A Common-Sense PLEA against Clickmap use

[Bruceswar]

well of course it will be won by someone of that rank or higher, the game settings favour the experienced in that field, where a certain tactic is key to winning the game.
sequential games are won by anyone because the game gives everyone a fair shot.

Not to veer off topic but I cannot agree there. If someone goes for a kill in SEQ and misses by 1 army the next player in line gets to mop up and run the table. Where was your chance?

Their chance was when they tried to kill someone and missed with 1 army... your chance was before that - but you didn't take it.

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Moreover, being properly deployed and properly blocking will put one in the best position to take advantage of hangings. Also, playing in games with higher ranks really diminishes the amount of hangings.

To me, the very top of the scoreboard represents the best freestyle players or those who know how take advantage of the system best (almost always involving freestyle) whether it be 1v1 against noobs (the torcav strategy) or playing game settings that only attract noobs (the klobber/king herpes strategy).

Clearly then, the top of the scoreboard is not truly indicative of the best players, and certainly not the best traditional risk style players.

Sometimes being at the wrong place in line can kill you even in 2500+ games. I am sure you know this very well. Dice can hang someone who dropped perfectly. you leave a 25 vs 9 for the end and miss on dice who is to blame? You or the dice? Well that person would have just left an open kill for the next in line and a possible double cash. Once they get an army lead that big it is all bit over. Assuming the cashes are 50+. People do get hung, and sometimes you play the best game you can and still have no shot at all. This is why some people prefer freestyle. I happen to like both, but things can and will happen in both!

[Jeff Hardy]

i love the way the OP uses clickable maps too now

[Lhuth]

Seems most people defending CM are the ones using it. It's a no-brainer really. Everyone is meant to be on a level playing field. CM stops that, so in my opinion shouldn't be allowed.

[codeblue1018]

Seems most people defending CM are the ones using it. It's a no-brainer really. Everyone is meant to be on a level playing field. CM stops that, so in my opinion shouldn't be allowed.

Amen brother. Designed for legalized cheating. Absolutely absurd. Only gives people "help" to win games that they surely wouldn't win otherwise!

[Lindax]

I hardly ever play freestyle, but use cm because it makes things easier. And when I do play freestyle, I'm still way too slow, eh scott

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[Evil Semp]

Seems most people defending CM are the ones using it. It's a no-brainer really. Everyone is meant to be on a level playing field. CM stops that, so in my opinion shouldn't be allowed.

Isn't the opposite also true. Most people complaining about it don't use it?

I look at it like the arms race, it's just a better weapon. Either get a better weapon yourself or don't it's your choice.

[Ditocoaf]

Since for some godforsaken reason this thread was resurrected (by the usual crowd of people who haven't read through to figure out why it died in the first place,) I hereby re-present the following counterargument:

In every other game but Freestlye, clickable maps gives no advantage to the user. In a normal, sensible Sequential game, clickable maps simply makes it more convenient, and less annoying, to control the game. I love having this option, and it gives me no unfair advantage. You wish to ban this because it gives someone an unfair advantage in Freestlye. You forget that a lot of things give someone an unfair advantage in Freestyle: Better internet speed effects things a lot; unlimited free time is another huge advantage. The game type itself is horribly flawed. So why should we remove something that is nice, and harmless, in other game styles, just to fix PART of a problem with a flawed game style?. I don't play freestyle anymore--clickable maps isn't cheating for me--so don't tell me that I'm not allowed to use this.

[Ramned]

The site administrator told me, yes, he understands my argument, but it is impossible to get rid of clickmaps as they are a script. He also said it is a priority to integrate it into the site.

Doesn't mean you should use them against unexpecting people...

[Evil Semp]

Doesn't mean you should use them against unexpecting people...

That is the same as saying you shouldn't use a good strategy if it catches someone off guard.

Come on people this is a war game, no advantage is an unfair advantage. After all we are trying to kill each other here.

[AAFitz]

I like the things, they sure as hell make the regular games easier, and I enjoy playing against someone faster, and trying to keep up. In freestyle, someone will always have an advantage to some degree...more time to watch, faster computer, faster connection...thats competition. Either upgrade and compete, or just have fun playing something else. Id say my most fun games in here are the speed games 1v1 against some of the fastest players... my win rate is mediocre, but my heart rate isnt

Perhaps there should just be a non click-map option, but really, clicking on the territories makes a hell of a lot of sense compared to scrolling down...except that my knowledge of geography is no longer improving, since the name of the country is no longer important.

Its a great way to play the game. If some dont like that those at the top pretty much specialize in them, well...get better and kil them, or dont worry about the score at all, and have fun.

Those who havent tried it are missing out. Just in my regular games they save much aggravation and time. Id say my most fun games in here are the speed games 1v1 against some of the fastest players... my win rate may be mediocre, but my heart rate certainly isnt.

ps. I just lost a game to rammed himself a few minutes ago. I knew I prob would when i joined, but I enjoyed trying to get him. his 67 was able to kill a 5 a 4 and my 67 with 25 left over...lol... i wont lose any sleep over it...it was fun while it lasted

[reggie_mac]

Just so everyone knows, CM CANNOT BE BANNED. Its opensource , its made by someone in the community thanks yetti_c for the community, And why shouldn't i be able to use the Free features the come on the standard browser with my choice of operating system.

You cannot bring physical constraints into a digital world.

[yeti_c]

Why has this penguin got Boobs?

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[Jeff Hardy]

Seems most people defending CM are the ones using it. It's a no-brainer really. Everyone is meant to be on a level playing field. CM stops that, so in my opinion shouldn't be allowed.

Amen brother. Designed for legalized cheating. Absolutely absurd. Only gives people "help" to win games that they surely wouldn't win otherwise!

what is stopping you guys getting them?

[reggie_mac]

Why has this penguin got Boobs?

C.

Because he is a fat Twinky eating linux user

[Jeff Hardy]

I hardly ever play freestyle, but use cm because it makes things easier. And when I do play freestyle, I'm still way too slow, eh scott
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everyone is too slow for scott