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AgentSmith88 wrote:You know, I didn't really care one way or the other about the banning because I haven't had any problems with being banned. However, after reading the "Forum Guidelines" and seeing that basically typing ANYTHING can get you banned, I'm a little bit pissed off. I found this under trolling and thought it was pertinent:
"ā¢Don't flog a dead horse. If a discussion is over, it's over. Screaming louder, more or in a different place is not going to change the answer already given. If you think the answer was wrong, PM an Admin. If you think the admin is wrong, then this probably isn't the right community for you."
clapper011 wrote: you are so wrong 4mygod, I am a member before a moderator. And I AM NOT 2 people...LOL no one person can be 2 people as you stated
clapper011 wrote:4myGod wrote:Come on now clapper. Don't take this so personal. You guys can suggest things as well, but when your suggestions to ban a user get put into action without any reasonable reason from the viewpoint of the community, your opinions and suggestions will be in question.
I beg to differ, if I didn't be somewhat emotional in my moderating, for
1) it wouldn't be me.
2) I would be cold and uncaring
3) I would be like a robot........ and I very much doubt users on this site would want to be moderated by a robot that would read EVERYTHING that possibly could be taken as wrong (be it a topic that looked like spam etc) closely related to the guidelines as against them.......
so excuse me for taking your bitter words as a personal attack on all moderators, even if we had absolutely NOTHING TO DO with dm's ban!
Woodruff wrote:AgentSmith88 wrote:You know, I didn't really care one way or the other about the banning because I haven't had any problems with being banned. However, after reading the "Forum Guidelines" and seeing that basically typing ANYTHING can get you banned, I'm a little bit pissed off. I found this under trolling and thought it was pertinent:
"ā¢Don't flog a dead horse. If a discussion is over, it's over. Screaming louder, more or in a different place is not going to change the answer already given. If you think the answer was wrong, PM an Admin. If you think the admin is wrong, then this probably isn't the right community for you."
While I agree with the spirit of those sentences, I would absolutely agree that it needs to be re-worded.
AgentSmith88 wrote:That wasn't really my point, although you make a good one. The point I was trying to make was the bolded part, about how if you have a problem you should pm an admin and if you aren't satisfied after that then tough shit. (or at least that's how it's worded) So basically if the admin you pm doesn't agree with you then you are screwed.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Woodruff wrote:AgentSmith88 wrote:You know, I didn't really care one way or the other about the banning because I haven't had any problems with being banned. However, after reading the "Forum Guidelines" and seeing that basically typing ANYTHING can get you banned, I'm a little bit pissed off. I found this under trolling and thought it was pertinent:
"ā¢Don't flog a dead horse. If a discussion is over, it's over. Screaming louder, more or in a different place is not going to change the answer already given. If you think the answer was wrong, PM an Admin. If you think the admin is wrong, then this probably isn't the right community for you."
While I agree with the spirit of those sentences, I would absolutely agree that it needs to be re-worded.
The biggest problem with that wording is that many things people like to discuss come up again and again and again .. in discussion. Maybe new people join in, maybe just a slightly different perspective and sometimes... well a lot of discussions do wind up with "is there God" or "what is right and wrong". These are questions to which there really is no one, set, universal answer and so, while the horse might be dead for some, it is never fully gone.
On the other hand, I don't think anyone really likes reading the 1,000,000th "the dice are rigged" thread or "so and so is %$#&&*" over and over and over.
I would suggest that perhaps the standard should differ in "Suggs and Bugs, GD, etc." and the discussion/social forums.
To a point, the best answer to someone who is debating something you don't like is simply to ignore them. I would say that in some cases, that is really the best response to some complaints (and yes, I am quite sure that response is given at times).
However, this is yet another divergeance from the perma-ban issue.
hookshotwillaby wrote:The ones i've noticed having fun here have all been asked to leave at one time or another. What is that?
Woodruff wrote:hookshotwillaby wrote:The ones i've noticed having fun here have all been asked to leave at one time or another. What is that?
What "that" is...is a very strong mis-perception, in my opinion.
notyou2 wrote:I have a solution to all this.....appoint DM et al as forum moderators.
Problem solved.
notyou2 wrote:I have a solution to all this.....appoint DM et al as forum moderators.
Problem solved.
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AndyDufresne wrote:Agreed the Moderators are for moderating conflicts. That is why Administrators, the club managers, are involved with high up disciplinary actions like the removal from the club.
--Andy
AndyDufresne wrote:There is no specific on whether something is reported or whether it is found via moderating the Forum.
However, I think the largest part of things we deal with are reported, mostly via the Reported Posts feature. Very few things are found from simply a moderator "stumbling onto something" ---since we have so many eyes in the community reporting things. We average a relatively large number of reported posts a day.
--Andy
AndyDufresne wrote:I think you misunderstood what I meant by "Reported Posts." The Forum Software allows users to "report posts" -- see the "!" icon located near the Quote Button? This notifys Moderators and Admins, who have access to Moderation in that specific forum or all forums, depending on their level, to see Reported Posts.
Reported posts don't often get reported in the "Cheating and Abuse Reports" Forum---since they have their own built in forum software.
I hope that makes sense, and I hope I didn't misunderstand you!
--Andy
AndyDufresne wrote:It's actually quite a helpful tool for Moderation---which is why I assume something as big as phpBB has it as a feature.
--Andy
jiminski wrote:Woodruff wrote:hookshotwillaby wrote:The ones i've noticed having fun here have all been asked to leave at one time or another. What is that?
What "that" is...is a very strong mis-perception, in my opinion.
it is a mild misconception.
thegreekdog wrote:Is there a requirement that there must be a complaint before disciplinary action is initiated? In other words, if Player A is trolling, is that Player disciplined regardless of whether another player makes a complaint? If so, maybe we can make that part of a revised rule set - "In cases of minor infractions (trolling, etc.), discipline will not be meted out unless the alleged offender has been formally accused by another member of the community."
thegreekdog wrote:AndyDufresne wrote:I think you misunderstood what I meant by "Reported Posts." The Forum Software allows users to "report posts" -- see the "!" icon located near the Quote Button? This notifys Moderators and Admins, who have access to Moderation in that specific forum or all forums, depending on their level, to see Reported Posts.
Reported posts don't often get reported in the "Cheating and Abuse Reports" Forum---since they have their own built in forum software.
I hope that makes sense, and I hope I didn't misunderstand you!
No, I got you now. Sorry for the ignorance there. As you can tell, I've never reported someone for a bad post. Makes sense I guess. Takes a lot of the transparency out of the process. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.
Woodruff wrote:jiminski wrote:Woodruff wrote:hookshotwillaby wrote:The ones i've noticed having fun here have all been asked to leave at one time or another. What is that?
What "that" is...is a very strong mis-perception, in my opinion.
it is a mild misconception.
You actually believe that it's only a mild misperception to state that the ones having fun on the site are the ones that are being asked to leave? I'm surprised to hear ANYONE say that...because if there are THAT many people "not having fun here"...
Woodruff wrote: ... many people "not having fun here"...
jiminski wrote:Woodruff wrote:jiminski wrote:Woodruff wrote:hookshotwillaby wrote:The ones i've noticed having fun here have all been asked to leave at one time or another. What is that?
What "that" is...is a very strong mis-perception, in my opinion.
it is a mild misconception.
You actually believe that it's only a mild misperception to state that the ones having fun on the site are the ones that are being asked to leave? I'm surprised to hear ANYONE say that...because if there are THAT many people "not having fun here"...
heh, jesus Wood! that is your worst case of selective quoting yet!.. Did you read the first bit and lurch into repost!?
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