year is cheap. No wonder.

Postby colton24 on Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:38 pm

It's a game.

You're an SoC instructor.

Would you tell anyone else in the SoC to rage on the GD forums everytime they have a bad luck streak?

I didn't think so.
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