Dugcarr has went too far- I suggest he should be banned

[Hologram]

you didnt even sopy everything I said ...

Dictionary.com: No results found for sopy.

f*ck you I hit the s button instead of c, big fucking deal

Hey, look, a typo....

hmmmm....

Where did I see someone yelling at me for a typo earlier......

[Fireside Poet]

you didnt even sopy everything I said ...

Dictionary.com: No results found for sopy.

f*ck you I hit the s button instead of c, big fucking deal

Hey, look, a typo....

hmmmm....

Where did I see someone yelling at me for a typo earlier......

PRECISELY!

[tomtorresson]

It appears to me that subjekt and tomtorressson are the beneficiaries of dugcarr1's points.
Read this game's interesting chat log http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=324975
and if you have more time to spare...
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=323728

I was lucky enough to have Dug join a game of mine...3 person straight up. I school'd him (got lucky). He offered to play a few doubles with me. We played a few dozen over the next few weeks....and he taught me almost everything I know.

Dug is THE strongest player I have ever gone with -or- against. Period. Is he brash? yep. Crude? can be. Over the top? Wouldn't be DC otherwise. Did he cross the line? I don't know...

Subjekt and I have been playing as a team a TON over the last few months...way before this DC shit came up. I had been bugging Subjkt to add a shitload more games. He put up 20 or 25 this morning. Dug DID join a bunch...and does appear to be throwing them.

(1) I knew nothing about his intent beforehand...and stand by him. He's a great guy and great for the site. 4 months is WAY TOO LONG.

(2) Once Subjek caught on to Dug's plan, he killed (or tried to) a few of our games so that Dug wouldn't do it.

I mention all this shit to show my support for Dug...and to curb any thought that I, or Subjekt, have anything to do with these games.

[Sammy gags]

& I know the inevitable will happen where someone will accuse dugcarr1 of abusing the rules of CC (by his losing his games) & wants to ban him further, but I would like to claim that there are no rules saying that you cannot purposefully lose a game for any reason, therefore he should be safe of any further bans.
...& AndrewB owes me his premium membership

[tomtorresson]

& I know the inevitable will happen where someone will accuse dugcarr1 of abusing the rules of CC (by his losing his games) & wants to ban him further, but I would like to claim that there are no rules saying that you cannot purposefully lose a game for any reason, therefore he should be safe of any further bans.
...& AndrewB owes me his premium membership

I agree completely...The Yankees do SUCK.

[subjekt]

Thx TT....Let me say this. anyone which knows us as a team ( TT and I ) know that we start 10 games daily and take on anyone who joins....I was down to 7 games this morning as I really was just going to play them out and say screw it....TT was kind enough to help me get to General so the least I could do was to get him to Colonel....So I started a bunch of games this morning ( I think 23) and made sure TT joined them all and after that I never look until I hear the "horn" by the time I noticed Duggy was in a whack of my games .... I do not want any part of his point dumping as I dont want to support him by taking his points??!!??!! Either way I am screwed here as I cant let TT down and I am trying to support Dugcarr1... I was heckling some decent people last night which KNOWINGLY joined his point dumping games, schmoozeinc and AAfitz which I both have alot of respect for...sorry guys...Basically I just want to say that TT and I are not in the games intentionally. I try to treat most people with respect and pride myself on a strict no cheat policy.

-Sub-

[subjekt]

From: subjekt
To: tomtorresson
Posted: 29 Mar 2007 14:29
Subject: Re: What the f*ck???
He is trying to throw his points...do you mind if I drop those games....I am supporting him 100 percent.....



That is a PM I sent to TT.... WE ARE NOT CHEATING AS A TEAM OR KNOWINGLY ACCEPTED ANY OF DUGCARR1 GAMES. I guess a screen shot is more convincing but it is real, as well by the time TT got back to me it was to late.


FREE DUGCARR1

-Sub-

[hendy]

From: subjekt
To: tomtorresson
Posted: 29 Mar 2007 14:29
Subject: Re: What the f*ck???
He is trying to throw his points...do you mind if I drop those games....I am supporting him 100 percent.....



That is a PM I sent to TT.... WE ARE NOT CHEATING AS A TEAM OR KNOWINGLY ACCEPTED ANY OF DUGCARR1 GAMES. I guess a screen shot is more convincing but it is real, as well by the time TT got back to me it was to late.


FREE DUGCARR1

-Sub-

we under stand bro.

[AAFitz]

yeah i joined two as a momento...but i assumed he was going to deadbeat, not play them....in one i offered to deadbeat, and the other I told the other guy to kill him...as am I...we'll even it out, and winner takes all...if he wants me to deadbeat, I will in a heartbeat...

I didnt join them for the points. i saw them all there and since it was dugs apparent farewell, I figured two for the road wouldnt be bad. When I saw him just demolishing the other guy, I tried to drop the other. But it was too late. I did explain it to the other player, which was not easy, and he took it as well as anyone ever could...the poor guy just wanted a shot at a general and a colonel, and he ended up in a CC drama episode...Im sure they were the best 11 points he ever spent.

I played well over 200 with dug. Hes a great player, and we had a blast. Hes a funny guy, and in our games, he barely chatted with even me, except for the quick joke or complaint about the dice or more usually mine... I just loved winning them, and I could almost always guess his next move, so it made them effortless....usually...

Ive also had the opportunity to play with all the top players, including Blitz, who really is a nice guy. Ive also met(kind of met) lots of other great people, who really know how to play. This place really is a blast....at times its as crazier than anything I would ever have imagined, but it is fun.

Im not about to comment on the situation, because it just isnt fair to me or them. I like them both, and would love to see it all resolved and watch them go head to head in a nice series of games for fun without points... Some will respect that, others wont, but it is just how it is

Myself, Im just going to go back to making my moves in the games...

[hendy]

This is bull, look what the mods have done, It breaks my heart to see won of cc's alltime greats have to do this

[Hologram]

This is bull, look what the mods have done, It breaks my heart to see won of cc's alltime greats have to do this

What does he have to do? I mean sure he doesn't have pms or forum access, and fair or not that's going to be served out, but that doesn't mean he has to give up his games.

[hendy]

This is bull, look what the mods have done, It breaks my heart to see won of cc's alltime greats have to do this

What does he have to do? I mean sure he doesn't have pms or forum access, and fair or not that's going to be served out, but that doesn't mean he has to give up his games.

he has to take a stand somehow, he certainly cant do anything through pms or posting

[tahitiwahini]

This is bull, look what the mods have done, It breaks my heart to see won of cc's alltime greats have to do this

What in the world are you talking about?

No one made Dug do anything.

He hatched the scheme out of his own head.

No one made him behave as the poster child for unsportsmanlike conduct.

The only mystery is why the mods continue to let him on this site at all.

At some point the damage he has done and continues to do far outweighs any possible benefit of him continuing to be here.

What do you tell people who innocently joined one of his current games while he's on his current jihad? They're unaware of the fraud being perpetrated in his "throwing" of these "farewell" games. What a joy it must be for them to witness his disgusting display of immaturity.

Finally, having a high score should not be a get out of jail card. That kind of behavior and disrespect to the game shouldn't be tolerated in a new recruit and the fact that he is a high-ranking general makes his behavior all the more egregious.

I'm not sure what's sadder: his behavior, or the people offering excuses for it.

[schmoozeinc]

this whole thing comes down to one thing- the point system does not represent the skill of the player in any way. everyone one page one of the scoreboard got there the same way. namely start a sh*t pile of dubs and trips, get a low ranked player/s as partners and then school them in the point grab. dug pointed it out,bitched about it and proved he was right by actually doing it.

i dont know dug but i tend to think that he could give two f*cks about the points its the quest to be the best player that he persues. by dumping his points and doing it again only reinforces his arguement that the point system needs to go or he is indeed the best player.

im in 5or6 of his point dumping games now with the intention of wiping out the other players and then going deadbeat inorder to save him the points but looks as if he may deadbeat in them before i get the chance.

without dugcarr1 here at cc it loses its wild side and is just another pg13 site full of a bunch of sheep brown nosing the mods.

* i need to give props to wacicha tho he takes all comers and has a pretty good win/lose rate.

[Hologram]

This is bull, look what the mods have done, It breaks my heart to see won of cc's alltime greats have to do this

What does he have to do? I mean sure he doesn't have pms or forum access, and fair or not that's going to be served out, but that doesn't mean he has to give up his games.

he has to take a stand somehow, he certainly cant do anything through pms or posting

He doesn't have to. All I'm saying is dug doesn't command a whole lot of respect among the majority of CCers, and every time he speaks it usually just digs him deeper and deeper. My suggestion is he just licks his wounds and moves on. Four months really isn't that long.

[Beastly]

It is sad that dugcarr1 felt he had to cheat to gain points...

It is sad that dugcarr1 got busted..

Its even sadder that Elmo and that other wierdo are crying over a member of CC getting a 4 month boot of the forums..

WAAAAAAAAA

too funny, cry elmo cry..

your giving us all a huge laugh at your stupidity.

NO one is laughing at dug, most just feel sorry for poor dumb dug.

But HENDY and that other NOOB we are just laughing at you.

YOU remind me of those women that shaved there heads and cried when Charles Manson was being tried.

lol

I am so glad Hendy participates, I am sure dug is paying him something.

your doing a great job of keeping us laughing hendy

keep it up!!!

[tahitiwahini]

im in 5or6 of his point dumping games now with the intention of wiping out the other players and then going deadbeat inorder to save him the points but looks as if he may deadbeat in them before i get the chance.

Sounds like a great plan, mate. Are you going to announce this in game chat or are secret alliances par for the course in a jihad?

And then you're going to deadbeat. Well isn't that special. What an honorable thing to do! How you must respect the game and your fellow players.

It's a possibility (however remote) that some people don't read the fora and joined the games innocently expecting that everyone was playing to win. Silly people. Well aren't they in for a surprise.

Do you have any concern for any innocent players who happen to be in any of "his point dumping games?" Somehow I don't think you're going to lose a lot of sleep over that.

Welcome to my ignore-list.

These "point dumping games" are a travesty, at least several orders of magnitude worse than the current point scoring system.

His contempt for the players at CC is apparently boundless. Dug seems hell-bent on doing as much damage to Conquer Club, the game, and his fellow players as he possibly can in the time he has remaining.

If the moderators are wise they will make that period as mercifully short as possible.

[CreepyUncleAndy]

I call BULLSHIT on Dugcar! He is a fracking villain who cancels games to maintain his ill-gotten ranking! (BTW, Dugcar, well-played -- nowhere is this stated as being against the rules!) Regardless, I commence....

schmoozieinc and I (CreepyUncleAndy) were in a three-player standard escalating Classic map game with Dugcar as of 2007-03-30 03:16:02 (game # 323879)

I will reply to this thread with a screenshot of the game to which I refer (which I have not closed or updated the window for) in the morning when I am alert & rested enough to located & install an acceptable screenshot capture program to show the world this game....



Dugcar -- profile link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profil ... ile&u=2066
schmoozieinc -- profile link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profil ... ile&u=9563
CreepyUncleAndy -- profile link: http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/profil ... le&u=32299

-- link follows:

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=323879

Please note that the above link now points nowhere now because Dugcar canceled this game, which he started.


GAME LOG:

2007-03-29 03:12:48 - Game has been initialized
2007-03-29 03:13:01 - CreepyUncleAndy receives 4 armies for 14 territories
2007-03-29 03:13:26 - CreepyUncleAndy deployed 4 armies on Brazil
2007-03-29 03:13:36 - CreepyUncleAndy attacked Argentina from Brazil and conquered it from schmoozeinc
2007-03-29 03:13:53 - CreepyUncleAndy attacked Peru from Brazil and conquered it from schmoozeinc
2007-03-29 03:14:37 - CreepyUncleAndy fortified South Africa with 2 armies from Brazil
2007-03-29 03:14:37 - CreepyUncleAndy gets a card
2007-03-29 03:15:57 - schmoozeinc receives 4 armies for 12 territories
2007-03-29 03:16:01 - schmoozeinc deployed 4 armies on Western Australia
2007-03-29 03:16:13 - schmoozeinc attacked Eastern Australia from Western Australia and conquered it from CreepyUncleAndy
2007-03-29 03:16:47 - schmoozeinc fortified Siam with 2 armies from Indonesia
2007-03-29 03:16:47 - schmoozeinc gets a card
2007-03-30 03:12:48 - dugcarr1 missed a turn
2007-03-30 03:12:48 - Incrementing game to round 2
2007-03-30 03:13:06 - CreepyUncleAndy receives 2 armies for holding South America
2007-03-30 03:13:06 - CreepyUncleAndy receives 5 armies for 15 territories
2007-03-30 03:13:26 - CreepyUncleAndy deployed 2 armies on Venezuela
2007-03-30 03:13:42 - CreepyUncleAndy deployed 5 armies on South Africa
2007-03-30 03:13:58 - CreepyUncleAndy attacked East Africa from South Africa and conquered it from schmoozeinc
2007-03-30 03:14:18 - CreepyUncleAndy attacked Madagascar from East Africa and conquered it from dugcarr1
2007-03-30 03:14:43 - CreepyUncleAndy attacked Egypt from East Africa and conquered it from dugcarr1
2007-03-30 03:15:25 - CreepyUncleAndy attacked Central America from Venezuela and conquered it from schmoozeinc
2007-03-30 03:16:02 - CreepyUncleAndy fortified Egypt with 2 armies from Cong
2007-03-30 03:16:02 - CreepyUncleAndy gets a card

GAME CHAT:

2007-03-29 03:16:25 - subjekt: Schmooze why be a pussy
2007-03-29 03:16:59 - subjekt: nothing agaisnt you man but you know its being thrown right?
2007-03-29 03:20:05 - CreepyUncleAndy: I've heard both of these guys accused of being the same multiplayer, or perhaps they're just a good team. If so, I take it for granted they are allied against me, and coordinating their moves.

[subjekt]

you are clueless CreepyUncleAndy

[tahitiwahini]

If you're on Windows, you can just press the Print Screen (PrtScn) button which will capture the screen, go to a graphics editor (MS Paint) and paste it in (Ctrl-V), save as a JPEG, copy it to an image hosting site (http://www.imageshack.com) and provide the URL link from image shack in your post.

Good luck.

[Beastly]

wow i've always wanted to know how to do that...

thanks!!

[Hologram]

If you're on Windows, you can just press the Print Screen (PrtScn) button which will capture the screen, go to a graphics editor (MS Paint) and paste it in (Ctrl-V), save as a JPEG, copy it to an image hosting site (http://www.imageshack.com) and provide the URL link from image shack in your post.

Good luck.

If you're a mac, command+shift+3. Then basically the same thing.

[Beastly]

you are clueless CreepyUncleAndy

Shhhhhhh...

nobody wants to read your post anymore, especially when you are a follower of Hendy.

[tahitiwahini]

If you're on Windows, you can just press the Print Screen (PrtScn) button which will capture the screen, go to a graphics editor (MS Paint) and paste it in (Ctrl-V), save as a JPEG, copy it to an image hosting site (http://www.imageshack.com) and provide the URL link from image shack in your post.

Good luck.

If you're a mac, command+shift+3. Then basically the same thing.

I thought Mac's were supposed to be more intuitive.

[Robinette]

everyone one on page one of the scoreboard got there the same way. namely start a sh*t pile of dubs and trips, get a low ranked player/s as partners and then school them in the point grab. dug pointed it out,bitched about it and proved he was right by actually doing it.

Get your facts straight. Not everyone on page 1 got there the way dug did.