hahaha3hahaha wrote:AAFitz wrote:hahaha3hahaha wrote:It is evident both you (AAfitz) and medefe agree with prostitution and/or homosexuality. I simply raised the point that neo-Nazis fought against things like these because I know a lot of people would agree with me that it can be seen as a good cause, if dealt with appropropriately (did I ever say gay-bashing is the right way? NO). This was a fraction of my thread anyway, so do not dare put words in my mouth and do not fabricate things, EVER. No matter how much status you think you have. I was merely exploring the definition of what a swastika represents. If you can quote me anywhere in that thread saying that I agreed with any of it, please place the extracts here. The whole point of my thread was to find out why swastikas were such forbidden things in CC, seeing that I have no personal issue with them. It seems that you are LOOKING for people to accuse of trolling.
All you have done is taken a sentence out of my thread, taken it out of context, and accused me of a being homophobe and a Nazi. YOU both are more so a trolls than I.
You posted that you think a fight for prostitution and homosexuality was a good fight. You also posted that some use the swastika as a symbol of racism. This is not out of context, not trolling, but a simple fact, and no one is accusing you of trolling. Only explaining why you received your ban for trolling.
You keep trying to redefine what you wrote, but since its right there, it simply isnt going to work. Calling a fight against homosexuals a good fight, is homophobia by definition. The mere suggestion that there is something to fight is homophobia in itself. This is hardly out of context, and is so obviously trolling.
It is you taking sentences out of context...no one called you a homophobe. We only posted that you made homophobic comments. Since its more than obvious you were trolling, it would silly to make any actual character judgments other than that you were comfortable making such statements...and now, defending such actions to boot.
Stop being such an analytical prick and stop reading in between he lines! You're replacing the word 'cause' with 'fight', to make it sound barbaric. Secondly, yes, I admit, I said some who identify themselves with swastikas are still doing cruel, wicked things, but I simply proposed that we see the other side of it, the people who stand up for worthy causes, maybe, in my opinion, prostitution and homosexuality, but not limited to that! All forms of (let me quote myself) political, social and racial injustices. This includes things such as government corruption and power abuse and things like that. As I stated earlier, you're taking a few words and making out as if that was my whole thread.
Stop reading between the lines? Stop being analytical? You posted a thread about nazis, the swastika, prostitution and homosexuals, and expect it not to be analyzed? Really? I think that almost proves you were trolling right there.
I'm sorry you posted what you did, and the words you chose mean what they mean, but that's what you posted, why it was trolling, and why you were unable to post for however long.
As far as using the word fight... that is the word you used:
hahaha3hahaha wrote:Maybe there are still groups existing today that carry on that line, but what about the ones that fight against things like prostitution and homosexuality- I think those are very fair causes.
Im not replacing anything. Im simply quoting what you wrote...again, the link is at the top of the page...perhaps you need to read it again...It is interesting to see you call the phrase barbaric however. There you have my complete agreement.
You use an example of groups that fight against homosexuality and prostitution as a contrast to the groups that simply use the swastika for hatred of jews, and that is why it is important to your post. Its a concrete example, and is not being taken out of context in any way shape or form. The reason that line is mentioned and quoted, is because I firmly believe it is what got you busted, and why you deserve the ban for trolling. Without it, I might actually have been fooled that your goal was an intellectual discussion of the many uses of the swastika, but it was that line that showed it was just a trolling thread, designed to elicit offense by many.
What I am saddened by, is that you cant seem to understand that people will fight such statements without being in those groups. You've posted that you assume I'm jewish, homosexual, and now agree with prostitution. Its just a damn shame that you would make such an assumption so quickly, and not realize that one does not need to be in a group to defend it, or more importantly, fight against bigoted statements about said groups....granted, given that this got started with you trolling, and I am quite certain that it is just a continuation of said trolling... I'm not too concerned. Either way, as mentioned before, no one truly cares what you think anyways. If you do actually feel that way, and aren't just trolling, than once again, thats your problem.
If, however, you are apologizing for including that line, and agree it was a bad decision, and had no place on this forum, than I would say you have learned your lesson, and would be impressed with your ability to actually take responsibility for your actions. Personally, I think you were lucky not to have received the vacation for violating the CC anti-bigotry rules, which after quoting your line about a "fight against homosexuality as a very fair cause" certainly could have been warranted.
for a perfectly warranted ban. It was not only trolling, but was trolling with homophobic, and racist undertones to say the least. The intent was perfectly obvious for anyone that read it.
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