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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby a.sub on Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:28 am

Army of GOD wrote:
ws1 wrote:ru fricking kidding? Oh lets make the rating system more even so noones feelings get hurt. (sarcasam intendeded) Go back to playground pussesses


Do you talk to people from 2 years in the past often or is this just a one time deal?

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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby ws1 on Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:18 pm

I cant belive this , I give my opion and some moron asks me about 2 yrs ago and I have no idea what this retards talking about,And then I get some kinda crappo babble with some friggin words in it I dont understand,and then git this, they threatn me with (shudder) banishment from the "FORA" who the hell is this "MeDo" guy that sent me this pm anyway. and since when is it so scary to you guys(whoever you are) that I cant say what I want to.What everyone is supposed to be happy with every little dumbass thing you come up with. like I said to this DOMe guy in my reply to his pm F***O**. lol
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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:52 pm

ws1 wrote:I cant belive this , I give my opion and some moron asks me about 2 yrs ago and I have no idea what this retards talking about,And then I get some kinda crappo babble with some friggin words in it I dont understand,and then git this, they threatn me with (shudder) banishment from the "FORA" who the hell is this "MeDo" guy that sent me this pm anyway. and since when is it so scary to you guys(whoever you are) that I cant say what I want to.What everyone is supposed to be happy with every little dumbass thing you come up with. like I said to this DOMe guy in my reply to his pm F***O**. lol


you're selling what now?
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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby a.sub on Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:41 pm

ws1 wrote:I cant belive this , I give my opion and some moron asks me about 2 yrs ago and I have no idea what this retards talking about,And then I get some kinda crappo babble with some friggin words in it I dont understand,and then git this, they threatn me with (shudder) banishment from the "FORA" who the hell is this "MeDo" guy that sent me this pm anyway. and since when is it so scary to you guys(whoever you are) that I cant say what I want to.What everyone is supposed to be happy with every little dumbass thing you come up with. like I said to this DOMe guy in my reply to his pm F***O**. lol

im quite sorry about ur mental issues
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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby n00blet on Sat Feb 20, 2010 12:04 am

a.sub wrote:
ws1 wrote:I cant belive this , I give my opion and some moron asks me about 2 yrs ago and I have no idea what this retards talking about,And then I get some kinda crappo babble with some friggin words in it I dont understand,and then git this, they threatn me with (shudder) banishment from the "FORA" who the hell is this "MeDo" guy that sent me this pm anyway. and since when is it so scary to you guys(whoever you are) that I cant say what I want to.What everyone is supposed to be happy with every little dumbass thing you come up with. like I said to this DOMe guy in my reply to his pm F***O**. lol

im quite sorry about ur mental issues
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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby alster on Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:07 pm

lackattack wrote:=============================================

UPDATE

I'm making progress on these changes and I'm probably going to be able to throw in the "change color of star for players needing re-rating" suggestion.

I'm getting to the part about making ratings relative to each rater's "average rating left" and I'm having second thoughts. It won't fully solve the problem - some people will still typically leave 5's and others will still typically leave 3's and get complaints about it. Also the solution is quite hard to explain and understand.

I'm looking at other suggestions brought up:

* 4 stars (1-Very Bad, 2-Bad, 3-Good, 4-Very Good) with no "average", so people could typically leave 3 with less controversy.
* 3 stars (1-Bad, 2-Good, 3-Very Good) so that "average" would be more positive sounding as "Good".
* 4 stars with a cap on how often you can rate 1's or 4's. For example, only one "extreme" rating per game to force ratings to be more moderate and therefore (hopefully) accurate.

What do you guys think? I need some more feedback!

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After two weeks of experience with the new ratings system and a lot of important input from Conquer Club members like you, it's pretty clear that it could use some fixing.

So here is a 4-point plan to address the major problems with ratings, based on ideas brought up in this forum:

Problem: We want to know the reasons behind the stars, but written comments lead to too many complaints.
Solution: Introduce descriptive tags that you can attach to ratings, to explain them. >> discussion topic <<

Problem: There is too much inconsistency - some people follow our scale and leave 3 for an average player, others typically leave 5.
Solution: Display average rating left (ARL) on each rating and factor it into your overall rating score. >> discussion topic <<

Problem: We have few options when left "unfair" ratings.
Solution: Allow written responses to ratings. >> discussion topic <<

Problem: We want to rate gameplay behaviour that affects the game experience for others, but doesn't fall under "Fair Play".
Solution: Introduce an attribute for Gameplay (which would include teamwork). >> discussion topic <<

None of this is set in stone and we need you input! Please comment on the individual solutions in their respective topics and comment on our overall approach here.

Thanks for helping us make a better Conquer Club!

EDIT: Due to popular demand I've added a 5th point to the plan...

Problem: Attendance should be automated, not a rating!
Solution: Add attendance stat to player profile, remove it from ratings. >> discussion topic <<


Suggestion: Just dump the rating systems (old/new one) down the Hudson river. Few people will miss and, and those who do, well, they won't loose much sleep over it. (And seriously people, how many out there actually stay away from a public game due to a player having a less than perfect rating?) And your mods can just deal with more important stuff than these rating abuse C&A-threads.
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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby natty dread on Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:08 pm

Make the rating scale from -2 to +2, so that very bad would be -2, bad would be -1, and average would be 0... And good is +1 and very good is +2. This way leaving no rating at all would effectively be the same as leaving an "average" rating. This would probably help very much with the skewed ratings: people would only give ratings when they were really deserved. If someone's play isn't exceptionally good or bad, you can just leave no rating at all, and it's effectively the same as leaving an "average" rating, thus it's also less work for the players giving ratings.
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Re: Ratings Reloaded - Community Consultation - UPDATED

Postby denominator on Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:15 pm

natty_dread wrote:Make the rating scale from -2 to +2, so that very bad would be -2, bad would be -1, and average would be 0... And good is +1 and very good is +2. This way leaving no rating at all would effectively be the same as leaving an "average" rating. This would probably help very much with the skewed ratings: people would only give ratings when they were really deserved. If someone's play isn't exceptionally good or bad, you can just leave no rating at all, and it's effectively the same as leaving an "average" rating, thus it's also less work for the players giving ratings.


This is what we needed from the beginning. As it stands right now, a rating of 3 is considered poor, and most people rate either 5s or 1s. If we had a neutral setting (0), then it would balance the ratings much better.
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