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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby freeroll84 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:06 am

ill be up on that list shortly ;)
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby DiM on Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:08 pm

this list is supposed to give credit to those that play mostly 6-8p singles but what happens if a guy plays 8p games and has a 50% win? that would be f*cking brilliant and yet he would not be on that list, despite being better than all those that are on the list right now ;)
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Scott-Land on Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:46 pm

DiM wrote:this list is supposed to give credit to those that play mostly 6-8p singles but what happens if a guy plays 8p games and has a 50% win? that would be f*cking brilliant and yet he would not be on that list, despite being better than all those that are on the list right now ;)



You must be speaking of the one and only Poo-Maker.......
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Ray Rider on Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:53 pm

Itrade wrote:You forget that those are actually excellent (Or at least pretty good) win rates if you play quadruples, four-player singles, five-player singles, six-player singles, seven-player singles, and eight-player singles.

Exactly.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Mr_Adams on Tue Jul 08, 2008 6:58 pm

if your winning 32% of 5 6 7 or 8 player games, your kicking ass.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby frogger4 on Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:09 pm

hey, I want to congratulate =D> all those "losers" on page one. I am on page 71. Obviously they are not losers to get that far, regardless of their win percent. Really, that number is meaningless. You should all be calling me a loser [-X
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby wcaclimbing on Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:00 am

I used to be on page 1, had a 29% win rate.
And I've got a screenshot to prove it.
Would that count to get on the list? score was at 2944 in the screenshot.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby waynemgough on Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:58 am

BENJIKAT IS DEAD wrote:
FabledIntegral wrote:1. Hardly misguided - I said it was a generalization. And I can show you numerous results of high rankers where it's accurate.
2. I looked at Clive's games and about 50% of them are 1v1's vs Cooks or new recruits. You simply proved my point. Even if it's only 40%, the point still remains. They are all cooks/new recruits/low ranks.


Generalisations are dangerous and annoy me immensely, as everyone gets tarnished with the same brush.

I guess I am well known for being fairly good at sequential Waterloo foggy 1v1s, but it is assumed that I am beating up new recruits most of the time to get my 87% win rate.

I have always know this to be unfair, so I thought I'd actually count them up... (the following assumes that since the games have finished as many players have gone up as have gone down - not sure how good that assumption is but I have to go with it)

I have finished 446 sequential foggy 1v1 Waterloo games; only 66 (15%) have been against players with scores of below 1100 (and with a single exception, all have joined public games second, so I haven't targeted them specifically); on the other hand 116 (26%) have been against players who currently have a score of 2000 or more (a fair few of these are tournament games or ones where I've joined second - I hunt the high ranks not the low ones - I want a challenge not just free points!), the remaining 264 games are against players who currently have scores between 1100 and 2000, many of whom have 70%+ win rates on Waterloo themselves.

Because I don't want to hide it, and someone will find them anyway, I do have a "darker" side too (although I've grown out of it now): I tried my hand at freestyle 1v1 joining second al la MOBA, JR, torcav... and my results show how hard it is to gain points from these games - I won 189 from 207(91%) and yet only have a net score of +88 from those games, one extra loss to a cook and it would be zero.

So I have got my rank from the Waterloo games mainly... and not from new recruits per se.

Rereading your points above, I've just realised that they are very ambiguous and I may just be agreeing with you... whatever...




how many of these players between 1100/2000 were experienced waterloo map players at the time of you beating them?

i may be a brigadier, but playing waterloo map. i'd be the equivalent of a cook.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:07 pm

DiM wrote:this list is supposed to give credit to those that play mostly 6-8p singles but what happens if a guy plays 8p games and has a 50% win? that would be f*cking brilliant and yet he would not be on that list, despite being better than all those that are on the list right now ;)



very good point, perhaps she could do a minimum requirement of games like 100 would perhaps resolve this issue and in the 1st 5 and top 5 list, mine is 40% and under to give credit to those awesome singles players that win over 30%, cause there is a half dozen or dozen or so that do win between 31 and 40% and play tons of singles.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Scott-Land on Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:18 pm

Blitzaholic wrote:
DiM wrote:this list is supposed to give credit to those that play mostly 6-8p singles but what happens if a guy plays 8p games and has a 50% win? that would be f*cking brilliant and yet he would not be on that list, despite being better than all those that are on the list right now ;)



very good point, perhaps she could do a minimum requirement of games like 100 would perhaps resolve this issue and in the 1st 5 and top 5 list, mine is 40% and under to give credit to those awesome singles players that win over 30%, cause there is a half dozen or dozen or so that do win between 21 and 40% and play tons of singles.



Even earlier in this thread and some others, a lot of players complained that rank wasn't a good indicator of how good a player is. Now it's gauged on win %. Which is it DIM, if you have a high percentage you're better? I don't think so. Where does this thread state nor does the TOP5 Under 40 state anything about how good someone is based on their win percentage. It's just a criteria that Robin set at 33 and Blitz set at 40, to distinguish Single's players from Team players- a fair one if you ask me.

Poo-Maker is probably the best all around single's player (seq and free) and he's not on the list. TBH- a single's player shouldn't want to be on that list because if he does have 50%+, he doesn't need a list to be known.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Blitzaholic on Fri Jul 11, 2008 2:45 pm

i did mean 31% to 40% not 21% oops
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby KoE_Sirius on Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:55 pm

BeakerWMA wrote:Looks at my rank and at yours...I do believe that says it all mate. Play with better competition :)

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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:24 pm

I am one of the top losers....


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Updated after another singles win :D
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Thomas.Paine on Fri Aug 08, 2008 3:49 pm

realmss wrote:Jeeze, those guys really need to start playing stacked triples games.


yeah, seriously, or 1v1 games with recruits.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Destroyer Sol on Sun Aug 17, 2008 12:34 pm

I will win, I won over 60% of my games up to no.300. Look at me now ha ha ha
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Craig Xiao on Sun Aug 17, 2008 2:44 pm

Yes thats right, non-premium members have just as much right to play games as idiots who pay. lack 1 : to be deficient or missing
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Georgerx7di on Sun Aug 17, 2008 3:49 pm

Come on robin, you know everyone on that list plays most 6 player games. Glad I didn't make the list though, lol.

Furthermore you have won 24% of your 6 player classic std, seq, esc games. I point this out because this is the board game setting. 24% with 6 good players is very nice.
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Scott-Land on Sun Aug 17, 2008 10:13 pm

You've been away too long- George ;)
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby kwanton on Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:57 pm

Sooo close to being on that list.....
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Bruceswar on Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:13 pm

kwanton wrote:Sooo close to being on that list.....



To make the first page you need 2416 at least, as of my last check. With you are 2000+ you still need about 400 points to make it. I am surely a top loser... I have lost sooo many games... LOL
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Robinette on Sat Nov 29, 2008 3:32 pm

Hadn't looked at this in quite some time...

And there are some new top losers to point out...

11 Hesoos 3770 1084 327 (30%) - don't know you
23 ballenus 3506 792 234 (30%) - don't know you
25 maniacmath17 3477 1335 433 (32%) - statistically speaking, a really nice guy 8-)
35 joecoolfrog 3283 431 118 (27%) - a paranoid limey jerk :evil:
37 Beadle 3267 264 88 (33%) - don't know you
66 JBoy 3048 848 213 (25%) Brigadier Brigadier - the jury is still deliberating
83 nesterdude 2921 3632 1164 (32%) - has a bigger gun than most =P~
92 steve066 2868 1304 322 (25%) - great player, and a smooth flirt :)
103 austex 2807 790 245 (31%) - nice guy, the quiet handsome type 8-)
108 milwood 2779 199 63 (32%) - don't know you
121 jordanlover 2744 1742 568 (33%) - don't know you
125 Soldier4Christ 2735 1345 414 (31%) - don't know you
152 Silvex 2687 569 169 (30%) - don't know you
166 DAZMCFC 2644 1959 621 (32%) - don't know you
173 cisco2001 2628 2197 638 (29%) - don't know you
179 Stbtgal 2618 272 83 (31%) - don't know you
181 Coach Courbis 2616 156 47 (30%) - don't know you
191 Iccinot Nabrus 2585 676 166 (25%) - don't know you
199 Serpentor 2578 500 128 (26%) - don't know you
205 RL_Orange 2569 3828 1051 (27%) - great player, and a great lover ;)
211 4red 2558 2334 719 (31%) - don't know you
219 khushhal 2547 198 66 (33%) - don't know you
224 mcnorm 2544 125 36 (29%) - don't know you
227 Anomander 2540 150 41 (27%) - don't know you
240 BeepBeepImaJeep 2518 295 83 (28%) - don't know you
243 brandoncfi 2515 2848 904 (32%) - don't know you
245 hiddeous man 2508 805 258 (32%) - don't know you

I'm no longer a top loser myself :cry:
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby ManBungalow on Sat Nov 29, 2008 5:13 pm

Robinette wrote:I'm no longer a top loser myself :cry:

:cry: :cry: How did that happen ?
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby JBoy on Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:47 pm

Robinette wrote:66 JBoy 3048 848 213 (25%) Brigadier Brigadier - the jury is still deliberating
hey, my win% is 25.11792, get it straight !! :lol: :lol: and when does the jury come back ?? :?: :?:
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Robinette on Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:02 pm

JBoy wrote:
Robinette wrote:66 JBoy 3048 848 213 (25%) Brigadier Brigadier - the jury is still deliberating
hey, my win% is 25.11792, get it straight !! :lol: :lol: and when does the jury come back ?? :?: :?:


we haven't played enough for me to know yet what you are made of...
you're obviously a prodigious loser, which i find very attractive...
but your personality is still a mystery to me... ;)

Shall we play another game?
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Re: The Top LOSERS in CC

Postby Bruceswar on Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:40 pm

woohoo for top losers! I am on the list for sure. LOL
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