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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby rabbiton on Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:25 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:I have known of rabbiton for awhile and scouted him way back, many many months ago, and he was a 3K score player before he even tried this, so there is no doubt he can play, although it is mostly no cards, singles, he is like a lazaruslong which i doubt most even know him, but both are real good at those game styles. cheers rabbiton


lazarus long was my first crush, then when i beat him i was my second.

oh and for your top 5 this, that and everything thread, i counted 235 in a row... give or take.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby jiminski on Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:28 am

Blitzaholic wrote:I have known of rabbiton for awhile and scouted him way back, many many months ago, and he was a 3K score player before he even tried this, so there is no doubt he can play, although it is mostly no cards, singles, he is like a lazaruslong which i doubt most even know him, but both are real good at those game styles. cheers rabbiton


Is this relevant Blitzy; it is almost an apology .. as is the original post from Rabbit. Sure it is masquerading as as a 'f*ck you' and it is derogatory to those 'beneath him' but we generally say 'f- you' to people when we feel under attack.

so why does Rabbit feel the need to put his tackle on the block and say 'go on then! chop it off!"?

because he is a Noob-Farmer (Noob-Whisperer is vintage .. as i say i wish it had come from anothers mind, as in this guise it seeks to quell the fires of indignation.. by lighting the match first) and he can feel the backlash of public cynicism.
I have not studied how he does it but i don't think it is in the same manner as Klobber... what he does, is go into games filled with unknown quantities, with players looking for his juicy points and he wins; with suiciders and people who take out his stacks .. he wins 100% of the time!

now Rabbit can be a bit of a whiner (can't we all!) But I have to give him credit for that! even Klobber, who didn't actually have any opposition, could not manage even close to that record.

Now if i misinterpret his post and it is calculated to garner this very perspective, then his tone is arrogant and offensive (though still entertaining).
If i read him correctly and he subconsciously 'seeks' credit for what he knows will receive none.... then fair enough: remarkable job.

there is a 3rd option of course which mixes all up together and then just breezily accepts that this is an on-line game which ultimately means nothing other than a bit of distraction and fun .....heheh but we know Rabbit cares really .. don't we!? ;)
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:44 am

I seen the words "noob" and "freestyle" so I thought I would drop bye just to say hello
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby rabbiton on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:10 pm

jiminski wrote:there is a 3rd option of course


clear your mind jiminski, rotate your snout towards the north, feel the pain-stained breeze slide through your churlish forelocks...

the meaning you seek is right there...

dangling...

glistening...

and slipping away though the cracks of maudlin happenstance.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby jiminski on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:14 pm

rabbiton wrote:
jiminski wrote:there is a 3rd option of course


clear your mind jiminski, rotate your snout towards the north, feel the pain-stained breeze slide through your churlish forelocks...

the meaning you seek is right there...

dangling...

glistening...

and slipping away though the cracks of maudlin happenstance.



good lad.

I do apologise for my misinterpretation.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby edsdad on Sat Aug 16, 2008 1:37 pm

owenshooter wrote:
rabbiton wrote:
owenshooter wrote:maybe you could just start chasing medals, since you have a meager 8... that seems to be the latest fad all the kids are up to these days...-0


"medals"... is that what those things are? what can they be used for? are chicks into them?

apparently, they sell replicas of the medals you have earned in the CC Gift Shop. you can pin them to your every day attire, like t-shirts or swim trunks, or a dress shirt, or your suit (if you have a nice job) or even an army uniform from your homeland bought at the local miliatry surplus store. some of the younger kids on CC, pin them to their letter jackets, right next to their science fair and 3rd chair trombone patches... if you wear them out on a saturday night, be prepared for nothing but multi-chicks in your bed, and a night of debauchery, the likes of only which lackattack has ever seen!!!-0


Good job -O,Pretty much scored hits on everything with that reply,never at a loss for words.Carry on buddy.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Robinette on Sat Aug 16, 2008 2:42 pm

Rabbiton was a good child...

Very talented in the honorable methods of the game...


but somehow, somewhere along the way, we lost him...
all is not without hope however...

perhaps he can yet be saved from the evil that has ensnared him...

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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby jiminski on Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:04 pm

it was the 4th option
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby porkenbeans on Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:09 pm

rabbiton wrote:sometime earlier this year i got really bored again.

the treacherous vagaries of the types of games i had traditionally played became dull and insipid, rather than nuanced and invigorating. i started experimenting with weird obscure game options, mixing them together until i got a bad habit like 2 player speed on gazala. it covered up my boredom for a while but did not cure it. i needed a more meaty challenge.

for a while i stopped new games entirely. ran my active games all the way to just 9 super-awesome stalematey-like no cards thrillers, all well in the 100s of rounds. but my competitive streak wouldn't allow me to leave these games... so i was stuck...

then one day it came to me. instead of playing games on cc, i would play the game of cc. that is, the scoreboard. i would get points anyway possible, within the rules, as presented in the Rules.

i toyed with this as its own logic puzzle, just like an 8 player escalating takeout. I tried a few
different things. I developed a general approach then refined it.

then one day I discovered that I couldn't lose.

i had become the noob-whisperer.

yes, i discovered suddenly that by meticulously following a system that i developed, i had become invincible against noobs. indeed, i am entirely confident that by following this system i can make conqueror because my calculations told me that the win rate i needed was less than my actual current win rate under the system of... 100%. i can't remember the last time i lost a game, which is good because i really don't like losing.

now there are a variety of things that go into this system, some of which are obvious by looking at my record, others of which are less obvious. for example, i wear a purple cape at my keyboard at all times. also, discipline certainly plays a significant role, so this system would not be for the 99% of humans that can't even follow through on the simplest self-prescribed dictates, let alone follow an ongoing program of anything more demanding that the covering of ones flesh with cloth before stepping out for the day. further, to be a true noob-whisperer, you need to get under the skull-cap of the noob. you need
to be as the noob, even while you are not of the noob. if anyone is interested in purchasing my system, please make your offer in the most entertaining way possible.

in any case, i hardly believe i'm the only one with the innate skills to do it. probably there will be a lot more people trying soon, which is perhaps one way to mitigate the "issue", as noob-demand will outstrip noob-supply. there are other ways i can think of as well, but of course as soon as one "issue" is mitigated, another will arise, as the next rabbiton emerges,
scent of blood in its flaring nostrils, steely eyes fixed gleelessly on its score, black-hearted, machine like apparatus forged and finely honed for nothing other than merciless preying on the weak and ignorant.

in any case, now i'm really bored again.

the sheer momentum of never losing was carrying me on, however the nexus of dice, cards, and an opponent who wasn't entirely retarded is finally about to catch up with me. game number is 3018952 if you want to go cheer on private tnguyenv, who will become the first new recruit (when the game started) to beat me, and he doesn't even seem to be a multi.

congrats to private tnguyenv!

so with a stupid amount of points in my kit-bag, and a fire-proof system to get more, now what? i could chase the conqueror title, but it somehow doesn't seem worth it.

and i'm still stuck in the same 9 marathon games with no end in sight.

i was considering joining a "clan", though i can't truly imagine what that would entail.

i was considering playing teams games... but who would be interested in teaming with a very high ranked team-noob?

maybe i should just buy the website and shut it down.

maybe then i'd be at peace.

All-be-it most entertaining to read, Your solo back-slapping really killed it. I must say however, that you are the undisputed King. They should even design a special rank just for you. A cooks hat w/ a star on it would fit the bill. Here is something for you to chew on rabbit, Maybe the reason you are bored, is, Your victory is as hollow, as a cheating multi. =D> =D> =D>
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:13 am

reguardless of what he did or did not do, the streak is simply impressive! btw we have another person trying a run at his streak.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby porkenbeans on Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:52 pm

Bruceswar wrote:reguardless of what he did or did not do, the streak is simply impressive! btw we have another person trying a run at his streak.
Beating up on newbies that start freestyle games, does not impress me. He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him. :lol: CC could close this loophole. Simply take the average ranks of opponents. Then, make it that no player may surpass that average more than, say 3 or 4 ranks. That would mean that if a players average opponent is a private, his rank could not exceed seargent. :twisted:
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Robinette on Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:21 pm

porkenbeans wrote:......He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him.......



Wow... you've played ONE no cards game with him...
and you talked smack all the way thru [-X

I've played him enough to know that he IS a good player,
(even though he has yet to beat me) :P
of course, I'm talking about 6 player std seq escalating,
can't really comment about these other formats...
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby rabbiton on Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:27 pm

Robinette wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:......He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him.......



Wow... you've played ONE no cards game with him...
and you talked smack all the way thru [-X

I've played him enough to know that he IS a good player,
(even though he has yet to beat me) :P
of course, I'm talking about 6 player std seq escalating,
can't really comment about these other formats...


robinette, i'm shock and appalled at this grave perversion of reality:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1207773
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby jiminski on Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:30 pm

porkenbeans wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:reguardless of what he did or did not do, the streak is simply impressive! btw we have another person trying a run at his streak.
Beating up on newbies that start freestyle games, does not impress me. He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him. :lol: CC could close this loophole. Simply take the average ranks of opponents. Then, make it that no player may surpass that average more than, say 3 or 4 ranks. That would mean that if a players average opponent is a private, his rank could not exceed seargent. :twisted:



well i think they were pretty cheap points and tactics too .. i am sure Rabbit would not argue either.

He is not not a good player though.. his ability gives him the ability to 'perhaps' reach the top. (though i do debate that as he did not) Usually making the top requires using a specific strategy or gametype to maintain the points. i agree he is not skilled enough to make 5,000 points by playing all the best sequential, 6 man escalator players.. but pretty much no one is. At a certain level, most players have the ability to take points off one another and certainly enough to make the necessary win ratio for point increase pretty much impossible.

the arms race to make Conqueror has taken the points required to make it, past the point of natural gaming... which is why i liken being conqueror to beating the world record for the 100 metres. Now that Steroids have been used, 'natural' means may never enable man to reach those heights.

Heheh Pooh, Scott and Snap will have something to say about that, and they are absolutely exceptional players. My point stills stands though: in order to keep ahead of each other, they have specialised in ways to counter the point handicap of such a high relative score.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Robinette on Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:41 pm

rabbiton wrote:
Robinette wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:......He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him.......



Wow... you've played ONE no cards game with him...
and you talked smack all the way thru [-X

I've played him enough to know that he IS a good player,
(even though he has yet to beat me) :P
of course, I'm talking about 6 player std seq escalating,
can't really comment about these other formats...


robinette, i'm shock and appalled at this grave perversion of reality:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1207773


oh my... how did i miss that one..........

SEE... THERE IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT RABBITON IS A GREAT PLAYER!
(feel better now?)

Now leave behind the sin and point debauchery of recent months, and come back to our 6 player escalators...
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Georgerx7di on Sun Aug 17, 2008 4:00 pm

Robinette wrote:
rabbiton wrote:
Robinette wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:......He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him.......



Wow... you've played ONE no cards game with him...
and you talked smack all the way thru [-X

I've played him enough to know that he IS a good player,
(even though he has yet to beat me) :P
of course, I'm talking about 6 player std seq escalating,
can't really comment about these other formats...


robinette, i'm shock and appalled at this grave perversion of reality:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1207773


oh my... how did i miss that one..........

SEE... THERE IS PROOF POSITIVE THAT RABBITON IS A GREAT PLAYER!
(feel better now?)

Now leave behind the sin and point debauchery of recent months, and come back to our 6 player escalators...



Amen sister
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Scott-Land on Sun Aug 17, 2008 9:33 pm

jiminski wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:reguardless of what he did or did not do, the streak is simply impressive! btw we have another person trying a run at his streak.
Beating up on newbies that start freestyle games, does not impress me. He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him. :lol: CC could close this loophole. Simply take the average ranks of opponents. Then, make it that no player may surpass that average more than, say 3 or 4 ranks. That would mean that if a players average opponent is a private, his rank could not exceed seargent. :twisted:



well i think they were pretty cheap points and tactics too .. i am sure Rabbit would not argue either.

He is not not a good player though.. his ability gives him the ability to 'perhaps' reach the top. (though i do debate that as he did not) Usually making the top requires using a specific strategy or gametype to maintain the points. i agree he is not skilled enough to make 5,000 points by playing all the best sequential, 6 man escalator players.. but pretty much no one is. At a certain level, most players have the ability to take points off one another and certainly enough to make the necessary win ratio for point increase pretty much impossible.

the arms race to make Conqueror has taken the points required to make it, past the point of natural gaming... which is why i liken being conqueror to beating the world record for the 100 metres. Now that Steroids have been used, 'natural' means may never enable man to reach those heights.

Heheh Pooh, Scott and Snap will have something to say about that, and they are absolutely exceptional players. My point stills stands though: in order to keep ahead of each other, they have specialised in ways to counter the point handicap of such a high relative score.


There's one reason that will make it extremely extremely difficult to reach the top now playing 6 man, there simply isn't enough high ranks to yield a high enough point gain. Players like Frog, Seul, Teylen, etc are the ones that hurt the most. Down the line when there are more players that are in the 4500 range, it's quite possible. For now, it's hard enough to get a brig lineup let alone all generals even then a 5000 player wins 60ish and loses 35. What we need is for those whom gain points outside of the 6 man games to play in them. But most are too afraid to lose their points or have separate goals they want to achieve.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby porkenbeans on Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:32 pm

rabbiton wrote:
Robinette wrote:
porkenbeans wrote:......He is NOT a very good Risk player, ive played him.......



Wow... you've played ONE no cards game with him...
and you talked smack all the way thru [-X

I've played him enough to know that he IS a good player,
(even though he has yet to beat me) :P
of course, I'm talking about 6 player std seq escalating,
can't really comment about these other formats...


robinette, i'm shock and appalled at this grave perversion of reality:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=1207773

proves nothing. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then. hahaha.
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:01 am

Bruceswar wrote:reguardless of what he did or did not do, the streak is simply impressive! btw we have another person trying a run at his streak.



care to share sir bruce?
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Bruceswar on Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:29 am

Blitzaholic wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:reguardless of what he did or did not do, the streak is simply impressive! btw we have another person trying a run at his streak.



care to share sir bruce?


PM Sent :)
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby jiminski on Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:49 am

Scott-Land wrote:
There's one reason that will make it extremely extremely difficult to reach the top now playing 6 man, there simply isn't enough high ranks to yield a high enough point gain. Players like Frog, Seul, Teylen, etc are the ones that hurt the most. Down the line when there are more players that are in the 4500 range, it's quite possible. For now, it's hard enough to get a brig lineup let alone all generals even then a 5000 player wins 60ish and loses 35. What we need is for those whom gain points outside of the 6 man games to play in them. But most are too afraid to lose their points or have separate goals they want to achieve.


Yeap, The reality is that you have to play the system in some way to get and sustain 4k and above. 6 player esc is locked in a kind of catch 22; it needs to draw upon more, higher scoring player-points to reach further but to do so it needs to draw upon more, higher scoring player points.
So yes only those who play the system could inject enough relative points but, good though many are, they know it is practically impossible to win enough games to tread-water against even close to equal competition.

In a way i do not blame them, they have often sacrificed fun for points; with hours of boring, challengless challenges; where the only challenge is to not be bored, by the lack of challenge, into defeating yourself to add spice to the challenge... (how did ya do it Rabbit?.. )
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Robinette on Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:51 am

jiminski wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:
There's one reason that will make it extremely extremely difficult to reach the top now playing 6 man, there simply isn't enough high ranks to yield a high enough point gain. Players like Frog, Seul, Teylen, etc are the ones that hurt the most. Down the line when there are more players that are in the 4500 range, it's quite possible. For now, it's hard enough to get a brig lineup let alone all generals even then a 5000 player wins 60ish and loses 35. What we need is for those whom gain points outside of the 6 man games to play in them. But most are too afraid to lose their points or have separate goals they want to achieve.


Yeap, The reality is that you have to play the system in some way to get and sustain 4k and above. 6 player esc is locked in a kind of catch 22; it needs to draw upon more, higher scoring player-points to reach further but to do so it needs to draw upon more, higher scoring player points.
So yes only those who play the system could inject enough relative points but, good though many are, they know it is practically impossible to win enough games to tread-water against even close to equal competition.

In a way i do not blame them, they have often sacrificed fun for points; with hours of boring, challengless challenges; where the only challenge is to not be bored, by the lack of challenge, into defeating yourself to add spice to the challenge... (how did ya do it Rabbit?.. )


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i think that rabbiton was spinning on that circular logic wheel so hard that he got pulled into its' gravitational field and got sucked into the center, with no way to break free...

poor poor rabbiton... i'll miss him...

memorial services will be planned soon...
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Re: rabbiton: the noob-whisperer

Postby Georgerx7di on Sun Aug 24, 2008 1:11 am

Robinette wrote:
jiminski wrote:
Scott-Land wrote:
There's one reason that will make it extremely extremely difficult to reach the top now playing 6 man, there simply isn't enough high ranks to yield a high enough point gain. Players like Frog, Seul, Teylen, etc are the ones that hurt the most. Down the line when there are more players that are in the 4500 range, it's quite possible. For now, it's hard enough to get a brig lineup let alone all generals even then a 5000 player wins 60ish and loses 35. What we need is for those whom gain points outside of the 6 man games to play in them. But most are too afraid to lose their points or have separate goals they want to achieve.


Yeap, The reality is that you have to play the system in some way to get and sustain 4k and above. 6 player esc is locked in a kind of catch 22; it needs to draw upon more, higher scoring player-points to reach further but to do so it needs to draw upon more, higher scoring player points.
So yes only those who play the system could inject enough relative points but, good though many are, they know it is practically impossible to win enough games to tread-water against even close to equal competition.

In a way i do not blame them, they have often sacrificed fun for points; with hours of boring, challengless challenges; where the only challenge is to not be bored, by the lack of challenge, into defeating yourself to add spice to the challenge... (how did ya do it Rabbit?.. )


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i think that rabbiton was spinning on that circular logic wheel so hard that he got pulled into its' gravitational field and got sucked into the center, with no way to break free...

poor poor rabbiton... i'll miss him...

memorial services will be planned soon...


Your my hero robin, and yes I am stalking you. : )
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