Strategy or exploiting a loop-hole??

by **pimphawks70** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:27 am

demonfork wrote:yawn.

by **Nephilim** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:45 am

khazalid wrote:
demonfork wrote:
khazalid wrote:then why did you just challenge me?

This is about freestyle not sequential, I challenged you to a FREESTYLE match

so.. following this logical path - you have something to prove in freestyle but not in sequential?

kick his ass, c-bass

by **PLAYER57832** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:55 am

Rustler wrote:I have come across this so called "strategy" twice now. The first time it was done to me, I didn't care about the game but it was still annoying. The fact that my opponent used this "tactic" to begin with just showed me how bad a strategist he was to use such an exploit.

The exploit is simple enough, and I find it alarming how many people use it, how many people are alright with it being used and that the admins don't seem to give a rats ass about it.

It takes a freestyle game to do it. Now, standard rule in freestyle games, set up by the people who run this...site...is that if you were the last to go in a freestyle game round, you cannot be the first to go in the new round. This keeps people from going twice in a row, keeps them from having an unfair advantage in a game. This, I repeat, is something THEY have set up!! To get around this, people wait until the 24 hour round is almost up in the freestyle game before taking their turn, they then let the time run out instead of finishing their turn after attacking and making fortifications, if any. Now, when the time runs out, the slate is wiped clean and everybody gets to go again, even the last person who didn't finish their turn. That way, they get to go twice in a row, exploiting that little failure on the admins part to think about that ahead of time.

I reported this as an exploit and I was told it wasn't against the rules. They made the rule of when you are the last to go, you cannot be first in the new round...so their intent was to keep this shit from happening. Why they do not bother to fix it and keep idiots from exploiting is beyond me. It is that reason that I have canceled my account.

Well, that is the largest reason. There are a few others, but the fact that the people in charge are aware of it and just let it go...the fact that so many people have to cheat to win a strategy game...it is appalling. So, good luck to the rest of you, be aware of this cheap exploit, and I suggest you avoid playing with people who use it. The only two that I saw who used it were high ranking paid members....whether or not this has an impact on the admins turning a blind eye, I have no knowledge. Enjoy!

This is one of the many, many reasons I dislike playing freestyle.

I had thought they fixed this problem by allowing the second person to start if 1/2 the time had elapsed. It could be this doesn't happen if the turn has already started, but I am not sure how that can be since the time to take a turn is less than 1/2 the time allowed for a next turn (in casual, the second player could take their turn after 12 hours, but there is only 1 hour for a turn, etc.)

by **Strife** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:11 pm

Seriously, if it wasn't meant to be "exploited" then it wouldn't happen. I'm sure lack could easily change it, but he doesn't because that's the point of freestyle. You are free to use whatever style you like. :roll:

by **ysaric** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:51 pm

Rustler wrote:
this is very true i can double turn and keep my opponents from it

Anyone that is good with freestyle strategy can easily thwart any opponent from taking a double turn.

Anybody good with freestyle strategy? What in the monkey f@#k is wrong with you people? Instead of being appalled at such an exploit, you freely defend it. But of course...the people who use that exploit would defend it..../sigh.

Oh, and I have no desire to plan my day around a game just so I can keep people from using an exploit. I have stated my answer to such, and it will take full affect after this reply. I will not ever visit this site again, not even to check in on the status of this forum post. If all it gets is people defending using exploits, then CC go go f@#k themselves as wel as the exploiters.

Later folks.

I'm with Rustler, the ethics of people playing this game online are very different from how they would behave playing in person (the alternative being that many of the people who play this game are actually significant douchebags in real life, so I suppose I shouldn't jump to the former conclusion), very much to the detriment of the game. It's more of an amoral ethics that values winning significantly more than good sportsmanship.

by **Creptacular** on Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:54 pm

I really don't think it is that big of a deal..

I mean, I don't understand why you are so butthurt about it. If the admins think it gives other players a disadvantage then they'll fix it.

by **Thezzaruz** on Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:23 am

Creptacular wrote:I really don't think it is that big of a deal..

You really should play a few FS games to get a clue what the issue is about. Having a grasp of the history of the double turn rule would help too.

by **BrutalBob** on Fri Jul 24, 2009 6:58 am

The original poster does have a point.

It is obviously an oversight/ loophole. You would not put in place a system to stop people having two turns in a row yet purposely enable those that stretch their turn out to the full 24 hours to get just that.

However Rustlers reaction seems fairly extreme. If you dont like it, dont play that type of game. Theres plenty to choose from.

If the injustice of the whole system is more than your sensibilities can bear then yes, you better just go.

I am sure the people responsible for this game do their best. It may even get fixed in time. But in the meantime you should look at the good things here. Theres plenty to be thankful for.

by **Royal Panda** on Fri Jul 24, 2009 7:41 am

If you don't like this particular aspect of the game, then stay away from freestyle! It is not a loop-hole, it is just a legal strategy. I wouldn't recommend noobs on the site to play freestyle games until they're competent on sequential anyway.

As for me, I tend to stay clear of freestyle games on the whole. Even though I know how to use the mentioned strategy, I cannot plan my day around the site, so am far happier having 24 hours to take my turn, with nothing to worry about should I not take it in that small gap of time.

Oh, and anyone who isn't very experienced, NEVER play freestyle team games against the better players, as they will co-ordinate their turns and use every aspect of freestyle to rape your points!