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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby Evil Semp on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:00 pm

beersurfer wrote:
Snowgun wrote:are there any MODS that have authority to address this? ... does anyone know who i can contact? ...


Go to the suggestions and Bug forum and fill out the form at the top.

Don't just go in there and say it isn't fair. Give reasonable reasons why it should be changed, how it should be changed, and the benefits of the change. Get support from others who share your view. Don't get into a shouting match. Convince the people who disagree with you to change their minds.

The rule used to be that the busted player could finish their games but the community wanted it changed. Is the current way the best way? Probably not.

If the busted player was able to finish their team games what would stop them from going after their own team? If they were in standard games and got kicked out they just might say screw everyone and kill their own team, and don't say that they wouldn't, after all they are a cheater. That would be fair either and someone would complain about that.
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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby beersurfer on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:49 pm

Thank You Semp ... :)

sorry snowgun ... i had no idea
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last 25 battles:
beersurfer luck Avg roll -- opponents luck Avg roll
Assault ....-26% ..... 2.86 ............+48% .....4.70

really???????????
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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby Woodruff on Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:42 pm

beersurfer wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:would you prefer to lose points to a cheater (multi)?


well this is a pretty irrational view... simple answer is no ... who would?
but it is irrelevant all the same ... it has nothing to do with this topic ... thanks for the uninsightful response...
I have played 106 games with mystique and not once has the people he's accused of being multi's with been in those games ... so would i like to lose to a multi?, no; however, i only play trips and quads with a few dubs here and there... if anyone wants to multi in a team game against me... more power to ya ...
DO YOU SEE THESE MEDALS ----------------------------------------------------------------- GOLD TRIPS AND QUADS--------->
the only benefit i see from multi-ing is in multi-player standard sequential (where it becomes 2people on the multi's side) against all other individual's
please come and multi against me in a quads game and tell me how you benefit (aside from being on my team and throwing the game to the other team) if you join team 2 with all the spaces taken by your multi accounts ... you have no benefit other than running your one strategy against our team's four players coming together with different ideas and deciphering the best plan
this is where the rules are unfair!!!! there is no real advantage to a multi in a team game ... unless he is playing both sides
so the team games should be abolished when a multi is caught... the multi isn't benefiting from team games ...
IS THIS CLEAR ENOUGH?
Can I actually get a logical response from a mod? Not some ignorant question addressing an even more ignorant view?
PLEASE ....


You got one, and chose to dismiss it out of hand.
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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby beersurfer on Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:16 am

Woodruff wrote:
You got one, and chose to dismiss it out of hand.


beersufer wrote:the only benefit i see from multi-ing is in multi-player standard sequential (where it becomes 2people on the multi's side) against all other individual's

please come and multi against me in a quads game and tell me how you benefit (aside from being on my team and throwing the game to the other team) if you join team 2 with all the spaces taken by your multi accounts ... you have no benefit other than running your one strategy against our team's four players coming together with different ideas and deciphering the best plan

well if you can read ... and you read this statement ... you could see that i have eliminated the chance of losing to any multi-s
by my comprehension of the game ...

something you perhaps have not yet figured out... which would explain why you would simply reiterate the ignorant comment you left on the first page of this thread

i should have seen it immediately when you posted about how you need to get a life because all you do is search through threads on conquer club and leave ignorant comments and try to belittle people to make yourself feel satisfied with your existence ... got it ... your foed ... stay the hell away from me ...
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Assault ....-26% ..... 2.86 ............+48% .....4.70

really???????????
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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:57 am

Snowgun wrote:Think this will have to be chaulked up to the dangers of doing business with people who are shady.

....

Punishment by association. So don't associate with those people, and the natural order will cause them to dwindle in number.


Right, it's just like all those seemingly innocent contractors and laborers repairing the DeathStar getting annihilated. Collateral damage!

Just don't work with shady members/organizations like that slime ball, jefjef--I mean, Mystique!
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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby Snowgun on Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:42 am

beersurfer wrote:Thank You Semp ... :)

sorry snowgun ... i had no idea


No need to be sorry bro, you were pissed, I feel your pain. ;)

BigBallinStalin wrote:Right, it's just like all those seemingly innocent contractors and laborers repairing the DeathStar getting annihilated. Collateral damage!
Just don't work with shady members/organizations like that slime ball, jefjef--I mean, Mystique!


LOL :lol:


beersurfer wrote:]i should have seen it immediately when you posted about how you need to get a life because all you do is search through threads on conquer club and leave ignorant comments and try to belittle people to make yourself feel satisfied with your existence ... got it ... your foed ... stay the hell away from me ...

Kudo's Beersurfer! Thats why I only see:

ConquerClub wrote:This post was made by Woodruff who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.


When that clown decides to puke in the thread. 8-)
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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby Woodruff on Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:00 pm

beersurfer wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
You got one, and chose to dismiss it out of hand.


beersufer wrote:the only benefit i see from multi-ing is in multi-player standard sequential (where it becomes 2people on the multi's side) against all other individual's

please come and multi against me in a quads game and tell me how you benefit (aside from being on my team and throwing the game to the other team) if you join team 2 with all the spaces taken by your multi accounts ... you have no benefit other than running your one strategy against our team's four players coming together with different ideas and deciphering the best plan

well if you can read ... and you read this statement ... you could see that i have eliminated the chance of losing to any multi-s
by my comprehension of the game ...


If you have the ability to know what potential opponents of yours are multis, how did you miss a multi on your own team?

beersufer wrote:something you perhaps have not yet figured out...


I have not yet figured out how to know who is a multi and who is not. Nor have you, I am certain.

beersufer wrote:i should have seen it immediately when you posted about how you need to get a life because all you do is search through threads on conquer club and leave ignorant comments and try to belittle people to make yourself feel satisfied with your existence ... got it ... your foed ... stay the hell away from me ...


Perhaps you can point out to me where I've belittled ANYONE to this point - because that's not a very accurate statement on your part. Then again, you seem to have decided to "play the coward" and run away behind your foe wall so that any points made against you won't be seen. That's certainly a productive move on your part.

Snowgun wrote:Kudo's Beersurfer! Thats why I only see:
ConquerClub wrote:This post was made by Woodruff who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

When that clown decides to puke in the thread. 8-)


It's unfortunate that you don't seem able to handle a healthy dose of reality and perspective. How unfortunate for you.
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Re: KICKED OUT FOR RULES VIOLATION- consequences for teammates?

Postby Thezzaruz on Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:15 am

lord voldemort wrote:would you prefer to lose points to a cheater (multi)?

But that really isn't the problem here though. I would prefer to get the team mates troops & territs right away so that they can continue to play a difference in the game rather than getting them rounds later when that are likely to be irrelevant.


Snowgun wrote:
Chuuuuck wrote: But then all of the team games should be just declared a draw, or someone else should be able to stand in so the teammates aren't punished.

to play devils advocate: How is this fair? What if the other team was winning?

That would only apply to games that was declared a draw, which ain't gonna happen for other reasons, so it's really a moot point.


Snowgun wrote:What if the "Stand in" is someone with much greater or much less skill?

The effect of changing the skill level of a team mate is far far smaller than the effect of not having the team mate at all though. And thus making it not much of an issue tbh.


Snowgun wrote:No matter what happens, someone is gonna get screwed.

True, but there is a difference between getting minorly or royally screwed. And IMO there is no need to go for maximum effect when minimum could do the job.


Snowgun wrote:If you think about it, this will make it more difficult for people who are likely to get banned (read: assholes, multi's, trolls, abusers in general) to get any gaming in because people will not want to partner with them, etc.

True, but that also means that joining a public team game without a pre-set team is more or less out of the question. I'm quite sure that that never has been CCs intention.
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